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Post by iamoblivion on Jan 12, 2020 19:03:13 GMT -5
Hi All
Ok I can finally get a new Titan...but should I?
Am I better off upgrading my KID?
What is the best Titan?
And finally can you cash in your Titans, and if so what do u get?
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Post by T34 on Jan 12, 2020 20:16:51 GMT -5
Kid<<<Arthur<Ming
Ming is no good without laser weapons and without decent leveling. Lots of fun tho.
If you dont buy platinum than Arthur is your titan of choice by a country mile ATM. Forget the kid unless you suspect cryos will proliferate.
Alternatively, sit on your Pt and see what happens next in this space.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 20:21:34 GMT -5
yeah who knows what pix is gonna do with titans
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 20:29:02 GMT -5
I’m of the mindset same as linearblade....I’m upgrading my Kid, use it for Leech/Ao Jun/Ares elimination.....As for Arthur, yes it may be stronger than Kid, but it moves at half speed, so not hard to get position on or away from as needed. Ming is the one I’d wait on for other choices for a premium Titan. I do want a second Titan so I have one in each hangar, and am rolling the dice that Pt will become a bit more available on the cheap. Tough choice, but I’m feeling good with my Kid wasting regular bots ez like
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Post by aaronc on Jan 12, 2020 20:41:54 GMT -5
I like the Arthur. It is slow, no doubt about that. But the shield is very strong and it the only bot I have that can take a hit from an Avenger armed Ao Jun (shield up!) without being crippled! Also a big fan of the gun locations, I was always hitting cover with the Kids Beta weapons, and the 'always on' Alpha weapon. I'd prefer a Ming but just couldnt see myself getting there so Arthur it is. He is a late drop to hold a position or support team mates.
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Post by maverick on Jan 12, 2020 21:19:43 GMT -5
Kid<<<Arthur<Ming Ming is no good without laser weapons stealth and without decent leveling. Lots of fun tho. If you dont buy platinum than Arthur is your titan of choice by a country mile ATM. Forget the kid unless you suspect cryos will proliferate. Alternatively, sit on your Pt and see what happens next in this space. Fixed for ya
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Post by iamoblivion on Jan 12, 2020 21:41:32 GMT -5
Thanks guys, anyone know if you can trade in Titans or Titan weapons for platinum?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 23:40:23 GMT -5
I need to correct the "Ao Ming needs 600m Plasma" saying going around... Ao Ming might be the best titan to use 600m Plasma with, but it is also excellent with the default 500m machine guns. Excellent.The 4x machine guns have a very high DPS and are my Arthur/Kid/Leech/Ao Jun/T-Falcon/Phantom killer of choice. If played carefully, an Ao Ming may only need a few levels of Hull upgrades to go a long way. Use cover (while walking AND flying), shoot over the top of buildings and obstacles (you can even shoot over tall buildings while flying), and be aware that when you fly in the open (without cover) almost everyone within range can hit you. That could even mean up to 6 reds shooting you at once. (Alternatively, you can save your team by soaking up fire). Flying and landing cannot be locked down, so you can fly up, shoot, and then fall down behind cover unhindered. The two biggest problems I face are Ao Juns and Ares trains, with skilled Purple Shield users a pain too. Thanks guys, anyone know if you can trade in Titans or Titan weapons for platinum? I was able to sell my spare Titan weapons for Silver, but they haven't implemented the selling of Titans yet.
Since Titans are new, I'm not sure if they'll keep changing their stats, and their weapon stats. It's the main reason I don't want to suggest or recommend anything regarding them. Though they lack burst damage, the machine guns can currently output maybe 5 to 10 times as much DPS as 500m rockets and 600 plasma when used at a closer range, and they have an excellent target spread, ...but I don't know if it'll last.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 12, 2020 23:48:28 GMT -5
@iamwalleyehsyou mind weighing in here about the Kid?
In fact, may be worthwhile for you to do one of your great threads presenting details of your analysis and why you chose Kid with Tsar Rupture.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 0:05:38 GMT -5
@iamwalleyehsyou mind weighing in here about the Kid? In fact, may be worthwhile for you to do one of your great threads presenting details of your analysis and why you chose Kid with Tsar Rupture. or just watch Manni's video on it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 0:19:43 GMT -5
One of the few videos with an Ao Ming utilising machine guns...
I've set the video to start from 6:23.
Titan Slayer... Titan Slayer... Godlike... Titan Slayer... Titan Slayer...
...that is pretty much what my machine gun Ao Ming is like, but in low-level lite form (I sometimes have to spend a bit of time grounded as I lick my wounds).
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 13, 2020 0:28:07 GMT -5
@iamwalleyehsyou mind weighing in here about the Kid? In fact, may be worthwhile for you to do one of your great threads presenting details of your analysis and why you chose Kid with Tsar Rupture. or just watch Manni's video on it Naa, Robbie can give a better well-calculated synopsis on why he specifically chose Tsar Rupture Kid from all the choices he had. I like Manni, but I place more weight on Robbie’s investigations
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Post by T34 on Jan 13, 2020 0:59:06 GMT -5
Gents, OP is not a whale by the looks of things. Probably a F2P or a minnow. No point in talking about L150 Mings and maxed Kids with Tzars and stuff. Most likely what OP needs is the best affordable titan from a 25 pt per day income. Best maxed titan is a whale question.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 1:02:47 GMT -5
At low levels (like mine) Ao Ming is fun (for a Titan) but the targeting can be impossible on some maps and it’s as soft as butter too. However having come up against some maxed ones there’s definitely potential there...
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Post by milty72 on Jan 13, 2020 1:32:51 GMT -5
@iamwalleyehsyou mind weighing in here about the Kid? In fact, may be worthwhile for you to do one of your great threads presenting details of your analysis and why you chose Kid with Tsar Rupture. or just watch Manni's video on it
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 13, 2020 2:15:03 GMT -5
Gents, OP is not a whale by the looks of things. Probably a F2P or a minnow. No point in talking about L150 Mings and maxed Kids with Tzars and stuff. Most likely what OP needs is the best affordable titan from a 25 pt per day income. Best maxed titan is a whale question. We don’t know, but the point is, it is an investment whether they buy platinum or only use free earned Pt. Either way, one has to make a decision which titan they want, which weapons they want. By informing themselves they can make a plan. By people contributing here any information, even about higher level titans, gives some perspective for goal setting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 2:40:21 GMT -5
I have a dedicated Titan killer, it's a Triple Avenger Falcon. Given how wonky the targeting is on Titans, it's really quite easy to weave in between their machine guns or slope off behind cover.
Kid goes down pretty quickly if you watch for the main weapon (DR mode), Arthur's shield cracks eventually but Ming is dead meat in the air. I guess that people will learn to run/level them eventually, but I actually look forward to seeing them now.
Arthur for me.
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Post by biancabashbots on Jan 13, 2020 9:51:21 GMT -5
Personally I prefer the Kid because I feel its the best fighter hands down.
I feel its much more effective than arthur for me because Ive upgraded the stove/speed and the hull since the start. Now it is a total Tsunami clearing reds out of the way- backing them up as they die all around it.
It seems that Im still getting kills from players who for some reason assume that the burnout isnt going to kill them? I am admittedly a bit confused about why anyone tries rushing my Kid, especially when they are coming in a second or third bot by the same driver, at some point they gotta realize that burn is no joke, no? Especially on maps like Carrier where lots of leeches and twinkle toe bots like to hide and scurry around in the lower decks. Or the moon map over center beacon. The speed at which it moves that 200m circuimference of fire makes it one of my favorite bots to use so when i can get another Titan for my 2nd hangar, Its gonna be another kidd (and im gonna replace his betas with the rockets).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 10:15:01 GMT -5
Gents, OP is not a whale by the looks of things. Probably a F2P or a minnow. No point in talking about L150 Mings and maxed Kids with Tzars and stuff. Most likely what OP needs is the best affordable titan from a 25 pt per day income. Best maxed titan is a whale question. We don’t know, but the point is, it is an investment whether they buy platinum or only use free earned Pt. Either way, one has to make a decision which titan they want, which weapons they want. By informing themselves they can make a plan. By people contributing here any information, even about higher level titans, gives some perspective for goal setting. I do believe we know something “better” will always come out, later. You are an excellent tactician, so perhaps placing the current three Titans into “roles” would help. BTW, I would like the Ming, maybe make new friends......
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Post by linearblade on Jan 13, 2020 20:31:53 GMT -5
Hi All Ok I can finally get a new Titan...but should I? Am I better off upgrading my KID? What is the best Titan? And finally can you cash in your Titans, and if so what do u get? They are all pretty good for different things. I prefer the kid, because it’s fast. But drop enough bucks, and all are solid
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Post by aaronc on Jan 13, 2020 21:06:25 GMT -5
As a primarily F2P player(entirely F2P when it comes to Platinum) are the rocket launchers worth saving for?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 0:15:07 GMT -5
If you are wanting to spend Platinum instead of save it, unless they change Titans/weapons again, or finally bring out new Titans, here's my recommendation to myself (in consideration to my own game): My own Titan recommendation & advice to myself:- Get an Ao Ming first. (Consider Arthur for later, as a third Titan.)
- Use standard machine guns (use Kid's guns instead if they are levelled), and use it as a skilled brawler. Though inaccurate, they do a LOT of damage, especially at close range. (Consider Plasma for later.)
- Level your Ao Ming's hull a few times, I chose to level my hull to Level 14 myself. You initially get a lot armor and damage reduction for very little Platinum. This will enable to fire your 2-4x machine guns for a lot longer, and will let you play a lot harder without dying.
- Now level up one of the Alpha Vengeance machine gun to Level 25. This will let at least one of your weapons have 100% defence mitigation.
At that point, your Ao Ming should perform very well against most threats and various avenues can be looked into. If you upgrade or change the weapons, you can swap them between Ao Ming and Kid (and perhaps later, Arthur) at will, as you please, using them on whichever Titan is more fun for you at the time: Kid, Arthur or Ao Ming. Mini-Titan recommendation to myself:- Get an Ao Ming
- Only level it's Hull (to around Level 14)
- Then level one of the Vengeance weapons to max Level 25 for 100% defence mitigation on it.
(The main reason for focus upgrading one single Alpha weapon first is the 100% defence mitigation. The fact that Kid and Arthur only use 1 Alpha weapon is a secondary bonus.)
A machine gun Ao Ming in action (start video from 6:23):
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Post by iamoblivion on Jan 14, 2020 0:47:24 GMT -5
Done, Ao Ming it is...thanks everyone
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:15:46 GMT -5
Personally I prefer the Kid because I feel its the best fighter hands down. I feel its much more effective than arthur for me because Ive upgraded the stove/speed and the hull since the start. Now it is a total Tsunami clearing reds out of the way- backing them up as they die all around it. It seems that Im still getting kills from players who for some reason assume that the burnout isnt going to kill them? I am admittedly a bit confused about why anyone tries rushing my Kid, especially when they are coming in a second or third bot by the same driver, at some point they gotta realize that burn is no joke, no? Especially on maps like Carrier where lots of leeches and twinkle toe bots like to hide and scurry around in the lower decks. Or the moon map over center beacon. The speed at which it moves that 200m circuimference of fire makes it one of my favorite bots to use so when i can get another Titan for my 2nd hangar, Its gonna be another kidd (and im gonna replace his betas with the rockets). Little late to this thread. I upgraded the free titan, but focused all my Pt on the 3 weps. Usually the ALpha wep first, then the 2 Beta weps. Very little on the Stove Top, and Speed. Put a few points onto the Hull/ and whatever the other thing is. Sucks there are 6 things to upgrade, but only 3 choices. What every happen to having it my way? Hmmm. Not a big fan of the Stove Top. In champs, most Leeches will bait me to activate, then 「fluffernutter」ing scurry away. Then i feel like a fool. And the radius is 100m, not 200m. Tried to verify on the wiki just now, but couldn't find the numbers. But the leeches always dance around 100m from my titan. I'd give the edge to the Arhur rn. Not many players know how to counter it, and by the time they come out, all the hard counters are used up (Ember Ao Jun, etc). Since i have a different playstyle for my Titan (different upgrade path, only spent Pt on weps), I gotta hide and corner shoot all the time if I want to survive. I don't use it like a Tank, because it'll be chopped down like a tree in no time. So it's really important to scope out some good cover. That's why I spent the weeks using it when it first came out, to get a jump start on it. If i can kill 1 TFalc or bring a Leech down to its LSTD before dying, i'm happy. If I see an Art or 2, then i know my kid doesn't stand a chance. THe DR mitigation doesn't help.
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Post by maverick on Jan 18, 2020 20:44:02 GMT -5
I need to correct the "Ao Ming needs 600m Plasma" saying going around... Ao Ming might be the best titan to use 600m Plasma with, but it is also excellent with the default 500m machine guns. Excellent.The 4x machine guns have a very high DPS and are my Arthur/Kid/Leech/Ao Jun/T-Falcon/Phantom killer of choice. I'll put my Ao Jun against your Ming anyday
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Post by maverick on Jan 18, 2020 21:10:25 GMT -5
I'll put my Ao Jun against your Ming anyday Heaps of people do. I often have to deal with multiple Ao Juns every match. It's like Rock vs Scissors, or Scissors vs Paper. It's like Ao Jun are almost designed to kill Titans. Ao Juns can't even be hit by an Ao Ming while it's in stealth flight for a very long time with it's two heavy weapons and flame. Then it can double Phase Shift away and Last Stand too. They're one of the most difficult bots for my Ao Ming to deal with, and usually the ones I have to concentrate on Last Standing / killing off first. It's even harder when there's multiple at once and I can barely get a lock on anything I want to. I don't run PS or Last Stand and I'll take you on alone. And still kill AM.
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Post by balrog89 on Jan 18, 2020 21:30:31 GMT -5
Hi All Ok I can finally get a new Titan...but should I? Am I better off upgrading my KID? What is the best Titan? And finally can you cash in your Titans, and if so what do u get? Did anyone give you a good answer? If you still have not made up your mind, this is my opinion. I got the Ming. Used a gift card that my son gave me for Christmas and bought it. I used what Pt I had saved, until that point, to do some leveling. I most likely should have stuck with the Kid to be honest. I hardly ever see the need to drop my Titan. At this point, it doesn't matter which one you get. It will be fodder for AJs. The default weapons on the Ming are just....meh and I do not feel like seeing how much it would take to make them "not meh". Authors are everywhere now, but are they really that much better than the Kid? If people who saved for the Author would have put that 500 Pt into the Kid, that Kid would be fairly strong. Much stronger than a base Author. Kids do make really good beacon bombs. Drop it on a contested beacon, hit the stove button and reap the damage rewards. Basically, I have stopped upgrading my Ming. I have a few hundred Pt now. I have no idea what I will do with it. Ask yourself "do I really need that Titan" before you spend that Pt. I bet the answer is no. Knowing Pix and the way they do things, good stuff for that Pt is right around the corner. Hopefully I will have a good chunk of it by then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:45:47 GMT -5
Hi All Ok I can finally get a new Titan...but should I? Am I better off upgrading my KID? What is the best Titan? And finally can you cash in your Titans, and if so what do u get? Did anyone give you a good answer? If you still have not made up your mind, this is my opinion. I got the Ming. Used a gift card that my son gave me for Christmas and bought it. I used what Pt I had saved, until that point, to do some leveling. I most likely should have stuck with the Kid to be honest. I hardly ever see the need to drop my Titan. At this point, it doesn't matter which one you get. It will be fodder for AJs. The default weapons on the Ming are just....meh and I do not feel like seeing how much it would take to make them "not meh". Authors are everywhere now, but are they really that much better than the Kid? If people who saved for the Author would have put that 500 Pt into the Kid, that Kid would be fairly strong. Much stronger than a base Author. Kids do make really good beacon bombs. Drop it on a contested beacon, hit the stove button and reap the damage rewards. Basically, I have stopped upgrading my Ming. I have a few hundred Pt now. I have no idea what I will do with it. Ask yourself "do I really need that Titan" before you spend that Pt. I bet the answer is no. Knowing Pix and the way they do things, good stuff for that Pt is right around the corner. Hopefully I will have a good chunk of it by then. Sorry to hear this, my friend...however, you have my thanks for the straight shooting. I have been upgrading my Kid, and been thinking I’ve screwed up, but-as you say- when I drop Kid, it does the job. In fact, I don’t have a lot of issues with Ao Jun, but usually have multiple reds coming after me....and yes, Stove is pretty cool. If Titans get Quantum Radar, I’m in! Here’s to hoping your Titan days get better!
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Post by balrog89 on Jan 18, 2020 21:54:09 GMT -5
Did anyone give you a good answer? If you still have not made up your mind, this is my opinion. I got the Ming. Used a gift card that my son gave me for Christmas and bought it. I used what Pt I had saved, until that point, to do some leveling. I most likely should have stuck with the Kid to be honest. I hardly ever see the need to drop my Titan. At this point, it doesn't matter which one you get. It will be fodder for AJs. The default weapons on the Ming are just....meh and I do not feel like seeing how much it would take to make them "not meh". Authors are everywhere now, but are they really that much better than the Kid? If people who saved for the Author would have put that 500 Pt into the Kid, that Kid would be fairly strong. Much stronger than a base Author. Kids do make really good beacon bombs. Drop it on a contested beacon, hit the stove button and reap the damage rewards. Basically, I have stopped upgrading my Ming. I have a few hundred Pt now. I have no idea what I will do with it. Ask yourself "do I really need that Titan" before you spend that Pt. I bet the answer is no. Knowing Pix and the way they do things, good stuff for that Pt is right around the corner. Hopefully I will have a good chunk of it by then. Sorry to hear this, my friend...however, you have my thanks for the straight shooting. I have been upgrading my Kid, and been thinking I’ve screwed up, but-as you say- when I drop Kid, it does the job. In fact, I don’t have a lot of issues with Ao Jun, but usually have multiple reds coming after me....and yes, Stove is pretty cool. If Titans get Quantum Radar, I’m in! Here’s to hoping your Titan days get better! My Titan doesn't really suck. I just do not find them to be much better than regular bots. I like speed my man. Titans....they really take forever just to go 100M. Ain't nobody got time for that!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:56:07 GMT -5
Sorry to hear this, my friend...however, you have my thanks for the straight shooting. I have been upgrading my Kid, and been thinking I’ve screwed up, but-as you say- when I drop Kid, it does the job. In fact, I don’t have a lot of issues with Ao Jun, but usually have multiple reds coming after me....and yes, Stove is pretty cool. If Titans get Quantum Radar, I’m in! Here’s to hoping your Titan days get better! My Titan doesn't really suck. I just do not find them to be much better than regular bots. I like speed my man. Titans....they really take forever just to go 100M. Ain't nobody got time for that! Truth! Maybe I like Kid because I like Fenrir....takes all kinds, I suppose!
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