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Post by jstantonn on Apr 11, 2017 9:30:05 GMT -5
I nominate Greg Hilton. Self proclaimed champion of all things War Robots... I'd also like to vote for Greg. Very accurate, thorough reviews and posts.
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Post by causticgrip on Apr 11, 2017 9:30:42 GMT -5
I nominate Greg Hilton. Self proclaimed champion of all things War Robots... I second that. Greg Hilton is my vote. I will accept the nomination. And if chosen will compile people's points and concern (which are RELEVANT and REASONABLE) to discuss with the devs. i genuinely do not wish to get involved, but someone needs to say something and be done or this game is dead. Considering the reliance so many have on my test reviews now I believe I can convey the concerns and possible solutions to the problems here. It's really up to Pixo to listen and adhere to the advice that will be given. the game is now truly and officially broken
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Post by ogt on Apr 11, 2017 11:12:06 GMT -5
Prominent players can suck it. They don't play on silver gold or diamond and don't understand our reallity. Fake chat. They don't experience games of 3 vs 2 because all the abandon game.
They should show the statistics of how many players are there now. I'm sure 90% are all silver and under . So give us priority. the little people must be heard. Down with prominent players , down with pixonic matchmaking. Down with super long upgrade times. Down with your mom's!!!!.
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Post by ArowanaBD on Apr 11, 2017 11:52:06 GMT -5
Can I chat whit pixonic ? I Would like to suggest a few things .
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Post by causticgrip on Apr 11, 2017 12:35:42 GMT -5
Prominent players can suck it. They don't play on silver gold or diamond and don't understand our reallity. Fake chat. They don't experience games of 3 vs 2 because all the abandon game. They should show the statistics of how many players are there now. I'm sure 90% are all silver and under . So give us priority. the little people must be heard. Down with prominent players , down with pixonic matchmaking. Down with super long upgrade times. Down with your mom's!!!!. R Your logic is flawed High tiered players and especially those who have been around since the beginning are whom you precisely want the feedback from silver tiered players all eventually become gold tier players of they continue playing. Focusing on a transitory stage is foolish and short sighted as the end game is to reach max. That is why the test being capped at 8 and your desire to fixate on that area will result in poor metrics and feedback, yielding inaccurate and broken results Best to refer to max tier and work backwards because from a business point, to rely on silver tier at the expense of gold will yield an anticlimactic end and cause lost of interest in the game Simply put... You're wrong
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Post by FunkenA on Apr 11, 2017 13:58:38 GMT -5
All i want is to be able to move freely up and down leagues via the hangar I choose to run on any day
I don't want to be shoe horned into one league based on the accumulative data of my entire portfolio
What I really want to play in a league where no heavies are allowed and its all run and gun fast bots. Doesn't have to be against sub lvl 30 players but my hangar I place for battle should determine the league I choose to play in IMO
haven't played in a month because the thought of playing seems like a chore rather than something I want to do
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 11, 2017 15:26:07 GMT -5
Prominent players can suck it. They don't play on silver gold or diamond and don't understand our reality. Fake chat. They don't experience games of 3 vs 2 because all the abandon game. They should show the statistics of how many players are there now. I'm sure 90% are all silver and under . So give us priority. the little people must be heard. Down with prominent players , down with pixonic matchmaking. Down with super long upgrade times. Down with your mom's!!!!. I have my main hanger at 10/10 and played it in both the old system & the new system. Under the old system I spent a ton of time in bronze/silver playing every bot/weapon load out under the sun. When leagues hit I started in private for some reason and have ground my way up to Diamond 3. When up.against 12/12 players I don't ditch & run, I stick it out and try to win anyway, sometimes works even. I also have 2 pet accounts which have been started since the League system...Both of them in Silver at L6 at the moment. I play around at 12/12 on the test server as well. If anything I think players that have experienced both MM systems & the majority of league levels will have a more complete perspective than someone who has hit the first stage of real "grinding" (L6/7) and thinks there is something wrong because there progression has slowed. Progression based MMOGs should always be balanced around the end game Meta, it's the whole point of progression based games and the most stable measuring stick. Silver & Below are too filled with sub-optimal pilots to try and balance things at that level, pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 16:08:15 GMT -5
Shaolin, Shaolin, Shaolin!
I just violated campaign reform, didn't I?
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 11, 2017 16:25:20 GMT -5
I second that. Greg Hilton is my vote. I will accept the nomination. And if chosen will compile people's points and concern (which are RELEVANT and REASONABLE) to discuss with the devs. i genuinely do not wish to get involved, but someone needs to say something and be done or this game is dead. Considering the reliance so many have on my test reviews now I believe I can convey the concerns and possible solutions to the problems here. It's really up to Pixo to listen and adhere to the advice that will be given. the game is now truly and officially broken . Not that I think this opportunity should be squandered on a pat on the back pix love fest but, an overly negative & advasarial "Your game is broken, you need to do this or your game will die" attitude won't achieve anything. We need to approach Pix as ally's working towards the same goals not as if they are "The Man" holding us down.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 18:23:05 GMT -5
Who is Greg Hilton?
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Post by causticgrip on Apr 11, 2017 18:23:39 GMT -5
Me. õ?s ??Ü$?î? ?R!P
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Post by causticgrip on Apr 11, 2017 18:29:19 GMT -5
I will accept the nomination. And if chosen will compile people's points and concern (which are RELEVANT and REASONABLE) to discuss with the devs. i genuinely do not wish to get involved, but someone needs to say something and be done or this game is dead. Considering the reliance so many have on my test reviews now I believe I can convey the concerns and possible solutions to the problems here. It's really up to Pixo to listen and adhere to the advice that will be given. the game is now truly and officially broken . Not that I think this opportunity should be squandered on a pat on the back pix love fest but, an overly negative & advasarial "Your game is broken, you need to do this or your game will die" attitude won't achieve anything. We need to approach Pix as ally's working towards the same goals not as if they are "The Man" holding us down. I'm sorry if you believe truth can be negative or positive. But the sad fact is the game is broken now. They broke it, meaning Pixo. And me stating this inconvenient fact to them is not me being negative. It's being honest and accurate and they need to hear it. i stated on the Player Page that with all the tanking, poor or low level players. Everyone leaving cause the games to end prematurely. Being overrun by the enemy and creating low reward counts and thus low silver rewards. This has in turn made impossible to keep up with expenses of upgrades. Even with premium. as a result, where's the incentive to play? There is none because Pixonic has made impossible to keep up with game expenses and thus the game is no longer fun to play. This is not opinion. This is fact. The game is broken. And that's the sad truth.
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Post by ogt on Apr 11, 2017 19:00:12 GMT -5
Progression based MMOGs should always be balanced around the end game Meta, it's the whole point of progression based games and the most stable measuring stick. Silver & Below are too filled with sub-optimal pilots to try and balance things at that level, pointless. Mr shaolinrogue. The game should be balanced most importantly at the level which players plays the most. Again I dare to say that 90% or more players are in recruit to silver leagues. I also can assure you that 90% of this players will not go to the meta game. The end game meta is over rates and pro ably only a 1% of the war robots population plays there. This is true for the vast majority of games from chess to starcraft to anything that comes into your mind. 12/12 hangar is for welfare people that can play 15 hours a day. We who work or study and can put some 8 hours a week ,want fun right now not in two years. You said it yourselves with 3 accounts you're on welfare we ain't.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 11, 2017 19:00:16 GMT -5
. Not that I think this opportunity should be squandered on a pat on the back pix love fest but, an overly negative & advasarial "Your game is broken, you need to do this or your game will die" attitude won't achieve anything. We need to approach Pix as ally's working towards the same goals not as if they are "The Man" holding us down. I'm sorry if you believe truth can be negative or positive. But the sad fact is the game is broken now. They broke it, meaning Pixo. And me stating this inconvenient fact to them is not me being negative. It's being honest and accurate and they need to hear it. i stated on the Player Page that with all the tanking, poor or low level players. Everyone leaving cause the games to end prematurely. Being overrun by the enemy and creating low reward counts and thus low silver rewards. This has in turn made impossible to keep up with expenses of upgrades. Even with premium. as a result, where's the incentive to play? There is none because Pixonic has made impossible to keep up with game expenses and thus the game is no longer fun to play. This is not opinion. This is fact. The game is broken. And that's the sad truth. I'm running a new account now & doing just fine in silver 3 with a level 6 hanger, income is matching my progression needs, I am hovering around 50% & sitting stable midway through the progress bar. In my own personal experience with my main account which was in silver II & I for a while at 7/8 & this one, matches that are full of tankers/clubbers/quitters are the exception, not the norm. Is it a problem that needs fixing, yes. Is it so bad that the game is unplayable making it impossible to progress over time... I don't feel it is. I view truth the same way as I view facts, it is what it is & whether it is positive or negative is a matter of perspective. However, when dealing with human beings emotions & bias come into play. Tact & words chosen can make all the difference between being heard & dismissed. We can be candid with Pix, no need to sugar coat anything but I would think it would be more beneficial if it was approached as a collaboration to a common goal rather than a stand off between two opposing forces. Even with the current situation which definitely slows down progression, War Robots "grinding" is nothing compared to traditional progression based MMOG's. I'm not sure how the mod's intend on compiling & prioritizing the communities concerns & ideas but at the end of the day, the priorities/view of the majority should be what is brought to pix rather than any one person's personal experience/view.
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Post by Old Boy on Apr 11, 2017 20:58:45 GMT -5
I nominate Greg Hilton too.
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Post by causticgrip on Apr 11, 2017 21:16:09 GMT -5
I'm not talking to Pixo at the moment. And there's no time for feeling here. The games on life support. If it wasn't? The devs would not be calling for this conversation. They know they're in trouble. And the fact they want to speak to us, after ignoring us for so long? Says a lot.
you may be doing smashingly in silver. But gold is a wreck.
And pls understand, I say this with no animus or hostility.
The time for tact is done. As Dredd wrote, this is going to be a frank discussion. Frankly, the game is broken. Pixo broke their own game. And that's just being frank.
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Post by HungryMonkey on Apr 11, 2017 21:24:21 GMT -5
I'd like to nominate Greg Hilton for the forum.
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Post by BLYTHE on Apr 11, 2017 22:05:51 GMT -5
I think shaolinrogue would be a fine job on our behalf. Thanks!
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Post by Paps on Apr 11, 2017 22:10:27 GMT -5
ogt Welfare, huh? I gotta disagree. Might be true in some cases, sure, I guess. But probably far from all. You're painting a porcelain figurine with a roller, Chief.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 11, 2017 22:12:28 GMT -5
I'm not talking to Pixo at the moment. And there's no time for feeling here. The games on life support. If it wasn't? The devs would not be calling for this conversation. They know they're in trouble. And the fact they want to speak to us, after ignoring us for so long? Says a lot. you may be doing smashingly in silver. But gold is a wreck. And pls understand, I say this with no animus or hostility. The time for tact is done. As Dredd wrote, this is going to be a frank discussion. Frankly, the game is broken. Pixo broke their own game. And that's just being frank. I did mention "I have my main hanger at 10/10 and played it in both the old system & the new system. Under the old system I spent a ton of time in bronze/silver playing every bot/weapon load out under the sun. When leagues hit I started in private for some reason and have ground my way up to Diamond 3" It's not like I skipped gold. I ground out my 3 leagues while I leveled my hanger from 7-10 then broke through to Diamond - If anything silver is a bigger mess due to the wide range of bot/equipment levels & player skill. Personal experience & opinions aside my original point was, I feel we will get further with Pixonic with a positive future-oriented conversation & attitude rather than being confrontational in our demeanor. That doesn't mean I don't want to address the same issues as you (I do), I just don't think negativity & ultimatums will get us anywhere. It would be great if this was the beginning of a regular round table with Pix instead of an experience they end up regretting.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 11, 2017 22:32:24 GMT -5
Mr shaolinrogue. The game should be balanced most importantly at the level which players plays the most. Again I dare to say that 90% or more players are in recruit to silver leagues. I also can assure you that 90% of this players will not go to the meta game. The end game meta is over rates and pro ably only a 1% of the war robots population plays there. This is true for the vast majority of games from chess to starcraft to anything that comes into your mind. 12/12 hangar is for welfare people that can play 15 hours a day. We who work or study and can put some 8 hours a week ,want fun right now not in two years. You said it yourselves with 3 accounts you're on welfare we ain't. 1. Fools make assumptions based on their own narrow experience & view of the world. I am an on call Network Engineer & operate my own home PC repair business on the side. I have worked full time since I was 15 & support a family of 5 with my income alone. 2. As for the vast majority of games from "chess to starcraft" (Neither of which are progression based), they are not balanced around being easy for beginners - You're expected to put the time in to get better if you want to beat more experienced players. As for "Progression Based" games, like WOW, gear & abilities are balanced around top tier content, not the midgame grind. Blizard doesn't nerf level 80 (or whatever it is now) gear to protect lower level players from the experienced ones. They do however, make separate content available for those who progress slower or want to revisit earlier gameplay which is what I think War Robots needs. 3. "Welfare People" are just people. Having a negative view of those not as fortunate as yourself is a matter of humanity & compassion but most of all are a political viewpoint that has nothing to do with this conversation or this forum.
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Post by causticgrip on Apr 11, 2017 22:41:41 GMT -5
I did mention "I have my main hanger at 10/10 and played it in both the old system & the new system. Under the old system I spent a ton of time in bronze/silver playing every bot/weapon load out under the sun. When leagues hit I started in private for some reason and have ground my way up to Diamond 3" It's not like I skipped gold. I ground out my 3 leagues while I leveled my hanger from 7-10 then broke through to Diamond - If anything silver is a bigger mess due to the wide range of bot/equipment levels & player skill. Personal experience & opinions aside my original point was, I feel we will get further with Pixonic with a positive future-oriented conversation & attitude rather than being confrontational in our demeanor. That doesn't mean I don't want to address the same issues as you (I do), I just don't think negativity & ultimatums will get us anywhere. It would be great if this was the beginning of a regular round table with Pix instead of an experience they end up regretting. No one has made ultimatums No one has made any negative comments. just facts. You can approach them how ever you wish should the opportunity present itself to you. I'm approaching them in a business frame of mind.
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