klaeyz
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Post by klaeyz on Aug 18, 2017 17:25:56 GMT -5
for those of us who have spent a lot of time earning these weapons/bots/gold, these constant huge sales on items are very frustrating. I get that Pixonic needs to make money, but it's very upsetting. What's the incentive now? The bundles are even more upsetting, because people can spend a little bit of cash and get a great bot, weapons, and tons of gold or silver along with it. Not cool.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Aug 18, 2017 17:38:20 GMT -5
It's free to play, The developers still need to make money. Nobody is forcing you to pay, but it's a handy shortcut if you have the means.
Edit: I just want to touch on the "fair " thing. Were other players offered things you weren't ? I'm going to guess not. So what exactly is unfair about this ?
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Post by Kanshou on Aug 18, 2017 19:01:02 GMT -5
It's free to play, The developers still need to make money. Nobody is forcing you to pay, but it's a handy shortcut if you have the means. Edit: I just want to touch on the "fair " thing. Were other players offered things you weren't ? I'm going to guess not. So what exactly is unfair about this ? He is complaining about the speed in which you can aquire the bots and weapons as compared to a freemium player. I don't see it as a problem. It's all Rock Paper Scissors anyway.
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sidebandit
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Post by sidebandit on Aug 18, 2017 20:18:36 GMT -5
This game is free to pay but is reliant on some of the people playing spending real cash.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Aug 18, 2017 20:54:35 GMT -5
It's free to play, The developers still need to make money. Nobody is forcing you to pay, but it's a handy shortcut if you have the means. Edit: I just want to touch on the "fair " thing. Were other players offered things you weren't ? I'm going to guess not. So what exactly is unfair about this ? He is complaining about the speed in which you can aquire the bots and weapons as compared to a freemium player. I don't see it as a problem. It's all Rock Paper Scissors anyway. My argument stands. As I said, there is nothing unfair about it as we all receive the same opportunity to speed up the process. If players choose not to pay, they don't have to. So his opinion is that players who don't contribute financially to supporting the game should be able to have all of the same benefits as someone who spends money on the game? Now how is THAT fair ?
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Post by Dredd77 on Aug 18, 2017 21:00:25 GMT -5
I'm just happy that in Kentucky, it's accepted behavior to get drunk on moonshine and have intercourse with my pet goat while wearing a Sombrero and listening to the Back Street Boys. Arrrrrrrriba!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 21:12:12 GMT -5
for those of us who have spent a lot of time earning these weapons/bots/gold, these constant huge sales on items are very frustrating. I get that Pixonic needs to make money, but it's very upsetting. What's the incentive now? The bundles are even more upsetting, because people can spend a little bit of cash and get a great bot, weapons, and tons of gold or silver along with it. Not cool. This game has actually very few 'bundles' and sales compared to other games. You don't like that bundle, you don't have to pay. Nearly everything that Pixonic sells in their bundles can be bought with in-game-currency which can usually be earnt.
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 18, 2017 21:34:15 GMT -5
I think what the op is trying to say, that when we started to play the game, we did not have these options to buy, weapons that required certain lvl of XP and workshop points. You simply could not get these until you reached certain XP lvl's. Now you can buy them with cash.
I think that is the message.... you could not buy Lance until you have 5k gold and XP lvl, now you can buy it for cash for some $80AUD of something
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Post by contrey on Aug 18, 2017 21:36:04 GMT -5
i dont think you understood what i'm saying
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Post by contrey on Aug 18, 2017 21:40:28 GMT -5
acdcfan is correct. lance is an extreme example bc $80 is still a lot, but so many of these sales are like 25%-40% off. it sucks that i spent all that time saving up for certain things and now theyre dirt cheap for cash. aphids for instance, 2 for $7.99. i remember having to make a big decision buting my aphids with gold. now gold and weapons are sold for pennies in these sales. plus, EVERYONE has all the bots weapons now it seems like... bc its so easy to just click for a relatively cheap price.
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 18, 2017 21:44:39 GMT -5
i dont think you understood what i'm saying who me? I was clarifying the post, not a reply to anyone in particular
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 18, 2017 22:20:43 GMT -5
Let me put a slightly different spin on it -- those special offer purchases still need to be leveled up to be any kind of effective. If you spent the time and effort to build up gold, for example, before a discounted offer for that same bot came up, you've had all that time to level it up and it's weapons -- you're ahead of the game. My opinion, people put a lot of emphasis on acquiring slick bots and weapons, but the real value of them only comes when they're well-leveled. I've got a shelf full of gear I won in the last event that's unusable until I spend many weeks upgrading it.
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Aug 18, 2017 22:47:53 GMT -5
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 19, 2017 0:04:51 GMT -5
I think Pixonic values WSP weapons over Gold weapons. No other reason I can see for the major difference in pricing.
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 19, 2017 2:06:30 GMT -5
Let me put a slightly different spin on it -- those special offer purchases still need to be leveled up to be any kind of effective. If you spent the time and effort to build up gold, for example, before a discounted offer for that same bot came up, you've had all that time to level it up and it's weapons -- you're ahead of the game. My opinion, people put a lot of emphasis on acquiring slick bots and weapons, but the real value of them only comes when they're well-leveled. I've got a shelf full of gear I won in the last event that's unusable until I spend many weeks upgrading it. Ofcourse they need to be leveled up, but a year ago, if you did not have certain lvl of XP and/or WSP you could not buy taran or magnum for cash, now could you? That is what op is saying. I have seen people in recruit league with magnums and tarans. A year ago you could not have had these before reaching certain XP lvl's. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by hyderier on Aug 19, 2017 2:12:19 GMT -5
for those of us who have spent a lot of time earning these weapons/bots/gold, these constant huge sales on items are very frustrating. I get that Pixonic needs to make money, but it's very upsetting. What's the incentive now? The bundles are even more upsetting, because people can spend a little bit of cash and get a great bot, weapons, and tons of gold or silver along with it. Not cool. First of all, they are not huge sales. You can at any time just buy gold and buy what you want. If they were selling pre-upgraded bots, that'd be radical. But now it really is just saving a few bucks, if you get some gold items from a sale, instead of just buying the gold at normal price, and then getting them. Besides, the silver and WSP offers are... I guess they're ok if you just want the items now and don't care about money, but for anybody who doesn't want to spend too much they're just ridiculously expensive.
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Post by Demosthenes on Aug 19, 2017 2:49:25 GMT -5
I agree with above. The "sales" are still ludicrously expensive for something you can get for free with a little patience. Plus I find it far more satisfying to earn the stuff in game. My only purchases in this game (bar an early 1200Au to get my beloved Rog) is for premium: (1) Ag is the most difficult resource as you progress; (2) 9.99 a month is a bargain for what is - despite its well-documented-on-this-forum flaws - a great game.
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Post by T34 on Aug 19, 2017 6:13:36 GMT -5
I find sales on wsp items rude to a degree as they are way overpriced and are targeting a niche that generally doesn't know any better. But besides that sales are great. If u want a particular item right now than pay RM. If not, hang around for a sale. If u dont like the sales bundle ....... well ...... don't buy. Just like real world stuff.
Re spending a lot of time earning these item............ well spend another lot more time and you will have so much gold that u will have everything u want. Perhaps silver is the only exception but then again there are sales for premium too.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Aug 19, 2017 12:19:32 GMT -5
Well, NOW we're being honest Dredd. Good for you !
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Post by amidf on Aug 19, 2017 12:28:04 GMT -5
I'm just happy that in Kentucky, it's accepted behavior to get drunk on moonshine and have intercourse with my pet goat while wearing a Sombrero and listening to the Back Street Boys. Arrrrrrrriba!!! Oops! Wrong forum, Dredd. This isn't the anything goes one. -Amid
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Post by BigBear on Aug 19, 2017 15:56:19 GMT -5
Not sure what sales other people are seeing but "a few bucks","dirt cheap",and "pennies" are not the sales i am seeing.
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Post by BigBear on Aug 19, 2017 16:00:28 GMT -5
I'm just happy that in Kentucky, it's accepted behavior to get drunk on moonshine and have intercourse with my pet goat while wearing a Sombrero and listening to the Back Street Boys. Arrrrrrrriba!!! I feel sorry for your pet goat,I hope as a responsible owner you supply lots of condoms and lube !!!
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Post by Golden Sabre on Aug 19, 2017 16:41:51 GMT -5
BigBear , you reckon they're sheepskin ?? Edit: My sincerest apologies for hijacking the thread
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 0:52:18 GMT -5
I'm just happy that in Kentucky, it's accepted behavior to get drunk on moonshine and have intercourse with my pet goat while wearing a Sombrero and listening to the Back Street Boys. Arrrrrrrriba!!! I think I just threw up in my mouth!
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Post by osang on Aug 20, 2017 2:47:00 GMT -5
for those of us who have spent a lot of time earning these weapons/bots/gold, these constant huge sales on items are very frustrating. I get that Pixonic needs to make money, but it's very upsetting. What's the incentive now? The bundles are even more upsetting, because people can spend a little bit of cash and get a great bot, weapons, and tons of gold or silver along with it. Not cool. Nothing wrong because they have...
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Post by vball on Aug 20, 2017 12:08:06 GMT -5
for those of us who have spent a lot of time earning these weapons/bots/gold, these constant huge sales on items are very frustrating. I get that Pixonic needs to make money, but it's very upsetting. What's the incentive now? The bundles are even more upsetting, because people can spend a little bit of cash and get a great bot, weapons, and tons of gold or silver along with it. Not cool. If you are playing for free, you should only complain about money when they start sending you the bill for their overhead....
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Post by SATmaster728 on Aug 24, 2017 7:15:40 GMT -5
acdcfan is correct. lance is an extreme example bc $80 is still a lot, but so many of these sales are like 25%-40% off. it sucks that i spent all that time saving up for certain things and now theyre dirt cheap for cash. aphids for instance, 2 for $7.99. i remember having to make a big decision buting my aphids with gold. now gold and weapons are sold for pennies in these sales. plus, EVERYONE has all the bots weapons now it seems like... bc its so easy to just click for a relatively cheap price. that is what it makes you think. the majority of the time, you can get it for cheaper, or take time and get it yourself.
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Post by _psychø on Aug 24, 2017 8:00:10 GMT -5
In the offers menu, it's the only place where I saw that a taran costs more than a Lancelot.
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Post by Russel on Aug 24, 2017 8:26:23 GMT -5
Ah you young hipsters, you can just use your internet for free now to go to the forum and ask ANYTHING about the game. Back in the days when I was playing first battle robot game, it was in ENGLISH, the foreign language, there were no "manual", no "forum" and even NO GOOGLE to find out anything. So I just keep on tapping different buttons in a hope to deal some damage! It's not fair, I demand that you young yolo stop using the Internet altogether so we old buggers could stand a chance!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 24, 2017 8:38:20 GMT -5
First... I am on both sides of this issue... For and against the bundles. I get the issue of seeing level 8 bots with Tarans and Mags. Not the best match for your average level 8 player... Thunders aren't even available until 10 ffs. I think the level rules should still apply... let them purchase, but have them not available until the purchaser reaches level 20. Go ahead and upgrade if you want, so that they are ready... but until level 20 is reached, "no equippy the plasma pew pew, you little noobie, you!" As far as the WSP value... Firebeard, it is based on someone buying enough Au to transfer Au to WSP for the item in question... which, if anyone one has not done that, don't. It is so not worth it... the price increases as the amount of WSPs that you get grows to the point that what you see in those sales IS cheaper than sitting there at the Workshop and buying WSP non stop until you would have enough. Is it a proper way to sell it? In my mind, not "no" but " HELL no." But, back to the OP: In a way, the WSP item real money cost sorta does keep it from being abused by too many folk that are lower than 20 because it is so astronomical a price to purchase. Yes it happens... and yes, it chaps my hide, too... but it's not a game breaker as it is. So far.IMO, YMMV
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