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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 25, 2017 17:15:22 GMT -5
The problem here is that you really don't know what you think you know. Ancilot die just like the rest of the bots. The only thing shields are doing these days is lowering damage scores, nothing more. Especially on android. That's part of my strategy. Hopefully by running medium shielded bots the Reds bypass me in favor of juicier targets like Fury, Griffin & Lancelot. Personally, I target the Leo if I have the choice between Leo, Carnage, or Galahad. Im very glad I'm not top tier if that's how it really goes. People choosing their targets based on what's easier damage rather than what would provide a strategic advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 18:56:53 GMT -5
That's part of my strategy. Hopefully by running medium shielded bots the Reds bypass me in favor of juicier targets like Fury, Griffin & Lancelot. Personally, I target the Leo if I have the choice between Leo, Carnage, or Galahad. Im very glad I'm not top tier if that's how it really goes. People choosing their targets based on what's easier damage rather than what would provide a strategic advantage. That's actually a smart strategy. If there's a big firefight going on in the middle of Shenzhen, then the plasma bots should target squishy bots, and the rocket bots should target shield bots. That's the simplistic idea, but the Ancilot changes the game. Then rocket bots should avoid wasting their missiles because you can't get past the Ancile, and the plasma bots need to break the shield. Now if there are multiple rocket bots, then everyone should focus fire on a single Ancilot. I could have a good game, then at the end, look at my score and see something low like 350K (my average is ~500K). I prolly spent most of the match breaking shields with my plasma, and trying to take down Ancilots and Carnages with my DB Griffin. Damage done to shields and Anciles don't count toward your score, so you don't earn any silver for all the hard work.
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 25, 2017 19:13:41 GMT -5
Im very glad I'm not top tier if that's how it really goes. People choosing their targets based on what's easier damage rather than what would provide a strategic advantage. That's actually a smart strategy. If there's a big firefight going on in the middle of Shenzhen, then the plasma bots should target squishy bots, and the rocket bots should target shield bots. That's the simplistic idea, but the Ancilot changes the game. Then rocket bots should avoid wasting their missiles because you can't get past the Ancile, and the plasma bots need to break the shield. Now if there are multiple rocket bots, then everyone should focus fire on a single Ancilot. I could have a good game, then at the end, look at my score and see something low like 350K (my average is ~500K). I prolly spent most of the match breaking shields with my plasma, and trying to take down Ancilots and Carnages with my DB Griffin. Damage done to shields and Anciles don't count toward your score, so you don't earn any silver for all the hard work. All I'm saying is it's selfish. If I have plasma, I'm going after the Carnage. Even though it's less damage than the Leo. It's my job to the team to take out Ancile bots. The ancilot changes things, and something with a thunder should be taking the shield down. If people simply go after what gives them a better score, that's not something I want to take part in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 19:51:09 GMT -5
That's actually a smart strategy. If there's a big firefight going on in the middle of Shenzhen, then the plasma bots should target squishy bots, and the rocket bots should target shield bots. That's the simplistic idea, but the Ancilot changes the game. Then rocket bots should avoid wasting their missiles because you can't get past the Ancile, and the plasma bots need to break the shield. Now if there are multiple rocket bots, then everyone should focus fire on a single Ancilot. I could have a good game, then at the end, look at my score and see something low like 350K (my average is ~500K). I prolly spent most of the match breaking shields with my plasma, and trying to take down Ancilots and Carnages with my DB Griffin. Damage done to shields and Anciles don't count toward your score, so you don't earn any silver for all the hard work. All I'm saying is it's selfish. If I have plasma, I'm going after the Carnage. Even though it's less damage than the Leo. It's my job to the team to take out Ancile bots. The ancilot changes things, and something with a thunder should be taking the shield down. If people simply go after what gives them a better score, that's not something I want to take part in. That's a good strategy to take out the weaker bot and the bigger threat assuming the Carnage has Thunders and is gunning for you. For the most part, it isn't a big deal to prioritize either one since one of your teammates can cover for you. The problem is that splash weapons are in short supply, not Tarans or Magnums. So a DB Griffin should take out a Galahad lest your teammates spend 2 minutes trying to focus fire and break the shield. This is a problem at lower levels since they don't have the gold to buy enough Orkans yet, and the Champion tier players because they don't run that many rocket setups. Being selfish would be staying in a Butch Treb the entire match, and not helping your team push by ejecting and choosing a brawler instead, just because he doesn't want to suffer any repair costs.
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 4, 2017 19:23:25 GMT -5
Bump. This thread should be sticky.
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Post by Russel on Apr 5, 2017 2:09:17 GMT -5
Coming from iOS, too "Terrible spider-bot" "Other bot"
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Post by Russel on Apr 5, 2017 2:30:12 GMT -5
But actually that is from _previous_ leagues season. In current season Lancelot dominates top players hangar. 26 out of 45 top players bots are Lancelots.
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Post by mmarius on Apr 5, 2017 4:10:50 GMT -5
A question: why the Griff? What makes it better than the Leo? Jump?
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Post by SATmaster728 on Apr 5, 2017 6:51:12 GMT -5
Can any one smell the overpowered bot? Cause I can...The physical shield and an Ancile is why its the number one bot. Simply a boring game of overwhelming Hit points.
The Lance does not seem overpowered based on the numbers (Android Legends).
- 95 Lancelots, costing 5,000 Au (6,500 Au if Taran Ancilot) - 82 Griffins, costing 1.5M Ag (+2.4K Au if Orkans).
A 5/6.5K Au bot better be more powerful than an Ag bot in its class, otherwise why bother?
If anything, going by numbers I would say the Griffin is overpowered for its cost, based on its prevalence at the very top tier of play and the complete absence of its Ag peers, the Leo and the Natasha. If the Griffin were balanced against the other heavies that cost the same, we should see Leos and Natashas in Legends. But the Griffin performs way Way WAY above its cost, to the point that some Legend League players run a 4-5 Griffin hangar and do great, obviously.
not really overpowered...any roles it runs, others can run better. its cost and versatility is why people run it.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Apr 5, 2017 7:00:57 GMT -5
not really overpowered...any roles it runs, others can run better. its cost and versatility is why people run it. no bot is quite as good at ambushing than the griffin IMHO.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Apr 5, 2017 7:18:40 GMT -5
not really overpowered...any roles it runs, others can run better. its cost and versatility is why people run it. no bot is quite as good at ambushing than the griffin IMHO. carnage???
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Apr 5, 2017 7:20:50 GMT -5
no bot is quite as good at ambushing than the griffin IMHO. carnage??? carnages are much more predictable than a jumping griffin.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 9:18:54 GMT -5
I just want to clarify: are you claiming that most of the people in Legend League/top-tier play are P2W? If so, that is interesting. War Robots is my first and only mobile game aside from chess and Words with Friends. I figured most people did it my way, playing every day for 18 months to get to the top/maxed hangar. Although I must confess that I have been paying $10/mo for Premium since December because to bring my hangar from 11 to 12 takes too long, the silver earnings are just too low. In your experience, do most people just buy tons (like over $50 worth) of Au just to get the "best" stuff right away? Most people don't spend money at all on mobile games. They just casually play multiple games. I suspect the vast majority of people with a hangar like 2 lancelots, 2 galahads, a fury, 4 orkans, 3 zeuses, and an ancile have made a large purchase, maybe even two, at some point. I have: Lancelot x2 Galahad x2 Gareth x1 Gepard x2 Ancile x2 Orkan x5 Zues x2 Aphid x4 Gekko x3 5th slot I have the tendency to be patient saving until I'm either <1000 Au, or under 500 Au (most common) and then I lose my patience and spend $5 or $10 to close out the sale, so to speak. No large purchases though. Pix had a sale once a while ago where Orkans were $5.99. I bought two at the time. I bought the two noob packages at the time (Gep and premium with Au miner) for $4.99 each. Before the MM switch I ran 1/10 Gep x2 (Aphid and DB) and 4/8 Boa x3 (Thunder Orkan and Thunder Taran). I was labeled a hybrid clubber, because that setup could take on clubbers, but was also a high powered clubber setup itself. During that time I was making 200+ Au a day. I think grand total I've spent somewhere around $10/month on the game and probably will continue if Pix resolves a couple of issues (tanking and MM matching). Did I pay with the intent on winning? Nope. I paid, because I wanted shiny new thingies and $10/month is less than I've paid for MMO subscriptions over the years. That's my marker really. Edit - Forgot to include Anciles
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Post by Russel on Apr 5, 2017 12:49:05 GMT -5
A question: why the Griff? What makes it better than the Leo? Jump? Better weapon setup and jump ability, yes. Plus ability to shoot from around the corner (to some extent). And two medium slots giving you more flexibility with your setup. But mostly it is because of jump. Think of it not as "elevation change", but like "rush" on steroids. You can basically dictate fighting range. Move closer if you have Orkan\Taran, run away if you are Molot\RDB and get out of ambush fast. And you can cap beacons, of course.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Apr 5, 2017 12:55:33 GMT -5
A question: why the Griff? What makes it better than the Leo? Jump? Better weapon setup and jump ability, yes. Plus ability to shoot from around the corner (to some extent). And two medium slots giving you more flexibility with your setup. But mostly it is because of jump. Think of it not as "elevation change", but like "rush" on steroids. You can basically dictate fighting range. Move closer if you have Orkan\Taran, run away if you are Molot\RDB and get out of ambush fast. And you can cap beacons, of course. for me, the cheapness and maneuverability. beofre anything else, i perfer balance.
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Post by Russel on Apr 5, 2017 13:30:59 GMT -5
Better weapon setup and jump ability, yes. Plus ability to shoot from around the corner (to some extent). And two medium slots giving you more flexibility with your setup. But mostly it is because of jump. Think of it not as "elevation change", but like "rush" on steroids. You can basically dictate fighting range. Move closer if you have Orkan\Taran, run away if you are Molot\RDB and get out of ambush fast. And you can cap beacons, of course. for me, the cheapness and maneuverability. beofre anything else, i perfer balance. Yep, for me Griffin+2xOrkan is far more powerful than Galahad.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Apr 6, 2017 6:28:57 GMT -5
for me, the cheapness and maneuverability. beofre anything else, i perfer balance. Yep, for me Griffin+2xOrkan is far more powerful than Galahad. the galahad is vulnerable to splash. i personally love killing pdb griffins with my plasmahad though.
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Post by dondanger on Apr 9, 2017 4:47:23 GMT -5
So it's a hangar full of orkan Griffins or pay to win. To be honest legend league sounds kind of boring. I'll continue to run my favorite mediums and whatever league I end up in that's fine. Same is going to happen with me as i like running RDB to kill those galahads and gareth and like when i deplete 2/3 of thier health in one volley and they are like hiding here and there.
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Post by dondanger on Apr 9, 2017 4:59:34 GMT -5
Yep, for me Griffin+2xOrkan is far more powerful than Galahad. the galahad is vulnerable to splash. i personally love killing pdb griffins with my plasmahad though. I kill those galahads with my RDB In one or two volley easily
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Post by SATmaster728 on Apr 10, 2017 6:29:10 GMT -5
the galahad is vulnerable to splash. i personally love killing pdb griffins with my plasmahad though. I kill those galahads with my RDB In one or two volley easily like i said, they are vulnerable to splash
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Post by mechtout on Apr 10, 2017 9:12:43 GMT -5
lot of legends run 4 energy weapons and only 1 missile. guessing because of all the anciles out there now
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Apr 15, 2017 1:11:53 GMT -5
Too much use lancelot
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Post by cephiraxite on Nov 21, 2017 13:33:14 GMT -5
Now Pixionic decided combine the whole lancelot but with greater maneuverability (Bulgasari built in shields+physical shield)
but of course top leagues this season now mostly compose of Haechis, probably due to its speed and 3 medium slots, some use bulgasaris but thats just some of the players i've observed.
I'd like to have a Haechi but I'm afraid the offer might expire after Halloween and I'm not getting any parts from raffle aside from some preemium time to bait me to make the most out of it
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 22, 2017 16:19:50 GMT -5
BRING OUT YER DEAD!!!!
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Post by Uhnonimis on Nov 22, 2017 18:00:53 GMT -5
BRRRAAAIIINNNZZZ!!!
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Post by weaksauce on Nov 22, 2017 18:18:29 GMT -5
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 22, 2017 22:37:14 GMT -5
Someday, I am going to go signup for some random forum and my first post is going to be an epic necro, and then I will never post there again.
But not today.
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