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Post by seanh on Jun 26, 2017 6:17:26 GMT -5
The preface….
I am glad the machine give us an easy(ish) way to get 60 gold a day.
The Rant……….
But, there is an acknowledged problem with people tanking, people focusing on damage, people just not trying to win matches for whatever reason. So to get this 60 gold a day what does the machine want me to do, a random selection:
- Get a boat load of damage, who cares if you win.
- Get a ridiculous amount of beacons, so many in fact you clearly aren’t going to be defending them at all, just trotting on to the next one.
- Get some red beacons, meaning you have disincentive to push for early control, or hold a tight 3/2 advantage.
- Kill a rake of robots. Don’t go near any of those full health ones prowling around, they are hard to kill, hang back, let the other blues soften a few up then pop in with you mid / long rang and take a few easy scalps.
- Get a boat load of damage with light robots, run a hanger full of midgets for a game or two, no problem.
- Do some combination of the above with some medium robots, sure why not.
- Balance on one foot while whistling Dixie (ok, so I made one up)
Wait for it, final one:
- Win some matches, finally, at last, an objective we can all agree on. How many matches? ....8....
Feckin 8, with the misaligned, demotivated bunch of muppet randoms I’m playing with that might take me all day, and then some. I’ll just change it out for more damage.
Rant over_____(deep breath)_________________ .
Now the philosophical part……
In fairness, I can do most of them just by playing normally, but every now and then I get one that (if I did it), would involve changing my game plan and not focusing on winning. I just think there has to be a better way. If the machine is happy enough to give every player sixty free gold a day, I would hope there has to be a way to use that as a more positive motivator to get people to actually work with the team mates to win matches?
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Post by wildboar on Jun 26, 2017 6:32:34 GMT -5
I have just has the 350k damage from a light... just came with normal gameplay with a Gareth...
however the destroy x robots in a single match with a light meant changing out bots just to make sure I could do it.
I agree with most of what you say (apart from the whistling dixie) most of the tasks for me just happen as part of my normal playstyle...
I deal damage/destroy robots - I get beacons - I liberate ...it just happens . I guess if you are a camper/sniper all of the beacon tasks might seem 「whiskey tango foxtrot」!?
depending on where you are on the match maker roller-coaster the win 8 can be a slog or a breeze
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Post by Russel on Jun 26, 2017 6:38:27 GMT -5
You know that you basically can rack up to 5 tasks and do them simultaneously for, like for three days, right?
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Post by imnobody on Jun 26, 2017 6:43:14 GMT -5
here is the dumbest ONE. ''Kill 4 robots with a LIGHT robot". RIiiiiiight... let me go a head and kill bots in higher tier.. its evidently light bots are irrelevant & are useless in higher tier.
I switched twice and ended up with this bull of crud..now i have to wait tomorrow and switch a new one. HOPEFULLY!.... I don't end up with a stupid one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 6:45:12 GMT -5
I really hate that 'Win 8 Battles' especially when the only way to change it is with gold. Damn task takes me at least 2-3 days to complete.
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Post by imnobody on Jun 26, 2017 6:53:58 GMT -5
I really hate that 'Win 8 Battles' especially when the only way to change it is with gold. Damn task takes me at least 2-3 days to complete. winning 8 battle is a piece of cake. i can crush that in a day if i'm in the mood . the algorithm teases sometimes. I been to lots of matches where our team about to win and the game erratically turn the table and we lose. another stupid useless task! dominate 13 beacons (eat 「dookie」 and die 「bum-bum」 hole). |
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Post by K A Z on Jun 26, 2017 6:54:21 GMT -5
I found it always 「female dog」y difficult to complete the "Deal 350k damage with light bot" task with my Griffins...they are rather lightweight, right? Can even jump and stuff....
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Post by TravLar on Jun 26, 2017 7:13:24 GMT -5
here is the dumbest ONE. ''Kill 4 robots with a LIGHT robot". RIiiiiiight... let me go a head and kill bots in higher tier.. its evidently light bots are irrelevant & are useless in higher tier. I switched twice and ended up with this bull of crud..now i have to wait tomorrow and switch a new one. HOPEFULLY!.... I don't end up with a stupid one. Not a tough one actually. Take your most levelled up light, arm it with some thing effective, pref. 500m, or plasma on a Gareth, find a damaged bot, kill it and repeat... There's always a plasma griff around, or a Carnage. Do it while you grab a beacon. And you'll see that Gareth's aren't over, nor stalkers. Speaking of which, I see the new guy in Legends with only 4 slots runs a Gareth. There's also Gepard with Aphids, at DC, PP, Yamantau or Moon Map. |
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Post by imnobody on Jun 26, 2017 7:35:31 GMT -5
here is the dumbest ONE. ''Kill 4 robots with a LIGHT robot". RIiiiiiight... let me go a head and kill bots in higher tier.. its evidently light bots are irrelevant & are useless in higher tier. I switched twice and ended up with this bull of crud..now i have to wait tomorrow and switch a new one. HOPEFULLY!.... I don't end up with a stupid one. Not a tough one actually. Take your most levelled up light, arm it with some thing effective, pref. 500m, or plasma on a Gareth, find a damaged bot, kill it and repeat... There's always a plasma griff around, or a Carnage. Do it while you grab a beacon. And you'll see that Gareth's aren't over, nor stalkers. Speaking of which, I see the new guy in Legends with only 4 slots runs a Gareth. There's also Gepard with Aphids, at DC, PP, Yamantau or Moon Map. "the new guy in legend with 4 slots run a Gareth." uhh...Do you mean a guy who abuse in LQ. |
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Post by TravLar on Jun 26, 2017 7:39:06 GMT -5
Not a tough one actually. Take your most levelled up light, arm it with some thing effective, pref. 500m, or plasma on a Gareth, find a damaged bot, kill it and repeat... There's always a plasma griff around, or a Carnage. Do it while you grab a beacon. And you'll see that Gareth's aren't over, nor stalkers. Speaking of which, I see the new guy in Legends with only 4 slots runs a Gareth. There's also Gepard with Aphids, at DC, PP, Yamantau or Moon Map. "the new guy in legend with 4 slots run a Gareth." uhh...Do you mean a guy who abuse in LQ. I'd be surprised if you can be in the LQ and in the Legends League |
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Post by K A Z on Jun 26, 2017 7:41:40 GMT -5
TravLar - agree on Gareths. It's true, that with RDB abundance their life cycle may be short...even worse if a tip of 12/12 TTFury shows up from behind a hill in PP. Trick is to be more selective and aware than ever. I'm no big Gary fan, but this little pest can easily avoid orks and on some maps can do much more than just beacon capping. I had a match recently that went weird but very well: it was a moon map and I spawned Gary. I started the maniacal dance and was lucky enough to avoid all MR splash. Game ended relatively shortly (not sure 6..8 min?) with a nice win. The weird part was that I was still in my Gary, the thing had even the shield on (!) having a 350k in damage and a handful of kills and beacons. That is one side of a coin...other was mentioned encounter with TTF, that rolled up just in time to feed my poor 9/9 Gary with MR take-away meal...I think last Tridents from this volley were not even needed ;P
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 26, 2017 8:19:18 GMT -5
Gary is my go-to... but lately I am using Ork/Pinata for the instruments of Red Destruction. You can do a lot with that bot if you try.
When I squad, I try to actually get things accomplished with it... so usually die quickly as I tend to try and tie up the Home beacon and Sniperland of the Reds after any beacon caps that I may need to get. Solo, however, if I have that task... I try to stay in it longer, pick my battles, run before I actually need to, and generally try to play by myself, for myself. It is easier than it seems to rack up the damage, but I try not to showcase team-oriented playing when doing that. Dailies... we all gotta do em, and sometimes that means you turn to selfish game goals. Then again, a lot of times, I fail at that and just instinctively try to help and win lol. Either way, Gary or Aphid Jesse, or even Pin Jesse, may be easy paths to that.
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Post by imnobody on Jun 26, 2017 8:28:48 GMT -5
2/8 win 8 battles Task. all day thats what i';ve only accomplish 2 wins. When I dont have that task I win, when I have that task I lose mad. I play this game free and I am playing on it. I am not going to spend one single penny on these devs. I guess 「dookie」sonic hasn't gotten enough money lately to put decent food on their table, so they pressure their player's to spend real money buy gold... I guess the algorithm is on (program has wicked intention behind it- like a human being) "tease mode" right now to let the players lose on purpose.
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Post by wildboar on Jun 26, 2017 8:44:11 GMT -5
the win 8 battles will come sooner or later, you just need to play enough games . It depends where you are on the MM cycle as to whether it is going to take you 10 battles or 25 as it pushes you to the magic 50% winrate
it is the x task in a single battle that grinds my gears... the other tasks get done eventually with enough battles (even if you need to swap in a light or med to do the task)
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Post by imnobody on Jun 26, 2017 8:45:31 GMT -5
the win 8 battles will come sooner or later, you just need to play enough games . It depends where you are on the MM cycle as to whether it is going to take you 10 battles or 25 as it pushes you to the magic 50% winrate it is the x task in a single battle that grinds my gears... the other tasks get done eventually with enough battles (even if you need to swap in a light or med to do the task) here what i think of pix  |
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Post by wildboar on Jun 26, 2017 8:47:50 GMT -5
I think that dog need a different diet -
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Post by imnobody on Jun 26, 2017 9:00:21 GMT -5
I think that dog need a different diet - look obvious Pixonic hasn't gotten enough money from the player's to eat decent food with dietary fiber lately.... especially the condition it's in right now. |
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Post by TravLar on Jun 26, 2017 9:11:02 GMT -5
imonobody.... Jeez dude!
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Post by seanh on Jun 26, 2017 9:38:31 GMT -5
the win 8 battles will come sooner or later, you just need to play enough games . It depends where you are on the MM cycle as to whether it is going to take you 10 battles or 25 as it pushes you to the magic 50% winrate it is the x task in a single battle that grinds my gears... the other tasks get done eventually with enough battles (even if you need to swap in a light or med to do the task) here what i think of pix
Man, I just had lunch,
You can't say that about pix, well you can but now the forum will be spamed to hell and back by love doctor internerdbots.
They are pix right? Punishing us for negative posts?
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Post by blognio on Jun 26, 2017 9:41:46 GMT -5
Young people these days, never appreciating them tasks.
Back in my day we didn't even have these fancy galahads, or lancelots, we had the good old Rhino, who would ram us in and kill those destriers!
I've never seena Rhino before and I'm walking in my malot golem and boom and Rhino! Whats a molot to do?
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Post by bugdoc on Jun 26, 2017 10:18:30 GMT -5
There does seem to be little rhyme or reason to the daily tasks. I average about 440k damage, 3 kills, & 2 beacons each game and have about 50% win rate, so here's what it takes me to complete certain tasks: Do 400k damage in a heavy robot - 1 game. Do 2,250,000 damage - 5 games Kill 18 robots - 6 games Capture 18 beacons - 9 games Win 8 games - 16 games Why should a task that only takes 1-2 games to complete give the same reward as one that takes 16 or more? I would be in favor a little tweaking here. For instance, the 'win 8 games' task should be worth at least 40 Au instead of 30. I don't mind when a particular task takes a couple of days to complete (as we have plenty of opportunities to get them completed), but they should be worth a bit more. There are certain tasks I always swap out (all WP tasks, light robot tasks, etc...). Even if it takes a day or two to swap them out for something better, the ultimate payout is the same. I don't get worked up about it.  |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jun 26, 2017 12:45:38 GMT -5
Anything with a light or medium bot I immediately switch out. Most of the others I've gotten to be able to bang out in an hour or two at the most. Capping beacons, I drop in the ECU Cossack. It always seems, though, that whatever the tasks are, the first four or five games are stacked against me. If it's to capture beacons, then there are three other beacon runners on my team. If it's to liberate enemy beacons, I'll end up on Yamantau or Springfield, where the game usually centers around the center beacon and forget about reaching any others. Win xx games, I end up on teams of morons who never heard of a beacon. Killing enemy bots and dealing damage seem to be the ones I can knock off pretty consistently; as long as I don't care about actually winning (which I don't, at that point I only care about the gold), I'm getting pretty good at hunting down the injured and vulnerable. It eventually evens out and they all get completed. Maybe some day when my hangar is leveled up and I have a good, sturdy and well-armed light-weight among them I'll take on those light-bot tasks. But not now. Why should a task that only takes 1-2 games to complete give the same reward as one that takes 16 or more? I would be in favor a little tweaking here. For instance, the 'win 8 games' task should be worth at least 40 Au instead of 30. I don't mind when a particular task takes a couple of days to complete (as we have plenty of opportunities to get them completed), but they should be worth a bit more. Especially when tasks like winning games is so dependent on the other five players. You can only do so much alone to help your team win. |
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Post by Firebeard on Jun 26, 2017 12:57:22 GMT -5
This Thread is hilarious .. I literally lol'd
I agree with the OP. Some are very difficult. I run Medium Mecha with the odd Heavy so, I usually skip the "Damage" Tasks.
What I don't understand is, why the WSP Tasks are so much more involved..? - "Destroy 40 Mecha, Capture 25 Beacons, Deal 500k Damage," etc...
Also, Liberating a Red Beacon (Red to Blue) counts as 2 so, you can do both Liberate and Capture simultaneously.
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Post by thes1darstard on Jun 26, 2017 14:57:03 GMT -5
For me, the "in a single match" tend to be the hardest to accomplish. Possibly because I set my expectation that I actually CAN do it in the NEXT match. Then I get frustrated that for the next series of matches I only get some of what's necessary accomplished. Most frustrating one yet for me was "Liberate 3 beacons in a match with a medium robot". So... I need Red to take it, then I need to take it back. In a medium. 4 times in one match??? I almost wish I could force a clan mate onto the other team so we could play "swap-a-beacon" in the corner. Yeesh. This IS the rant page, right? Ok. |
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Post by BastionOW on Jun 26, 2017 15:12:05 GMT -5
the win 8 battles will come sooner or later, you just need to play enough games . It depends where you are on the MM cycle as to whether it is going to take you 10 battles or 25 as it pushes you to the magic 50% winrate it is the x task in a single battle that grinds my gears... the other tasks get done eventually with enough battles (even if you need to swap in a light or med to do the task) here what i think of pix Mustard? |
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Post by ogpondskum on Jun 29, 2017 21:32:10 GMT -5
For the most part, I keep whatever task I get. I seem to get the Win 8 battles every other day. I only skip the Squad task as I think most other tasks are semi easily obtainable or at least fun enough to keep me interested.
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Post by WilsonK on Jun 29, 2017 21:52:30 GMT -5
Come on... daily tasks are there to give you free gold and yet so many types of rants...?  Seems like a lot of rants going about with the "light bots" tasks, just load a hangar full of lights! With your strongest weapons! Just keep playing... it's not like the daily task requires you to complete the task on ONE attempt right...?! LOLOLOLOL Just enjoy the game, take your time with the tasks. |
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Post by WilsonK on Jun 29, 2017 21:54:05 GMT -5
I really hate that 'Win 8 Battles' especially when the only way to change it is with gold. Damn task takes me at least 2-3 days to complete. At least it's just a matter of time before you get it  |
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Post by WilsonK on Jun 29, 2017 21:55:04 GMT -5
You know that you basically can rack up to 5 tasks and do them simultaneously for, like for three days, right? Not everyone thinks that way... most are so eager to complete the task in "one attempt".. LOL |
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Post by nocluevok on Jun 29, 2017 22:20:07 GMT -5
here is the dumbest ONE. ''Kill 4 robots with a LIGHT robot". RIiiiiiight... let me go a head and kill bots in higher tier.. its evidently light bots are irrelevant & are useless in higher tier. I switched twice and ended up with this bull of crud..now i have to wait tomorrow and switch a new one. HOPEFULLY!.... I don't end up with a stupid one. Not a tough one actually. Take your most levelled up light, arm it with some thing effective, pref. 500m, or plasma on a Gareth, find a damaged bot, kill it and repeat... There's always a plasma griff around, or a Carnage. Do it while you grab a beacon. And you'll see that Gareth's aren't over, nor stalkers. Speaking of which, I see the new guy in Legends with only 4 slots runs a Gareth. There's also Gepard with Aphids, at DC, PP, Yamantau or Moon Map. Doesn't mean you have with 1 light bot in a single match. There is one like that though. Kill 2 bots I think. |
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