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Post by WilsonK on Jun 29, 2017 21:17:29 GMT -5
I would not get a Lancelot. It only really starts to shine at level 9+ and weapons at 10+. I would keep levelling your current hangar and just save your gold for now. For the current meta, that hangar is totally playable all the way up to near the top tiers. You'd really need an anciles and the Lance, so it would be even more expensive than just the 5k, and if the Korean bots become common, it might be a complete dud. I am speaking from experience on the Lance front, BTW. Mine was a disaster until he was 8/8 and wasn't good until he was 9. Without an ancile, he's just Uber fragile because of his girth. Tub-a-love just doesn't dance out of rocket range well at all. For all intents and purposes, low level Lancelot are basically just Leo's with a slightly different weapon loadout. Drake did a pretty good job of letting you know how it is. If you're not willing to commit to lvl 9 across the board for an Ancilot specifically, then a don't bother. Oh yes with this, Lancelot & Ancile from 8 onwards is a pain in the 「bum-bum」 for waiting, mine is at 9/9 now although my Tarans are 12. And this is just 1 Ancilot. On another note, 2 light dash bots with just 2 Tarans each can pretty much take you out easily, because Lance turns reaaaaaaaaaal slow!  BUT for me it's all about having fun and not competitive play, I'm a walking tank that melts anything with plasma, so kill me ASAP guys!  |
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jun 29, 2017 21:51:57 GMT -5
Overall, I believe the Lancelot is one bot that is probably the LEAST in danger from the Korean bots.
The DB, PDB, RDB setup currently used already output equal DPS to the triple medium Taran, Orkan, or Tulu setups that a the Korean bots will carry, there's not much that will change for the Lancelot pilot other than perhaps using Taran or the new Scourge rather than Orkans. Btw, the Zeus or Tempest with dual Scourges on a Lance are a sweet combo and I'm sure you'll see those setups come up to counter the Korean bots.
If I had to pick the bots that are currently being used that will fall out of favor when the Korean bots or the Scourge gets here, I'd say these are it:
- Carnage (it gets completely owed by any Zeus/Scourge, Scourge/Gekko, or tri-Scourge setup at distances that nullify any weapon the Carnage can carry)
- Fujin (this setup makes no sense after the Mk2 lands)
- Rog (not fast enough to beat a Mk1 to a beacon, can't outfight a Mk2 even if the Rog fires first, and it'll get burned to he'll be every Scourge setup out there when it jumps), Galahad (one shot and done from an Orkan Mk2 and no way to run away from it)
- Fury (as triple scourges at 600m will output around 70-75K per 10 sec salvo and 5 secs later it's another 70-75K --- all while being able to CORNER shoot at a Zeus Fury and Dash to evade a Trident Fury).
In closing, I'd say, save for the Korean bots or multiple Scourge weapons. However, if it looks like Au won't buy either, buy the Lance and an Ancil - which will still be good even after the Korean bots and the Scourge land.
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Post by 0ppressor on Jun 29, 2017 22:24:48 GMT -5
Overall, I believe the Lancelot is one bot that is probably the LEAST in danger from the Korean bots. The DB, PDB, RDB setup currently used already output equal DPS to the triple medium Taran, Orkan, or Tulu setups that a the Korean bots will carry, there's not much that will change for the Lancelot pilot other than perhaps using Taran or the new Scourge rather than Orkans. Btw, the Zeus or Tempest with dual Scourges on a Lance are a sweet combo and I'm sure you'll see those setups come up to counter the Korean bots. If I had to pick the bots that are currently being used that will fall out of favor when the Korean bots or the Scourge gets here, I'd say these are it: - Carnage (it gets completely owed by any Zeus/Scourge, Scourge/Gekko, or tri-Scourge setup at distances that nullify any weapon the Carnage can carry) - Fujin (this setup makes no sense after the Mk2 lands) - Rog (not fast enough to beat a Mk1 to a beacon, can't outfight a Mk2 even if the Rog fires first, and it'll get burned to he'll be every Scourge setup out there when it jumps), Galahad (one shot and done from an Orkan Mk2 and no way to run away from it) - Fury (as triple scourges at 600m will output around 70-75K per 10 sec salvo and 5 secs later it's another 70-75K --- all while being able to CORNER shoot at a Zeus Fury and Dash to evade a Trident Fury). In closing, I'd say, save for the Korean bots or multiple Scourge weapons. However, if it looks like Au won't buy either, buy the Lance and an Ancil - which will still be good even after the Korean bots and the Scourge land. Just to confirm, are you also saying that the Scourge is now 600m max range instead of 400m? Because if so, many of my prayers will have been answered! |
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Post by T34 on Jun 30, 2017 0:28:44 GMT -5
Overall, I believe the Lancelot is one bot that is probably the LEAST in danger from the Korean bots. The DB, PDB, RDB setup currently used already output equal DPS to the triple medium Taran, Orkan, or Tulu setups that a the Korean bots will carry, there's not much that will change for the Lancelot pilot other than perhaps using Taran or the new Scourge rather than Orkans. Btw, the Zeus or Tempest with dual Scourges on a Lance are a sweet combo and I'm sure you'll see those setups come up to counter the Korean bots. If I had to pick the bots that are currently being used that will fall out of favor when the Korean bots or the Scourge gets here, I'd say these are it: - Carnage (it gets completely owed by any Zeus/Scourge, Scourge/Gekko, or tri-Scourge setup at distances that nullify any weapon the Carnage can carry) - Fujin (this setup makes no sense after the Mk2 lands) - Rog (not fast enough to beat a Mk1 to a beacon, can't outfight a Mk2 even if the Rog fires first, and it'll get burned to he'll be every Scourge setup out there when it jumps), Galahad (one shot and done from an Orkan Mk2 and no way to run away from it) - Fury (as triple scourges at 600m will output around 70-75K per 10 sec salvo and 5 secs later it's another 70-75K --- all while being able to CORNER shoot at a Zeus Fury and Dash to evade a Trident Fury). In closing, I'd say, save for the Korean bots or multiple Scourge weapons. However, if it looks like Au won't buy either, buy the Lance and an Ancil - which will still be good even after the Korean bots and the Scourge land. Just to confirm, are you also saying that the Scourge is now 600m max range instead of 400m? Because if so, many of my prayers will have been answered! Scourge at 600 would be a nightmare IMO. game would be unbalanced too much. |
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jun 30, 2017 1:00:21 GMT -5
Overall, I believe the Lancelot is one bot that is probably the LEAST in danger from the Korean bots. The DB, PDB, RDB setup currently used already output equal DPS to the triple medium Taran, Orkan, or Tulu setups that a the Korean bots will carry, there's not much that will change for the Lancelot pilot other than perhaps using Taran or the new Scourge rather than Orkans. Btw, the Zeus or Tempest with dual Scourges on a Lance are a sweet combo and I'm sure you'll see those setups come up to counter the Korean bots. If I had to pick the bots that are currently being used that will fall out of favor when the Korean bots or the Scourge gets here, I'd say these are it: - Carnage (it gets completely owed by any Zeus/Scourge, Scourge/Gekko, or tri-Scourge setup at distances that nullify any weapon the Carnage can carry) - Fujin (this setup makes no sense after the Mk2 lands) - Rog (not fast enough to beat a Mk1 to a beacon, can't outfight a Mk2 even if the Rog fires first, and it'll get burned to he'll be every Scourge setup out there when it jumps), Galahad (one shot and done from an Orkan Mk2 and no way to run away from it) - Fury (as triple scourges at 600m will output around 70-75K per 10 sec salvo and 5 secs later it's another 70-75K --- all while being able to CORNER shoot at a Zeus Fury and Dash to evade a Trident Fury). In closing, I'd say, save for the Korean bots or multiple Scourge weapons. However, if it looks like Au won't buy either, buy the Lance and an Ancil - which will still be good even after the Korean bots and the Scourge land. Just to confirm, are you also saying that the Scourge is now 600m max range instead of 400m? Because if so, many of my prayers will have been answered! 600m range -   |
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akshaybrawler
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Pilot name: Akshaybrawler
Platform: Android
Clan: Black Ops
League: Expert
Server Region: Asia
Favorite robot: Oath-breaker Galahad
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Post by akshaybrawler on Jun 30, 2017 1:57:18 GMT -5
I would definitely go for a lance.Even if the Korean bot are out and beat the lancelot in terms of mobility you still have the chance if you have the necessary skill.Always keep in mind the terrains also affect hugely the dashes.When the dashes is block then use your lance to strike them hard. The ancilot is still mostly use at this time because of the tulumbas,pin,pinata buff!!!!!!!
Good luck on your choice there...
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akshaybrawler
Destrier
Posts: 81
Karma: 11
Pilot name: Akshaybrawler
Platform: Android
Clan: Black Ops
League: Expert
Server Region: Asia
Favorite robot: Oath-breaker Galahad
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Post by akshaybrawler on Jun 30, 2017 2:02:34 GMT -5
Just to confirm, are you also saying that the Scourge is now 600m max range instead of 400m? Because if so, many of my prayers will have been answered! 600m range - These scourge will fail in the fujin if the korean bots will be out. The Haechi with three scourge can beat that fujin in a split of seconds. The new combo that will come lance too might beat it( 2*scourge and zeus) |
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Post by Russel on Jun 30, 2017 2:21:51 GMT -5
It is bad now, yep. But think of Dashes: - They are hard to target - They are fragile more or less So you need weapons that are either homing or shoots at instant; ideally longrange. So basically it would be: 1) Spiral 2) Gekko 3) Upgraded Noricum (pretty fast) 4) Hydra 5) KangDae 6) Zeus 7) Trebuchet And I think that's all. I am going to level up Trebuchet\Gekko Leo and Zeus Carnage for this stuff. Slight misinformation... Most Dash setups I saw that weren't squishy were 350-500. Your best bet is leveling up the Tarans, they are dead accurate and fast reload makes them perfect for counter Dash. Remember they are like Carmages but fast for 10-20s. Sorry, dude, didn't get you. Dash cool down is 5 second; Dash got 2 charges. You dash for ~2 seconds. So you dash out of the cover, unleash Orkans and dash back. How you can counter it with Tarans? |
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Post by 0ppressor on Jun 30, 2017 10:17:47 GMT -5
Just to confirm, are you also saying that the Scourge is now 600m max range instead of 400m? Because if so, many of my prayers will have been answered! 600m range - SWEET! YES! Finally the missing medium hardpoint mid-long range energy weapon that is noticably missing. Thnk you, I did not know they upped the range last test server. |
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