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Post by Deadeye on Jan 2, 2020 16:06:58 GMT -5
I have both Fenrir pilots (neither leveled) and am considering building one (don't have rn) after my current project. I want to know if anyone runs these pilots and want to know whether Santa or Blondie is better and why. Blondie gives 20% faster shield recharge which is pretty good and since I'd get a Fortifier module, that would be 40% faster recharge, but I can't find out the base recharge rate to begin with so I don't know how important that would be. Santa, on the other hand, gives 20 Def pts. That takes the Fenrir from 100 Def pts to 120, which increases his DR from 50% to 55%. That's halfway to T-falc land, but I'm just not sure it's better. Most of the time I encounter a Fenrir, it's in DR mode and recharging it's shield, so I think I would want Santa, but I want to hear what actual users say.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 2, 2020 17:20:57 GMT -5
I’m hoping for Angry Santa consensus, since I won it in one of my daily openings and started leveling it in a Hellburner while I WS the Fenrir. I also have Linda, but it seems like the extra DP is the better skill.
Since most of my current builds are starving for light weapons, I have plenty of weapon options for it, including near maxed Glory Storm.
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Post by T-Town Striker on Jan 2, 2020 18:20:11 GMT -5
Interesting topic for me to follow as this past weekend I drew Fenrir from the Super Chest and low and behold I drew Santa Pilot from the Chest the next day ( coincidence?). I’ve seriously thought of using my AG to level the bot as I like you guys at times admire Fenrir when I encounter the Beast. Right now I’m thinking my MK 1 lvl 12 Scourge with the new Cryo heavy weapon Glacier. I’ll be watching for I’m sure some interesting replies to the OP.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 18:40:34 GMT -5
Interesting topic for me to follow as this past weekend I drew Fenrir from the Super Chest and low and behold I drew Santa Pilot from the Chest the next day ( coincidence?). I’ve seriously thought of using my AG to level the bot as I like you guys at times admire Fenrir when I encounter the Beast. Right now I’m thinking my MK 1 lvl 12 Scourge with the new Cryo heavy weapon Glacier. I’ll be watching for I’m sure some interesting replies to the OP. Costs a lot to upgrade, but it hates fire...all fire. Until L9/10 it is soft, and really needs MK2 to shine, best I can tell. I like this......
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 2, 2020 18:48:52 GMT -5
Separate from the Legendary Pilot vote, I will call on linearblade to confirm that he prefers Ghost Lancelot and called Fenrir a green-crack junkie bot. I’m paraphrasing of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 19:28:34 GMT -5
If you plan to level the pilot and run the Fenrir with armor like a T-Falcon (with Advanced Repair module, Dodger skill, and even Foolhardy Quartermaster skill): - Nicolas Wodanson
- Regular Pilot
- Adrian Chong (one less defensive skill)
- Linda Cano (there are better regular skills to choose from)
My previous calculations showed a Nicolas Wodanson Fenrir only falling 17% short of a T-Falcon's effective armor at max. I have sometimes killed the entire red team (and sent them all back to home base) when rushing centre beacon with mine.
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Post by Joopiter on Jan 2, 2020 19:57:32 GMT -5
Wow that is a good analysis @stardustrial ! That's making me take another look at that thing.... what a monster. Deadeye I've had several folks tell me that linda's regen skill is hardly noticeable, if at all. And several YT'er videos have commented that the Adrian pilot is better on on the fen. The santa pilot is what I'd lean towards seeing stardustrial posted above. What a tank! I've won the reindeer fen and santa so far in this event and I'm tempted. This video from xCHIEFx also peaked my interest. That set-up is wrecking reds!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 4:44:32 GMT -5
Thank you.
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Post by derps on Jan 3, 2020 12:48:11 GMT -5
Errr, well ???Stardust??? kinda said it all... Santa is probably better. Id assume so based on how the shield works versus how often you are tanking transformed into the DR mode... I find that the shield recharges plenty fast on its own. I have never really had to clench a skirmish based on my shield not fully charging in time. It is fast enough, and in a pinch it usually is charged enough already. That said, i do not have either pilot, but based on my usage of Fenrir and playstyle, id personally go for Santa.
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Post by Garbage game on Jan 3, 2020 12:56:36 GMT -5
I have both Fenrir pilots (neither leveled) and am considering building one (don't have rn) after my current project. I want to know if anyone runs these pilots and want to know whether Santa or Blondie is better and why. Blondie gives 20% faster shield recharge which is pretty good and since I'd get a Fortifier module, that would be 40% faster recharge, but I can't find out the base recharge rate to begin with so I don't know how important that would be. Santa, on the other hand, gives 20 Def pts. That takes the Fenrir from 100 Def pts to 120, which increases his DR from 50% to 55%. That's halfway to T-falc land, but I'm just not sure it's better. Most of the time I encounter a Fenrir, it's in DR mode and recharging it's shield, so I think I would want Santa, but I want to hear what actual users say. Thanks in advance. This guy
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Post by Deadeye on Jan 3, 2020 16:44:36 GMT -5
If you plan to level the pilot and run the Fenrir with armor like a T-Falcon (with Advanced Repair module, Dodger skill, and even Foolhardy Quartermaster skill): - Nicolas Wodanson
- Regular Pilot
- Adrian Chong (one less defensive skill)
- Linda Cano (there are better regular skills to choose from)
My previous calculations showed a Nicolas Wodanson Fenrir only falling 17% short of a T-Falcon's effective armor at max. I have sometimes killed the entire red team (and sent them all back to home base) when rushing centre beacon with mine. That's great! It's as I expected and with Santa, the Tough Guy, Leg skin and Arm Exp skills are that much better. I don't have any HAKs yet (and probably won't for a while), but anything that stacks like that has got to be better. Now I just need to figure the weapon loadout I want...I'm really leaning toward Glory/Igniter...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 17:51:34 GMT -5
The sad truth is, the pilot makes no difference when AJs’ are aknockin’ at the door.......
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Post by slugpug on Jan 4, 2020 0:24:42 GMT -5
The sad truth is, the pilot makes no difference when AJs’ are aknockin’ at the door....... Yep, I got a mk2 maxed Fen with 2 maxed Heavy Armor Kit, and Anti Control. If I get caught in the open by even a moderately leveled Ao Jun it’s off to an early grave. Still love the bot though, if your not a Ao Jun or a Maxed Leech your dead 1 on 1. I recently drew the Santa pilot but I’m not sure if it’s worth all the time and gold to get back to were I currently am with a 6 skill regular pilot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 7:03:33 GMT -5
The sad truth is, the pilot makes no difference when AJs’ are aknockin’ at the door....... Yep, I got a mk2 maxed Fen with 2 maxed Heavy Armor Kit, and Anti Control. If I get caught in the open by even a moderately leveled Ao Jun it’s off to an early grave. Still love the bot though, if your not a Ao Jun or a Maxed Leech your dead 1 on 1. I recently drew the Santa pilot but I’m not sure if it’s worth all the time and gold to get back to were I currently am with a 6 skill regular pilot. Running Leadhose....love it! As you say, 1 on1 Ao Jun and Leech better not miss, everyone else better run/PS.... If it wasn’t for all the AJs’, Fen is my #1 bot, or maybe #2, behind my Corona/Spark Gary....can’t believe how well Gary does in this meta Another good point, discussed in the past, is dropping gold to “catch up” new Legendary Pilot when they drop to replace regular pilot/skills....total BS ripoff by Pix. I would expect nothing less from them.......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 7:25:45 GMT -5
I recently drew the Santa pilot but I’m not sure if it’s worth all the time and gold to get back to were I currently am with a 6 skill regular pilot. This is where I'm at too. It costs 18,000 gold and a lot of time to bring a Level 1 pilot to Level 70. Is it worth it for a * currently* kickass bot that may not be relevant into the future? It'd cost so much to upgrade Nicolas Wodanson and I have a lot to contemplate first. And I'm still not done levelling up a regular pilot for them at the moment. This is the first pilot I bought and they're still not at level 70 yet: Their final promotion was 7,500 Gold, resulting in 18,000 Gold total. But the time and money put into their development can be useful for any bot they choose to pilot. They used to pilot a Lancelot and Mender. I'm currently working on maxing 2 regular pilots (ideal for bots like Fenrir and Mender) and 2 Adrian Chongs (ideal for bots like Behemoth and Ao Jun).
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Post by slugpug on Jan 4, 2020 9:36:34 GMT -5
I think the worst part of the whole deal was thinking I’d be safe fully investing in a non Legendary Pilot for my Fen because let’s face it, I don’t care how you swing it, Cano is just terrible.
And then they go ahead and break the mold and release a 2nd Legendary Pilot that is actually useful and desirable.....
And then to make things worse I win him for free....
Nope Pix, I’m onto project Behemoth now...
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 5, 2020 22:02:25 GMT -5
I think the worst part of the whole deal was thinking I’d be safe fully investing in a non Legendary Pilot for my Fen because let’s face it, I don’t care how you swing it, Cano is just terrible. And then they go ahead and break the mold and release a 2nd Legendary Pilot that is actually useful and desirable..... And then to make things worse I win him for free.... Nope Pix, I’m onto project Behemoth now... Be strong, stick to your plan. That’s how great hangers are built. But this fugly SOB is on track to get a slot in my 2nd string hanger. Legendary Pilot Angry Santa demands it.
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Post by Deadeye on Jan 6, 2020 9:01:13 GMT -5
I think the worst part of the whole deal was thinking Iâd be safe fully investing in a non Legendary Pilot for my Fen because letâs face it, I donât care how you swing it, Cano is just terrible. And then they go ahead and break the mold and release a 2nd Legendary Pilot that is actually useful and desirable..... And then to make things worse I win him for free.... Nope Pix, Iâm onto project Behemoth now... Be strong, stick to your plan. Thatâs how great hangers are built. But this fugly SOB is on track to get a slot in my 2nd string hanger. Legendary Pilot Angry Santa demands it. Almost looks like the Sinister Glacier will have a place to rest on the Giftbringer antlers. lol! Love the "I won this 「dookie」" build. The Yan-di Coronas match surprisingly well with the Fen too.
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Post by Desc440 on Jan 6, 2020 14:34:37 GMT -5
I think it's pretty well agreed upon that Woody is the superior choice.
As for loadouts, I've tried almost all close range-ish Fenrir setups and by far my favorite has been pure leadhose. A lot of people run shotties but in my experience that just makes you Ao Jun food.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 15:58:42 GMT -5
Avenger/Corona/Pulsar was my all-purpose Fenrir build with 600m lockdown.
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Post by linearblade on Jan 8, 2020 5:21:27 GMT -5
Separate from the Legendary Pilot vote, I will call on linearblade to confirm that he prefers Ghost Lancelot and called Fenrir a green-crack junkie bot. I’m paraphrasing of course. No, that’s pretty accurate. Sorry left my iPad at my friends house a 100 miles away. Very nice war robots vacation actually.
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Post by cheap on Jan 8, 2020 6:18:12 GMT -5
I think the worst part of the whole deal was thinking I’d be safe fully investing in a non Legendary Pilot for my Fen because let’s face it, I don’t care how you swing it, Cano is just terrible. And then they go ahead and break the mold and release a 2nd Legendary Pilot that is actually useful and desirable..... And then to make things worse I win him for free.... Nope Pix, I’m onto project Behemoth now... Be strong, stick to your plan. That’s how great hangers are built. But this fugly SOB is on track to get a slot in my 2nd string hanger. Legendary Pilot Angry Santa demands it. GOOD LORD!! that is thing is a Assault on the Eyes... an i thought the Ao Jun with the 10k skin, the Angry Toad Inq , and the Green Eyed Natty were the worst Bots.
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Post by SuperHero on Jan 8, 2020 6:52:56 GMT -5
Sorry I'm late to the party. I have both Fenrir pilots and both are leveled. Santa is a better fit IMHO for sure. With the original lady, you had to play REAL smart in order to utilize her well.
Santa allows you to make mistakes and still get away with it. It definitely a better and more natural brawler. I can go toe-to-toe with Traditionalist Falcons and make them regret underestimating the Fenrir.
Especially if you run a Glacier/Corona setup. I love the Glacier.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jan 8, 2020 10:47:01 GMT -5
I have both Fenrir pilots (neither leveled) and am considering building one (don't have rn) after my current project. I want to know if anyone runs these pilots and want to know whether Santa or Blondie is better and why. Blondie gives 20% faster shield recharge which is pretty good and since I'd get a Fortifier module, that would be 40% faster recharge, but I can't find out the base recharge rate to begin with so I don't know how important that would be. Santa, on the other hand, gives 20 Def pts. That takes the Fenrir from 100 Def pts to 120, which increases his DR from 50% to 55%. That's halfway to T-falc land, but I'm just not sure it's better. Most of the time I encounter a Fenrir, it's in DR mode and recharging it's shield, so I think I would want Santa, but I want to hear what actual users say. Thanks in advance. linda is probably better, the shield is fairly weak but recharges very fast normally. I do have linda and she is very useful, I have the shield ready in about 10 seconds rather than the 15 or so it would be on a bulwark. 5 extra percent DR isn't very good versus the faster infinitly recharging free health. Also, don't use a fortifier, the only bot that is really worth it on is bulwark, running fortifier just ins't gonna be very useful on fenrir because going extra health with the modules and extra shield strenght with the pilot skills is better.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jan 8, 2020 10:52:57 GMT -5
Yep, I got a mk2 maxed Fen with 2 maxed Heavy Armor Kit, and Anti Control. If I get caught in the open by even a moderately leveled Ao Jun it’s off to an early grave. Still love the bot though, if your not a Ao Jun or a Maxed Leech your dead 1 on 1. I recently drew the Santa pilot but I’m not sure if it’s worth all the time and gold to get back to were I currently am with a 6 skill regular pilot. Running Leadhose....love it! As you say, 1 on1 Ao Jun and Leech better not miss, everyone else better run/PS.... If it wasn’t for all the AJs’, Fen is my #1 bot, or maybe #2, behind my Corona/Spark Gary....can’t believe how well Gary does in this meta Another good point, discussed in the past, is dropping gold to “catch up” new Legendary Pilot when they drop to replace regular pilot/skills....total BS ripoff by Pix. I would expect nothing less from them....... more like slowly waddle away hoping you don't get shotguns in your a-hole, once was left with only fenrir on yamantua, *shudder*
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jan 8, 2020 10:57:29 GMT -5
Wow that is a good analysis @stardustrial ! That's making me take another look at that thing.... what a monster. Deadeye I've had several folks tell me that linda's regen skill is hardly noticeable, if at all. And several YT'er videos have commented that the Adrian pilot is better on on the fen. The santa pilot is what I'd lean towards seeing stardustrial posted above. What a tank! I've won the reindeer fen and santa so far in this event and I'm tempted. This video from xCHIEFx also peaked my interest. That set-up is wrecking reds! im the case of lindas skill, its more noticeable now then it was before. People just said "its terrible" amd left it at that rather than look at the uses, maybe santa is a bit better but linda is still extremely useful and lets you use the running mode more often, meaning you get to be more flexible and move faster.
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Post by Desc440 on Jan 8, 2020 11:08:26 GMT -5
im the case of lindas skill, its more noticeable now then it was before. People just said "its terrible" amd left it at that rather than look at the uses, maybe santa is a bit better but linda is still extremely useful and lets you use the running mode more often, meaning you get to be more flexible and move faster. I think Woody is better suited for shottie setups, where you really are commited to do or die fighting, whereas Linda is going to be pretty good if you use the Fenny with a bit more standoff.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jan 8, 2020 11:16:55 GMT -5
im the case of lindas skill, its more noticeable now then it was before. People just said "its terrible" amd left it at that rather than look at the uses, maybe santa is a bit better but linda is still extremely useful and lets you use the running mode more often, meaning you get to be more flexible and move faster. I think Woody is better suited for shottie setups, where you really are commited to do or die fighting, whereas Linda is going to be pretty good if you use the Fenny with a bit more standoff. which in my opinion is better, being able to hit decently from any range is better than hitting hard IF you can get close, but whatever, IMO, YMMV
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Post by Desc440 on Jan 8, 2020 11:20:18 GMT -5
I think Woody is better suited for shottie setups, where you really are commited to do or die fighting, whereas Linda is going to be pretty good if you use the Fenny with a bit more standoff. which in my opinion is better, being able to hit decently from any range is better than hitting hard IF you can get close, but whatever, IMO, YMMV Certainly a defendable opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 18:28:25 GMT -5
Running Leadhose....love it! As you say, 1 on1 Ao Jun and Leech better not miss, everyone else better run/PS.... If it wasn’t for all the AJs’, Fen is my #1 bot, or maybe #2, behind my Corona/Spark Gary....can’t believe how well Gary does in this meta Another good point, discussed in the past, is dropping gold to “catch up” new Legendary Pilot when they drop to replace regular pilot/skills....total BS ripoff by Pix. I would expect nothing less from them....... more like slowly waddle away hoping you don't get shotguns in your a-hole, once was left with only fenrir on yamantua, *shudder* It’s pretty nimble as long as Ageis is still working.....50kph is not slow. Ive cover end to end on Crater, blasting my MK2 Pun-TS, then closed, dropped Avenger and rock and roll!
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