karljackson
Destrier
Posts: 120
Karma: 28
Platform: Android
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
|
Post by karljackson on Oct 9, 2016 10:06:50 GMT -5
I would like to get your opinions on best 7/10 gold hanger. The equivalent in medium bot setup to compliment the heavies is also of interest if applicable. I am familiar with hanger score, but don't have a lot of experience with heavies. I usually battle in silver.
|
|
LeonF
Destrier
Posts: 118
Karma: 48
|
Post by LeonF on Oct 9, 2016 11:14:48 GMT -5
This is my rebuilt 9/10ish hanger that uses a mix most Gold players would be familiar with.  It's proven to be rather more effective than its current 60% implies and should be more so once I've finished leveling evenly. The Rhino in particular is an acquired taste and will need practice to get the best from. Don't dedicate more than 1 slot to a runner and 1 more to a support bot - Galahad & Fury in this case. Note the mixed Fury load will switch to TriTrident when the non-shield bots become less commom above this tier. |
|
|
|
Post by Monst3rinyouri on Oct 9, 2016 12:03:19 GMT -5
7/10 will put you in with me. You won't last long in there. You need to first level out at flat 9, then progress from there after building up, say, a couple billion in silver.
|
|
|
|
Post by Divine Thunder on Oct 9, 2016 12:24:25 GMT -5
Am I missing something?
I looked at the upgrade costs of robots and weapons.
Though more expensive than they once were, by a whole lot, the previous comment of a couple billion in silver is way off base.
The most expensive robot to upgrade from 11 to 12 is the Galathad at 30 million. The most expensive weapon is a heavy and i believe it was 16 million.
With five robots and the most weapons on a robot is four, and all requiring at the most 11 upgrades, sure it will take a lot of silver, but a billion? Do not think so unless someone is trying to sport completely different hangers and thus have a lot of bots in storage ready to go. At max levels.
|
|
|
|
Post by EatStinkyTofu on Oct 9, 2016 14:42:07 GMT -5
I am running 7/9 heavies with 10/10 mediums
Lancelot, Rhino, Griffin, Galahad, Boa
I'll eventually replace the Boa with something else but frankly I'm still learning how to pilot everything else so it's nice to have one bot that I'm very comfortable with
|
|
|
|
Post by Monst3rinyouri on Oct 9, 2016 16:07:48 GMT -5
Am I missing something? I looked at the upgrade costs of robots and weapons. Though more expensive than they once were, by a whole lot, the previous comment of a couple billion in silver is way off base. The most expensive robot to upgrade from 11 to 12 is the Galathad at 30 million. The most expensive weapon is a heavy and i believe it was 16 million. With five robots and the most weapons on a robot is four, and all requiring at the most 11 upgrades, sure it will take a lot of silver, but a billion? Do not think so unless someone is trying to sport completely different hangers and thus have a lot of bots in storage ready to go. At max levels. Take it with a grain of salt, genius. |
|
karljackson
Destrier
Posts: 120
Karma: 28
Platform: Android
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
|
Post by karljackson on Oct 9, 2016 18:09:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. I noticed a lot of plasma weapons. Are they still that effective in gold?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Karma:
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 20:38:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. I noticed a lot of plasma weapons. Are they still that effective in gold? They can be. As an example, look at the input on these forums about the viability of a plasma Galahad vs. an all rocket Galahad (orkan/pinata/pinata). The plasma version is undoubtedly more effective. Galahad's speed and shield enable it to maximize the advantage of plasma. Not all bots are shielded, even in gold. The most important thing is balance. A high level plasma bot still presents a viable threat, because all the Griffins, Furys, and assorted other setups are still terribly vulnerable to sustained plasma damage. |
|
|
|
Post by Heishiro on Oct 9, 2016 20:58:30 GMT -5
im running this 7/10 setup.  |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Karma:
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 21:55:50 GMT -5
im running this 7/10 setup. That's an impressive lineup sir. I'm only 50,000,000 silver away from something near that. #grindforgoldtier #gonnatakeforever |
|
|
|
Post by Heishiro on Oct 9, 2016 22:53:50 GMT -5
^ oh.. i feel sad on that, honestly if there is a way to share some silver, gold or Wsp on this game im very willing to share some of mine specially with the new players, currently i have plenty of silvers and WSP which has no function to me, i do not have any plan to go max hangar, i have 1 L8 Galahad and 1 L8 Lancelot but the penalty of going L8 is too darn high! so i decide to just stay in 7/10, i can setup plenty of bots without worry of silvers. right now im just saving golds to get another Galahad and after that some aphids to play around. my L8 Galahad and Lancelot are not doing anything now, if there is a way to trade them to other player im ready to exchange both Gal and Lance for 2000 golds.  |
|
|
|
Post by couchtrader on Oct 10, 2016 2:24:41 GMT -5
Quick question guys. At what bot/wep level does gold start? Does 6/8 heavies go up with 7/10. Also, is MM fairly consistent at 7/10? Thanks in advance
|
|
|
|
Post by Heishiro on Oct 10, 2016 2:57:38 GMT -5
im not sure what is the bot/weap level to enter gold, i think once your heavy bot reach L7 thats already a gold specially those brits/gold or Wsp bots. for MM consistency, i cannot answer 100% but my games are more win than lose so far, i have a match last night that we face a 12/12 from iron smile clan but somehow our team manage to win, the 12/12 guy is good but MM punished him with crappy team, while my team are not strong in firepower we manage to win by advancing into beacon.   |
|
karljackson
Destrier
Posts: 120
Karma: 28
Platform: Android
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
|
Post by karljackson on Oct 10, 2016 11:45:05 GMT -5
im running this 7/10 setup. So you keep your Galahads at lvl 7 as well? |
|
|
|
Post by Heishiro on Oct 10, 2016 20:44:12 GMT -5
^ yup, all bots L7 and all Weaps L10. no plan to go up.
|
|
|
|
Post by RightOn on Oct 11, 2016 0:54:36 GMT -5
Strictly from a DPS point of view: Thunder Carnage Trident Fury Lancelot Tarans Thunder DB Griffin PDB Galahad Easily best hangar in the game. My hangar looks completely different though, and sitting at 500k average all day... Here you go i.imgur.com/QVGmhnS.jpgFrankly I don't think I would do a whole lot better stats-wise with the dream team you asked for, but in theory I would poop my pants in a 1 v 1  |
|
|
|
Post by nodalwars on Oct 11, 2016 10:43:18 GMT -5
^ oh.. i feel sad on that, honestly if there is a way to share some silver, gold or Wsp on this game im very willing to share some of mine specially with the new players, currently i have plenty of silvers and WSP which has no function to me, i do not have any plan to go max hangar, i have 1 L8 Galahad and 1 L8 Lancelot but the penalty of going L8 is too darn high! so i decide to just stay in 7/10, i can setup plenty of bots without worry of silvers. right now im just saving golds to get another Galahad and after that some aphids to play around. my L8 Galahad and Lancelot are not doing anything now, if there is a way to trade them to other player im ready to exchange both Gal and Lance for 2000 golds. I think you can gift to other players in your clan......so you can gift him X and he can gift you Y. |
|
|
|
Post by Heishiro on Oct 11, 2016 11:42:13 GMT -5
I think you can gift to other players in your clan......so you can gift him X and he can gift you Y. im still clan-less actually... and im not sure if this game has that function to trade |
|
karljackson
Destrier
Posts: 120
Karma: 28
Platform: Android
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
|
Post by karljackson on Oct 11, 2016 11:53:39 GMT -5
^ yup, all bots L7 and all Weaps L10. no plan to go up. Any idea if using a lvl 11 (with a lvl 9) weapon on a 7 heavy will bump you to max hanger territory? Even though the average is 10,is their a weapon level cutoff for max hanger match misery? |
|
Thatzme
Destrier
Posts: 15
Karma: 5
Pilot name: Thatzme
Platform: iOS
Clan: Wiki
League: Gold
Favorite robot: Lancelot
|
Post by Thatzme on Oct 11, 2016 18:33:44 GMT -5
^ yup, all bots L7 and all Weaps L10. no plan to go up. Since you have heavy bots at 7/10, your galahad can actually go up to around 9/11 and have around the same rating as your rhinos and fury. |
|
|
|
Post by Heishiro on Oct 11, 2016 20:40:28 GMT -5
^ yup, all bots L7 and all Weaps L10. no plan to go up. Any idea if using a lvl 11 (with a lvl 9) weapon on a 7 heavy will bump you to max hanger territory? Even though the average is 10,is their a weapon level cutoff for max hanger match misery? not sure about that mix of 9-11 weapons, maybe it depends on light/medium/heavy. we are also not sure how the MM really works, maybe choosing your highest bot level or weapon and MM will give you the match. |
|
|
|
Post by Heishiro on Oct 11, 2016 20:46:00 GMT -5
^ yup, all bots L7 and all Weaps L10. no plan to go up. Since you have heavy bots at 7/10, your galahad can actually go up to around 9/11 and have around the same rating as your rhinos and fury. i have 1 Gal in L8 with L10 weaps and the penalty is too darn high! my win % went 50% in just 2 days. |
|
|
|
Post by EatStinkyTofu on Oct 11, 2016 21:24:36 GMT -5
Since you have heavy bots at 7/10, your galahad can actually go up to around 9/11 and have around the same rating as your rhinos and fury. i have 1 Gal in L8 with L10 weaps and the penalty is too darn high! my win % went 50% in just 2 days. That's kind of weird. From what we know about the MM score, a 8/10 medium (even Galahad) is well under the score of a 7/9 heavy. I run 7/9 heavies with 10/10 mediums (including Galahad), and my win % runs 60-70% even though I'm still new to piloting my heavies and kind of stink at it. |
|
|
|
Post by Heishiro on Oct 11, 2016 21:53:01 GMT -5
maybe because i use too much gold bots? thats why the penalty is too high. i tried running 3 gal 1 rhino and 1 fury.
|
|
|
|
Post by ShutUpAndSmokeMyWeed on Oct 11, 2016 22:09:32 GMT -5
This is my rebuilt 9/10ish hanger that uses a mix most Gold players would be familiar with. It's proven to be rather more effective than its current 60% implies and should be more so once I've finished leveling evenly. The Rhino in particular is an acquired taste and will need practice to get the best from. Don't dedicate more than 1 slot to a runner and 1 more to a support bot - Galahad & Fury in this case. Note the mixed Fury load will switch to TriTrident when the non-shield bots become less commom above this tier. Not to derail the thread, but that is shockingly similar to my hangar!  |
|
|
|
Post by nightmarepatrol on Oct 12, 2016 6:02:57 GMT -5
Here is what I have.  I am currently sitting on about 40 million of silver, 7300 gold and 35k WSP. Given that MM has been chaotic at best and that I have been dropped into matches against player with hangars ranging from 6/6 to 12/12. I don't know *IF* MM will be straightened out of if it's just going to stay like this. I need some retooling/direction/input. I got a carnage for fun and it *has* been fun, but results have been spotty as the carnage is fragile but when a match goes my way I do well with it. Sometimes it doesn't. So my quandary is what to get next and what I need to do to shore up my hangar. I currently have no long range bots and thinking a trident fury would be a good investment. However after running into a more and more lancelots I see the appeal there. I know The boa and the carnage are my weakest links. Just looking for some advice on what's a good investment from the more knowledgeable group here. |
|
|
|
Post by player1hasleft on Oct 12, 2016 13:53:28 GMT -5
Man the upgrades takes a long time.. anyways what about 6/9 Brit/WSP in gold? is 6/9 not a good setup? And is there even a low/high gold tier? Thanks
|
|
xedus
Recruit
Posts: 1
Karma: 0
|
Post by xedus on Oct 13, 2016 13:51:55 GMT -5
any input on my current gold hanger and the upper limits of bot/weapon upgrades that i can level to without entering max gold tier? i'm very comfortable in my current tier (low gold?) whatever it is. i only see lvl 12 bots every now and then.  |
|
tttt
Destrier
Posts: 59
Karma: 15
|
Post by tttt on Oct 14, 2016 11:33:23 GMT -5
Here's my painfully-slow upgrade path based on the wiki matchmaking page.
- 6/4 H, 7/7 M, 8/10 L
- 6/5 H, 7/8 M, 10/10 L
- 6/6 H, 7/9 M, 10/11 L
- 6/7 H, 9/9 M, 10/12 L
- 6/8 H, 9/10 M, 12/12 L
In this hanger, I have 2 heavies (griffin and Leo), 1 medium Fujin and 1 light stalker
Working towards the first step, still, while saving my wsp for a rhino and gold for the fifth slot.
I know the wsp bots push me up, but the closer I get to balance the better the play seems to be. Plus, it's good to have a plan.
|
|
|
|
Post by springeb on Oct 15, 2016 11:27:44 GMT -5
Here's my painfully-slow upgrade path based on the wiki matchmaking page. - 6/4 H, 7/7 M, 8/10 L - 6/5 H, 7/8 M, 10/10 L - 6/6 H, 7/9 M, 10/11 L - 6/7 H, 9/9 M, 10/12 L - 6/8 H, 9/10 M, 12/12L
ttttt, This is an interesting model for upgrading HS hangars and up. I usually see players in the top tier with medium and heavy (and light Gareth and Stalkers) all maxed or evenly leveled. I wonder whether it makes more sense to just up your weapons on the heavies to 9 right off the bat. I leveled all of my weapons to 9 while playing in low silver on level 4 medium bots before I jumped my hangar into HS with addition of WSP bots and heavies. This means my heavies would start above the heavy levels you have in your schedule. Your upgrade schedule suggests my medium WSP/Au bots (Galahad, Carnage) can be leveled to catch up to heavies 6/9 before I start leveling the weapons on the heavies (Rhino, Griffins). Thanks for the idea. From my experience playing in Low Silver with medium 4/9 AG bots while preparing the weapons for my HS hangar, I would recommend for other players to do what I did. I was able to accumulate a pile of AG playing in Last Stand that I know will quickly shrink when I am leveling from 10 to 12. My experience is having bots in HS so often mixes with maxed hangars that anything from your hangar up tends to need more fire power to earn good rewards in battles. I do also have a second set of Last Stand bots that I can run for silver and variety when I am getting frustrated by a run of matches against maxed hangar top tier clans overpowering my developing HS hangar. Maybe some of my blending with top and the resulting frustration is due to my entry into HS with heavies 6/9 already. Do you get blended often with maxed hangars in your early leveling schedule hangar? |
|
