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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 13, 2017 18:31:08 GMT -5
... put their nose into someone else's buttocks .... In the end, "SHUT UP AND PLAY"! To just bring this whole thing down a notch I have to ask: I was really tempted to leave "child..." in your quote but that would have been a bit too far.
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Post by blastronaut on Apr 13, 2017 18:47:59 GMT -5
You think I don't know what you are frustrated about or that I'm unable to convey that information? Spending the whole roundtable talking ONLY about MM would be very counter productive. Don't you want to know more about new bots, weapons, events, and plans for the future? I'm impartial, Dredd77 seems like a good guy but is very biased. I also understand the game better than Dredd77 . I've played straight-laced AND I've tanked. I've been in the Leaver Queue AND emerged from it. I investigated the details of the League Qualification process (with the help of other forum members not including Dredd77 ). ADDITIONALLY, I have been extremely forthcoming in sharing all my results with the entire community. TL:DR Dredd77 would only represent ~75% of the forum members whereas blastronaut would represent 100%. blastronaut makes a compelling point, but his numbers are off. He'd only have about a 5% edge over me. But man, what a 5% to represent... Before the Forum Rules changed there was a poll asking "Should Players Tank (Ditch)" and ~20-25% of respondents said YES. This may be an underestimation of the actual number, many have contacted me via PM because they fear being labeled with a giant scarlet letter "T". This is a perfect example of how your bias results in you spreading information that is false/misleading.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 19:08:21 GMT -5
New bots, weapons, maps, and game mechanics are vital to the future of any game, I'm pretty appalled you don't care about any of this. This would be nice to see in the future, but worthless if the MM is as fubar as it is now. Highest priority should be, what are their plans for the MM? At present it's not doing its intended job - matching people of like ability / skill. The leaver's queue, while putting a plaster on a bullet hole, hasn't really stabalised the MM. If anything, it's made it more difficult to get balanced matches due to the lower number of proper players. I'd love to know what their demographics are for the past 6 months based on player participation. My guess would be that it's taken a big downturn, thus the parley.
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Post by spawnreaper on Apr 13, 2017 19:14:09 GMT -5
blastronaut makes a compelling point, but his numbers are off. He'd only have about a 5% edge over me. But man, what a 5% to represent... Before the Forum Rules changed there was a poll asking "Should Players Tank (Ditch)" and ~20-25% of respondents said YES. This may be an underestimation of the actual number, many have contacted me via PM because they fear being labeled with a giant scarlet letter "T". This is a perfect example of how your bias results in you spreading information that is false/misleading. Lol this is why you 2 guys got my 2 votes cover the whole spectrum. However I'd guess more than 50 percent tank and that number will grow not shrink with current mm. With even more that have tanked a few times.
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 13, 2017 20:13:15 GMT -5
blastronaut makes a compelling point, but his numbers are off. He'd only have about a 5% edge over me. But man, what a 5% to represent... Before the Forum Rules changed there was a poll asking "Should Players Tank (Ditch)" and ~20-25% of respondents said YES. This may be an underestimation of the actual number, many have contacted me via PM because they fear being labeled with a giant scarlet letter "T". This is a perfect example of how your bias results in you spreading information that is false/misleading. Way back in 1970, the legendary and tragically late Hunter S. Thompson ran for the office of sheriff of Aspen, Colorado. He had a six-point platform which included proposals to rename Aspen as "Fat City", to rip up all the streets and replace them with bike paths, and to erect an old-fashioned platform-and-stocks on the courthouse lawn for "dishonest" drug dealers. "It will be the general philosophy of the Sheriff’s office," he wrote, "that no drug worth taking should be sold for money." Your posts in here remind me of one of the things that happened when Thompson squared off in debate against the incumbent, an ex-military crew-cut Republican. In preparation for the debate, Thompson shaved his head down to the skin, which permitted him to repeatedly refer to the Sheriff onstage that night as "my long-haired opponent." Vintage Thompson, the man was a true mad genius. This electioneering attack-ad stuff you've got here is great amusement, keep going. This may not be a universally-held position on this forum, blastronaut, but you're actually one of my top-ten favorite posters here. Unfortunately, however, the very characteristics that put you on that list also leave me incapable of taking your interest in this opportunity seriously. It's another wind-up, another hoot-and-holler distraction, another chance to charge at the ennemis du jour with a plunger raised aloft... and I'm totally okay with that. The world is a better place for the Vermin Supremes and Official Monster Raving Loony Parties of the World. They may not get my vote, but they always manage a few. And they definitely make the whole thing way more fun to watch. Carry on, good sir, carry on!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 21:04:11 GMT -5
Lets try to keep this civil and not derail it. The last thread on this tanked, and I was part of that, and it was not appreciated by some.+DethHilt+ We already know a lot about the MM 1) Pixo is tweaking it as needed 2) It seems to be point starved from the top 3) New points are added from the bottom 4) The consensus here is that we'd prefer to wait a little longer for a tighter spread in league points during matches. I'd like to know what Pixo plans do to with the MM in the near term and long term. They made vague promises of "great things" the new MM would allow them to do but the old MM wouldn't. What are those things and when can we expect to see them? I will outline to whoever gets the nod, what I find important, and in what order. There are plenty of things we dont know/like about the MM and leagues, and I think that may be most peoples primary concern. I not sure #1 in your list is happening, or if it is, its not going the way it should - i.e. the way we would like. I do agree with #4. New bots, weapons, maps, and game mechanics are vital to the future of any game, I'm pretty appalled you don't care about any of this. I never said I didnt care about what is in the above statement - which is incorrect. Please stick to the truth, when you are going to criticize me. I said "Last, with all the problems we are having, new bots, weapons, and the like, are at the bottom of my list." They are not my most important concerns, but they are on my list, so they must have some value, I must care about them, otherwise, they would be left out.
A roundtable of 15 people ?female dog?ing and moaning only about the MM would almost guarantee that no future roundtables would happen. It is my impression that you could very well be one of those people. I also already eluded to this potential situation.Pixonic has been spoon-feeding Dredd just the information that they want us to hear. It would be naive to think that they would give us anymore info, or type of info, regardless of who was the recipient.Do you really trust him to be asking questions that Pixonic may not want to answer? There may be tons of questions they dont want to answer. Theres no assurance you would do differently. Thing is, neither of you may know what questions they dont want to answer. Both of you might. So if there are a few of us there, it should get brought up. We did see how they responded in that recent Q&A about stuff.
Do you trust that he won't let the Pixonic rep side-step or flat out not answer your questions? .....wont let, wont let? If a PIX rep wants to side step a question, or fails/refuses to answer it, theres not a damn thing you, or anybody else can do about it. Nobody!
Dont like the way I voted, that is too bad. If you win, fine, if you lose fine. If you represent us, and screw it up we will know. You might as well be Pink after that. If you do a good job, you will be recognized for that. I dont care for PIX, and I blame them for where this game is. If our reps botch it, and make it worse, then I will blame them too. Been banned before, been dinged before, and Im in hot water now, so not really concerned about takin shots if someone ruins things.
In the end one has to consider, how well will the panel be received, and are they really doing this to improve the game, or placate the masses. Since no one reads minds, no one knows for sure. We shall find out. Maybe just sit tight, and let the votes go where they may. Ive cast mine, and even if it could be changed, it wouldnt be. Might as well move on to the next member, cause you are wasting time and energy on me!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 21:13:14 GMT -5
... put their nose into someone else's buttocks .... In the end, "SHUT UP AND PLAY"! To just bring this whole thing down a notch I have to ask: I was really tempted to leave "child..." in your quote but that would have been a bit too far. I was really tempted to state brown nosing is a less than polite and proper way!
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Post by scott on Apr 13, 2017 21:24:11 GMT -5
Is it possible to change your vote on this?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 21:26:19 GMT -5
Yes, click your green tick, then tick another one.
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Post by scott on Apr 13, 2017 21:47:21 GMT -5
After getting into a brief debate with causticgrip I find he avoids questions and doesn't represent my views so I would like to change my vote to blastronaut
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Post by scott on Apr 13, 2017 21:48:38 GMT -5
ty runamok
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 13, 2017 21:55:52 GMT -5
I would assume that whoever is selected to represent the forums would be discussing the topics & expressing the views of the community, not their own. Their opinions are important & they should weigh in on the topics that will be discussed over the weekend on the forums like everyone else, so as a community, we can try to find an average "best fit" solution to the issues. Just because someone is selected as a rep doesn't mean they have a free pass to push their own views. This thread is for selecting who will go, not what they will say. There will no doubt be plenty of other threads to express ideas/opinions on individual issues & I encourage everyone to speak up & be heard, all perspectives and ideas are worth hearing.
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 13, 2017 22:01:50 GMT -5
Just because someone is selected as a rep doesn't mean they have a free pass to push their own views. This thread is for selecting who will go, not what they will say. These two consecutive statements appear to contradict one another...? Bottom line is, we get to choose who attends, but if anyone think that that entitles them to expect what that person is going to talk about, they're simply mistaken. You could vote for a candidate, and they would be well within their rights to sit and try and talk about "awesome new ideas for skins" for two hours. I know I've stated that I intend to speak for the community, not myself. So have you, shaolinrogue. But that doesn't (necessarily) go for everyone on the list.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 13, 2017 22:30:15 GMT -5
Just because someone is selected as a rep doesn't mean they have a free pass to push their own views. This thread is for selecting who will go, not what they will say. These two consecutive statements appear to contradict one another...? Bottom line is, we get to choose who attends, but if anyone think that that entitles them to expect what that person is going to talk about, they're simply mistaken. You could vote for a candidate, and they would be well within their rights to sit and try and talk about "awesome new ideas for skins" for two hours. I know I've stated that I intend to speak for the community, not myself. So have you, shaolinrogue . But that doesn't (necessarily) go for everyone on the list. Fair point. I am guilty of assuming anyone chosen would feel it was their responsibility to represent the community, not themselves. I hate it when I deserve this meme.....
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Post by carnage on Apr 14, 2017 8:24:42 GMT -5
Those discussions look really too serious for me, honestly.
You know, I understand that there is passion and all, but ultimately, we are only talking about a game... Let's not forget it guys.
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 14, 2017 8:48:26 GMT -5
Those discussions look really too serious for me, honestly. You know, I understand that there is passion and all, but ultimately, we are only talking about a game... Let's not forget it guys.
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 14, 2017 8:52:35 GMT -5
Those discussions look really too serious for me, honestly. You know, I understand that there is passion and all, but ultimately, we are only talking about a game... Let's not forget it guys.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Apr 14, 2017 8:53:00 GMT -5
I voted. All done.
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Post by causticgrip on Apr 14, 2017 10:55:39 GMT -5
After getting into a brief debate with causticgrip I find he avoids questions and doesn't represent my views so I would like to change my vote to blastronaut I avoided nothing. You asked me about seal clubbing and my opinions and I told you three times that the devs answered for me Seal clubbing is the direct result of the league system being implemented. This is the only answer that holds any merit My personal views on this matter are irrelevant as the question was answered from the top and is the only answer Because you did not get your question answered in the way you wanted...3x.... You decided to act like a child there and here Which is why you are now blocked by me after creating drama where none was necessary. So now you will never enjoy the information I have to offer and now you have been exposed for your immaturity in two places Your question was answered, the conversation is now over Now pls, grow up and move on
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 14, 2017 11:43:40 GMT -5
After getting into a brief debate with causticgrip I find he avoids questions and doesn't represent my views so I would like to change my vote to blastronaut creating drama where none was necessary.
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Post by scott on Apr 14, 2017 20:03:26 GMT -5
After getting into a brief debate with causticgrip I find he avoids questions and doesn't represent my views so I would like to change my vote to blastronaut I avoided nothing. You asked me about seal clubbing and my opinions and I told you three times that the devs answered for me Seal clubbing is the direct result of the league system being implemented. This is the only answer that holds any merit My personal views on this matter are irrelevant as the question was answered from the top and is the only answer Because you did not get your question answered in the way you wanted...3x.... You decided to act like a child there and here Which is why you are now blocked by me after creating drama where none was necessary. So now you will never enjoy the information I have to offer and now you have been exposed for your immaturity in two places Your question was answered, the conversation is now over Now pls, grow up and move on Greg you reveal yourself yet again. You avoid answering a question on fb and say your answer is irrelevant yet you wish to represent the views of War Robots pilots here. You stated on facebook that you are only in this forum to get elected to represent War Robots pilots and you have no intension of contributing to this community, what are your motivations greg? You have already shown yourself to be unethical and now you block me after you insult me on fb when I was trying to having an honest conversation. You aren't interested in a discussion, you only want to dictate and silence anyone with opposing views. I can not respond there now so i encourage everyone who is interested is seeing this guy in action to look up the thread on fb where he is pleading with people to vote for him here and has provided links in EVERY forum multiple times.... It doesn't sound to me like you would make a very good representative, you are trying to steal an election by bussing people in greg.
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Post by ewing411 on Apr 14, 2017 22:50:38 GMT -5
Had to vote DLR. One-eighth of my political DNA is anarcist. I'm betting he will be able to knock them off balance enough to get answers they may have not intended to give.
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Post by SuperHero on Apr 15, 2017 21:08:39 GMT -5
It's interesting how some talk about statistics like it's a sure thing and assume inflation for their side and deflation for anything they oppose. I've been helping arrange the round table behind the scenes abut have been just sitting here observing as a mod. It amuses me how passionate the debate can be. Can I please remind all candidates to stick to the issues and not make references to other candidates personal attacks. It's been quite a clean fight so far, let's keep it that way. +DethHilt+ most here don't remember Pink anymore, lol
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 15, 2017 21:12:57 GMT -5
+DethHilt+ most here don't remember Pink anymore, lol
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 15, 2017 21:16:57 GMT -5
+DethHilt+ most here don't remember Pink anymore, lol
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 15, 2017 21:22:19 GMT -5
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 15, 2017 21:30:52 GMT -5
As I have said I'll speak with Pix about whatever the community as a whole decides is the priority & there are several other nominees that I would be happy to see go, I'm simply hoping for positive change. So far this is my take on what people are saying, derived from the various polls & threads that are referenced in the post. I am not saying the solution is perfect, but I think it's some good common ground for all to start prioritizing what we want Pixonic to address first. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/5125/talking-pix-fix?page=1&scrollTo=87006We can't just go with "Majority Rules" if there are sizable portions of the community that feel differently. We don't want to fracture the player base, and any suggestions need to keep the wide spectrum of people that play War Robots & Pixonic in mind.
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 15, 2017 21:52:16 GMT -5
Also, a chicken in every pot.
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 15, 2017 23:01:27 GMT -5
Congratulations to shaolinrogue, who will be joining me in expressing the voice of the community we've built here. Congratulations as well to a very strong showing from blastronaut.
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Post by blastronaut on Apr 15, 2017 23:06:08 GMT -5
Congratulations to shaolinrogue , who will be joining me in expressing the voice of the community we've built here. Congratulations as well to a very strong showing from blastronaut . Congratz shaolinrogue & Dredd77
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