crave1ne
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Post by crave1ne on May 6, 2017 8:54:11 GMT -5
Just like the title says. I have a Griffin all plasma right now. I have some lvl 5 Aphids I purchased a month ago and never leveled up. I was OWNED on Shenz by a Griffin running Tara/Aphids. And started to really give the set up a thought. I'm running two Griffins right now. DB, and Plasma. So, give me some insight and what you have experienced when running either of these...
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Post by amidf on May 6, 2017 9:12:41 GMT -5
Given those two choices, it has to be either. Both are viable uses of aphids. You need some plasma bots and some rocket bots. So whether tarans or orkans depends on the balance in the rest of your lineup.
-Amid
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on May 6, 2017 9:18:23 GMT -5
I don't see how Aphids are better than other options on a Griffin.
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Post by Paps on May 6, 2017 9:23:39 GMT -5
Can't huck pinatas or magnum projectiles over buildings.
I prefer Stuka over taran/aphid, but both work better for me compared to other options.
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on May 6, 2017 9:31:23 GMT -5
Can't huck pinatas or magnum projectiles over buildings. I prefer Stuka over taran/aphid, but both work better for me compared to other options. ... there aren't many buildings Aphids clear since the tracking changed... |
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 6, 2017 9:43:56 GMT -5
Can't huck pinatas or magnum projectiles over buildings. I prefer Stuka over taran/aphid, but both work better for me compared to other options. ... there aren't many buildings Aphids clear since the tracking changed... There's a thing called jump. Personally I just tried out the taran/aphids last night. Hated it. Stuka all the way for me..... used to run 2, may again. Love that bot. |
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Post by Paps on May 6, 2017 9:44:10 GMT -5
I don't find that to be the case.
Edit: Thunderkiss spoiled my continuity. I approve of his contribution, though ?
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crave1ne
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Post by crave1ne on May 6, 2017 9:51:31 GMT -5
Apparently I suck at doing polls lol. There should only be two polls 1. Taran/Aphid 2. Ork/Aphid I recently stuck Griffins back into my hangar. My damage rate had gone WAY down after using Galahad's exclusively in my hangar. So, I switched it up to a full on HEAVY hitter hangar. I'm not the greatest with a plasma Griffin, I'm not sure why. Other players seem to be extremely good with this set up. I'm WAY better with rockets than plasma on a Griffin. Anyway, here is my hangar as of today. Was looking at adding Aphids to the line up somehow...  |
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on May 6, 2017 10:00:30 GMT -5
... there aren't many buildings Aphids clear since the tracking changed... There's a thing called jump. Personally I just tried out the taran/aphids last night. Hated it. Stuka all the way for me..... used to run 2, may again. Love that bot. ... I know there's a thing call jump, smartypants, but if you use the jump, buildings become irrelevant. ... and if you use the jump, the question then becomes, why not use a normal DB Griffin? |
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 6, 2017 10:10:36 GMT -5
There's a thing called jump. Personally I just tried out the taran/aphids last night. Hated it. Stuka all the way for me..... used to run 2, may again. Love that bot. ... I know there's a thing call jump, smartypants, but if you use the jump, buildings become irrelevant. ... and if you use the jump, the question then becomes, why not use a normal DB Griffin? Because, los breaks pins, not aphids. Therefore aphids are more versatile. Really not sure why I'm explaining basic game mechanics here. Any more foolish questions? |
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on May 6, 2017 10:21:39 GMT -5
... I know there's a thing call jump, smartypants, but if you use the jump, buildings become irrelevant. ... and if you use the jump, the question then becomes, why not use a normal DB Griffin? Because, los breaks pins, not aphids. Therefore aphids are more versatile. Really not sure why I'm explaining basic game mechanics here. Any more foolish questions? No need to be rude. You're the one who suggested jumping as a mechanism I supposedly wasn't aware of, then talk about LOS, which is irrelevant if you're jumping! Anyway, you can keep your explanations of "basic game mechanics" if they come with abuse. |
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Post by snk on May 6, 2017 10:26:52 GMT -5
I am planning putting Aphids on my DB Griffin. I like all plasma (PDB) to kill energy shield bots, but Aphids does help missile weapons break some of the energy shield before you firing Orkan. The good thing is, you can level up the aphids, try it yourself for both PDB and DB. Suit your play style is more important.
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Post by 7iquid on May 6, 2017 10:38:24 GMT -5
On the business end of my Plasmahad.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 11:13:04 GMT -5
Taran Aphid Griffin > Taran Magnum Griffin
Orkan Aphid Griffin = Orkan Pinata Griffin
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Post by SlowReflexes on May 6, 2017 11:38:54 GMT -5
Because, los breaks pins, not aphids. Therefore aphids are more versatile. Really not sure why I'm explaining basic game mechanics here. Any more foolish questions? No need to be rude. You're the one who suggested jumping as a mechanism I supposedly wasn't aware of, then talk about LOS, which is irrelevant if you're jumping! Anyway, you can keep your explanations of "basic game mechanics" if they come with abuse. Yeah no need to get snippy. With the O/A or DB Griffin your main limitation is reload on your Orkans. Also, bear in mind jump recharge. In the O/A Griff you can do quick jump in kills just like a DB. And then while the Orkans reload, you can fling Aphids without exposing yourself. Or you can walk in, flinging Aphids without exposing yourself while you approach, step out and unload the Orkans and jump out. And then fling more Aphids while your Orkans reload and your jump recharges. The Aphids do more damage over time than the piñatas. There are far more occasions when you can use them. DB Griffs spend a lot of time either stalking, or hiding/reloading. With Aphids, during all that time you could be doing a lot of damage. ETA: It really only works out when your Aphids go *over* stuff. Most of the time for me they do, but I don't really try to shoot over anything tall. |
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Post by SlowReflexes on May 6, 2017 11:46:12 GMT -5
I personally prefer O/A. I always use one, and occasionally use two.
I've been seeing more T/A Griffs lately though, and I have to say they are tougher opponents for my plasma Gareth or Galahad than a pure plasma Griff.
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crave1ne
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Post by crave1ne on May 6, 2017 12:00:23 GMT -5
No need to be rude. You're the one who suggested jumping as a mechanism I supposedly wasn't aware of, then talk about LOS, which is irrelevant if you're jumping! Anyway, you can keep your explanations of "basic game mechanics" if they come with abuse. Yeah no need to get snippy. With the O/A or DB Griffin your main limitation is reload on your Orkans. Also, bear in mind jump recharge. In the O/A Griff you can do quick jump in kills just like a DB. And then while the Orkans reload, you can fling Aphids without exposing yourself. Or you can walk in, flinging Aphids without exposing yourself while you approach, step out and unload the Orkans and jump out. And then fling more Aphids while your Orkans reload and your jump recharges. The Aphids do more damage over time than the piñatas. There are far more occasions when you can use them. DB Griffs spend a lot of time either stalking, or hiding/reloading. With Aphids, during all that time you could be doing a lot of damage. ETA: It really only works out when your Aphids go *over* stuff. Most of the time for me they do, but I don't really try to shoot over anything tall. Thats what I'm trying to get used to... I went ahead and did ork/aphid combo. I'm so used to unloading, and then hiding and waiting for another chance. I forget that the aphids reload faster. Thanks for the tips! |
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Post by crave1ne on May 6, 2017 12:01:05 GMT -5
I personally prefer O/A. I always use one, and occasionally use two. I've been seeing more T/A Griffs lately though, and I have to say they are tougher opponents for my plasma Gareth or Galahad than a pure plasma Griff. Taran/Aphid set up took out my carnage, and plasma griffin... all in the same game.. I'm not an awesome player, but damn! |
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Post by SlowReflexes on May 6, 2017 12:47:40 GMT -5
Hmmm. I do see the other side though, and it's real.
A DB likes to stalk or ambush an enemy, and then kill them quickly in a blast of rockets.
The pinatas contribute to that 'big rocket blast' or home run swing as I once called it in another thread.
When a DB commits, it's pretty important to get the kill quickly and cleanly. You don't want an injured enemy shooting at you from close range, while your pinatas reload and your Orkans trickle. That's just a mess, when you should be peacefully reloading and getting ready for the next kill. Sometimes a fatal mess.
So if not having the pinatas means your rocket firepower isn't enough to give you clean kills against the enemies you face (and for everyone that's different, because of the level of your own gear, and of your enemies) then you really want the pinatas.
For me I find aphids work better, but it depends.
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Post by crave1ne on May 6, 2017 12:53:54 GMT -5
Hmmm. I do see the other side though, and it's real. A DB likes to stalk or ambush an enemy, and then kill them quickly in a blast of rockets. The pinatas contribute to that 'big rocket blast' or home run swing as I once called it in another thread. When a DB commits, it's pretty important to get the kill quickly and cleanly. You don't want an injured enemy shooting at you from close range, while your pinatas reload and your Orkans trickle. That's just a mess, when you should be peacefully reloading and getting ready for the next kill. Sometimes a fatal mess. So if not having the pinatas means your rocket firepower isn't enough to give you clean kills against the enemies you face (and for everyone that's different, because of the level of your own gear, and of your enemies) then you really want the pinatas. For me I find aphids work better, but it depends. I'm going to level them to 9, see how i like them...I'm not a HUGE fan of Griffins... DB, I would wait for 1v1 encounters. I feel with Aphids, you kind of have to sneak alittle more instead of waiting for a good opportunity. |
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Post by War Child on May 6, 2017 13:24:21 GMT -5
I prefer pure breeds better
When using a DB,it's griffin
When using aphids,I'd go jesse
When using PDB,it either goes to rhino or galahad
My taste,thats all
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 6, 2017 16:12:15 GMT -5
Because, los breaks pins, not aphids. Therefore aphids are more versatile. Really not sure why I'm explaining basic game mechanics here. Any more foolish questions? No need to be rude. You're the one who suggested jumping as a mechanism I supposedly wasn't aware of, then talk about LOS, which is irrelevant if you're jumping! Anyway, you can keep your explanations of "basic game mechanics" if they come with abuse. Look, if you're going to go getting all bent out of shape everything you get called out for posting something stupid, perhaps you should stop posting stupid things. You don't appear to know how to get around the new flight pattern of aphids, despite being here for some time now. They jump, you nail em. You jump, you nail em. So I pointed out the foolishness of your rebuttal, which you persisted in defending. And now you're crying because I pointed out the foolishness of your replies? Gimme a break. |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on May 6, 2017 18:17:06 GMT -5
Orkans/aphids griffin.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 19:00:52 GMT -5
Aphids add a new dimension to your weapons. If you spray with your Piñatas, then Aphids could give you more damage. They unload very fast, so your aim needs to be precise and spot on. At least with the Orkans, you have some runway to get the aim right. With plasma, you can run against a wall when fighting Galahads and Rhinos. At least Aphids give you another option to bop them on the head.
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on May 7, 2017 1:36:15 GMT -5
No need to be rude. You're the one who suggested jumping as a mechanism I supposedly wasn't aware of, then talk about LOS, which is irrelevant if you're jumping! Anyway, you can keep your explanations of "basic game mechanics" if they come with abuse. Look, if you're going to go getting all bent out of shape everything you get called out for posting something stupid, perhaps you should stop posting stupid things. You don't appear to know how to get around the new flight pattern of aphids, despite being here for some time now. They jump, you nail em. You jump, you nail em. So I pointed out the foolishness of your rebuttal, which you persisted in defending. And now you're crying because I pointed out the foolishness of your replies? Gimme a break. You seem to mistake the ability to correct me, which is fine, with the ability to be rude, which isn't. My thanks to the other posters, who managed to point out the usefulness of aphids on a Griffin, without abuse. |
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on May 7, 2017 4:17:29 GMT -5
OK, I've spent a few hours testing out the Orkan/Aphid Griffin, and it's a lot cooler than I remember.  |
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Post by Paps on May 7, 2017 6:25:29 GMT -5
Dang skippy. Stuka uber alles.
Griffin-wise, at least.
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Post by mechtout on May 7, 2017 6:56:36 GMT -5
Why not both?
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 7, 2017 8:39:27 GMT -5
Look, if you're going to go getting all bent out of shape everything you get called out for posting something stupid, perhaps you should stop posting stupid things. You don't appear to know how to get around the new flight pattern of aphids, despite being here for some time now. They jump, you nail em. You jump, you nail em. So I pointed out the foolishness of your rebuttal, which you persisted in defending. And now you're crying because I pointed out the foolishness of your replies? Gimme a break. You seem to mistake the ability to correct me, which is fine, with the ability to be rude, which isn't. My thanks to the other posters, who managed to point out the usefulness of aphids on a Griffin, without abuse. Fine. Apologies extended. May 7, 2017 7:56:36 GMT -4 mechtout said: Why not both Because 1 is really good and the other is just "meh". For me anyways. If I were to run tarans on a griffin, it would *always* be paired with mags. Ymmv, caveat emptor and all that. |
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Post by Golden Sabre on May 7, 2017 8:53:01 GMT -5
I'll run griffs in any configuration for but this is what I run the most. I must say, out of all of them I prefer my RDB most.  |
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