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Post by Deadeye on Dec 11, 2019 14:36:12 GMT -5
Let me just say up front, I'm not a fan of TDM. I know how to play it, but I like the bacons. Gimme some white beams of light projecting to the sky and I'ma make blue. That said, my TSD (re: Titan Slayer Dissatisfaction) had been getting me down due to a loss of silver and someone suggested playing TDM. I was like...sure, fine, whatever. Then I played a few matches and saw the silver output and was all...  Give it a try. I played 3 games a couple hours ago over lunch. Only benefits I was rocking were an offense booster and premium. No ads and no Ag booster. I got over 1 million silver in EACH GAME! We won all of them and I did well in all, so your results may vary. You can't play it at all hours of the day as it's slim pickens for players at odd hours. Also, you can still run into a full squad to ruin the fun, but overall until they fix the titan silver bug, it's a win. Good luck and happy hunting. P.S. I will say that my hanger is (without actually trying to make it so) surprisingly suited to TDM. 2 Phantoms lets me launch myself into danger to pick off the weak and/or dying and zap back to safety. Also, it's an Ao Jun fest, but the pilots are generally too aggressive and easy to take advantage of. |
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Post by no pain 80 on Dec 11, 2019 14:40:23 GMT -5
thanks for the heads-up
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Post by no pain 80 on Dec 11, 2019 14:43:39 GMT -5
A few questions if you dont mind replying: 1) what is the damage to Ag ratio for wins in the 1st three places? 2) are they for over 3M damage?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 14:58:01 GMT -5
Switched to TDM before Titans....still do some bacon chasing for tasks, but mostly TDM as the Ag thing is true, but also there are a lot less Leech crap in TDM.
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Post by Deadeye on Dec 11, 2019 15:01:04 GMT -5
A few questions if you dont mind replying: 1) what is the damage to Ag ratio for wins in the 1st three places? 2) are they for over 3M damage? Let's see...in the 3 games I referenced, I got between 1.3-1.8 million damage in each (I think, I'm just guessing), coming in 1st in one of those games. I would say that I had maybe a ratio of 3/4 of silver/damage. That's a rough guess. None of my games were over 3 million damage. I don't think I even topped 2 million in those. |
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Post by Deadeye on Dec 11, 2019 15:02:57 GMT -5
Switched to TDM before Titans....still do some bacon chasing for tasks, but mostly TDM as the Ag thing is true, but also there are a lot less Leech crap in TDM. I wouldn't say a LOT less, but yes, less. Like I said, many more AJs though, wouldn't you say? The big boys still bring their Leeches to the yard. Hella lot more hydras/chimera/spirals though. lol |
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Post by Phycoshot on Dec 11, 2019 15:10:07 GMT -5
I wish I could only play TDM, but they still haven't put the separate buttons on amazon yet.
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Post by Munki on Dec 11, 2019 15:30:40 GMT -5
Let me just say up front, I'm not a fan of TDM. I know how to play it, but I like the bacons. Gimme some white beams of light projecting to the sky and I'ma make blue. That said, my TSD (re: Titan Slayer Dissatisfaction) had been getting me down due to a loss of silver and someone suggested playing TDM. I was like...sure, fine, whatever. Then I played a few matches and saw the silver output and was all... Give it a try. I played 3 games a couple hours ago over lunch. Only benefits I was rocking were an offense booster and premium. No ads and no Ag booster. I got over 1 million silver in EACH GAME! We won all of them and I did well in all, so your results may vary. You can't play it at all hours of the day as it's slim pickens for players at odd hours. Also, you can still run into a full squad to ruin the fun, but overall until they fix the titan silver bug, it's a win. Good luck and happy hunting. P.S. I will say that my hanger is (without actually trying to make it so) surprisingly suited to TDM. 2 Phantoms lets me launch myself into danger to pick off the weak and/or dying and zap back to safety. Also, it's an Ao Jun fest, but the pilots are generally too aggressive and easy to take advantage of. TDM Matches in my experience do on average take longer to complete though and often can use the whole 10 minute clock. It is something to consider when running Ag boosters since (and I still do not know why) the boosters are "real time" limited instead of number of games played. TDM can give a lot in a round but if you can get say 3x as many games done in the same time period of BR and you got about 50% the Ag in a BR match, wouldn't you actually accrue Ag at a faster rate in BR? That is just a guess on Ag rates but it is something worthy of testing. How much Ag do you get per minute of game play on average in each game mode?  The only reason to want to stick out to the end of a match when Ag farming is to hopefully get the Ad to boost the Ag by 50%. That appears to be random so if you could just get into a game, bash the reds as hard and fast as you can, then bot out and into another match, you should overall maximize your Ag payout (important with those Ag boosters). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 15:33:05 GMT -5
Switched to TDM before Titans....still do some bacon chasing for tasks, but mostly TDM as the Ag thing is true, but also there are a lot less Leech crap in TDM. I wouldn't say a LOT less, but yes, less. Like I said, many more AJs though, wouldn't you say? The big boys still bring their Leeches to the yard. Hella lot more hydras/chimera/spirals though. lol It is the case for me still, iOS M2......my guess is Champions League is Leechville everywhere one goes..... |
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Post by T34 on Dec 11, 2019 15:51:04 GMT -5
Hate to burst your bubbles guys but TDM was the hardest hit of all and ya’ll missed the boat. Payouts got like a 50% hit and the games take much longer on average because of the titans.
This has been the biggest silver nerf that I have ever seen. If you spend on the game than so be it but one thing you should not do is buy silver. If you do than more silver nerfs will bound to follow and you will end up paying for what you used to earn for just playing before. Just had to say it but I am sure you all know.
Also, if people flock into tdm they will nerf the silver income there too. The higher pay out was to encourage people to play that mode.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 11, 2019 16:18:18 GMT -5
Hate to burst your bubbles guys but TDM was the hardest hit of all and ya’ll missed the boat. Payouts got like a 50% hit and the games take much longer on average because of the titans. This has been the biggest silver nerf that I have ever seen. If you spend on the game than so be it but one thing you should not do is buy silver. If you do than more silver nerfs will bound to follow and you will end up paying for what you used to earn for just playing before. Just had to say it but I am sure you all know. Also, if people flock into tdm they will nerf the silver income there too. The higher pay out was to encourage people to play that mode.Are you saying that there still is a higher payout or that it's gone?  |
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Post by Deadeye on Dec 11, 2019 17:01:23 GMT -5
Let me just say up front, I'm not a fan of TDM. I know how to play it, but I like the bacons. Gimme some white beams of light projecting to the sky and I'ma make blue. That said, my TSD (re: Titan Slayer Dissatisfaction) had been getting me down due to a loss of silver and someone suggested playing TDM. I was like...sure, fine, whatever. Then I played a few matches and saw the silver output and was all... Give it a try. I played 3 games a couple hours ago over lunch. Only benefits I was rocking were an offense booster and premium. No ads and no Ag booster. I got over 1 million silver in EACH GAME! We won all of them and I did well in all, so your results may vary. You can't play it at all hours of the day as it's slim pickens for players at odd hours. Also, you can still run into a full squad to ruin the fun, but overall until they fix the titan silver bug, it's a win. Good luck and happy hunting. P.S. I will say that my hanger is (without actually trying to make it so) surprisingly suited to TDM. 2 Phantoms lets me launch myself into danger to pick off the weak and/or dying and zap back to safety. Also, it's an Ao Jun fest, but the pilots are generally too aggressive and easy to take advantage of. TDM Matches in my experience do on average take longer to complete though and often can use the whole 10 minute clock. It is something to consider when running Ag boosters since (and I still do not know why) the boosters are "real time" limited instead of number of games played. TDM can give a lot in a round but if you can get say 3x as many games done in the same time period of BR and you got about 50% the Ag in a BR match, wouldn't you actually accrue Ag at a faster rate in BR? That is just a guess on Ag rates but it is something worthy of testing. How much Ag do you get per minute of game play on average in each game mode? The only reason to want to stick out to the end of a match when Ag farming is to hopefully get the Ad to boost the Ag by 50%. That appears to be random so if you could just get into a game, bash the reds as hard and fast as you can, then bot out and into another match, you should overall maximize your Ag payout (important with those Ag boosters). This used to be the case for me as I almost always play BR solo. However, since the Titans have come out my Ag numbers have fallen off terribly. I made over 3 million in 30 minutes and wouldn't have likely cracked that in BR, but even if they are similar, it feels like more and it's that feeling that I'm craving more of right now. You do have a very good point, though. If/when they fix the titan silver issues, I'll jump right back to BR for sure. Also, BR is going to be better for honor, bar none. |
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Post by Deadeye on Dec 11, 2019 17:07:58 GMT -5
Hate to burst your bubbles guys but TDM was the hardest hit of all and ya’ll missed the boat. Payouts got like a 50% hit and the games take much longer on average because of the titans. This has been the biggest silver nerf that I have ever seen. If you spend on the game than so be it but one thing you should not do is buy silver. If you do than more silver nerfs will bound to follow and you will end up paying for what you used to earn for just playing before. Just had to say it but I am sure you all know. Also, if people flock into tdm they will nerf the silver income there too. The higher pay out was to encourage people to play that mode. I hear what you're saying and you're likely right on all points. From my perspective, since I didn't play TDM before the titans, I don't notice the difference so it's all good to me (perception and expectation affects fun level). Also, I see fewer Titans in this mode anyway, for whatever reason, so I'm shooting them less and not seeing the titan penalty as often either. I don't buy silver. Period. Personal decision. I don't think enough people will flock to TDM for it to move the needle. They'll fix the Titan bug before that happens. My $0.02 |
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Post by dobby on Dec 11, 2019 17:29:20 GMT -5
Are you saying that there still is a higher payout or that it's gone? Higher payout ratio in regards to damage done is still there; it's just that TDM matches take longer on average and the introduction of Titans only increases the average duration further, so per unit of time it is in effect a silver nerf. The only potential bright side I see in regards to TDM (whilst Titans still offer no silver) is: if average games before Titans already lasted 8-9 mins (I don't play that mode much so IDK the average, just speculating) then they were already close to the max duration and so the duration impact of Titans is limited to an additional minute or two. Whereas in BR (depending on your play-style) the average is likely much less, perhaps 5-6 mins (or shorter) but if it is now being dragged out to 8-10 mins then that is a very significant duration increase, and in effect a serious silver nerf. But meh, not playing too much at present so I don't care all that much. I think I spend more time on the forum than in the game; not sure if that's sad, or just the natural course due to Pix's BS. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:00:22 GMT -5
Are you saying that there still is a higher payout or that it's gone? Higher payout ratio in regards to damage done is still there; it's just that TDM matches take longer on average and the introduction of Titans only increases the average duration further, so per unit of time it is in effect a silver nerf. The only potential bright side I see in regards to TDM (whilst Titans still offer no silver) is: if average games before Titans already lasted 8-9 mins (I don't play that mode much so IDK the average, just speculating) then they were already close to the max duration and so the duration impact of Titans is limited to an additional minute or two. Whereas in BR (depending on your play-style) the average is likely much less, perhaps 5-6 mins (or shorter) but if it is now being dragged out to 8-10 mins then that is a very significant duration increase, and in effect a serious silver nerf. But meh, not playing too much at present so I don't care all that much. I think I spend more time on the forum than in the game; not sure if that's sad, or just the natural course due to Pix's BS. yea good point. i still think TDM matches will last the 10 min if you play careful. it's just a camper snooze fest |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:10:15 GMT -5
Hate to burst your bubbles guys but TDM was the hardest hit of all and yaâll missed the boat. Payouts got like a 50% hit and the games take much longer on average because of the titans. This has been the biggest silver nerf that I have ever seen. If you spend on the game than so be it but one thing you should not do is buy silver. If you do than more silver nerfs will bound to follow and you will end up paying for what you used to earn for just playing before. Just had to say it but I am sure you all know. Also, if people flock into tdm they will nerf the silver income there too. The higher pay out was to encourage people to play that mode.Are you saying that there still is a higher payout or that it's gone? yea, i notice the payouts were worst, and i don't even play this mode. but i don't play it enough to say anything. i think when there was more chatter a few weeks ago about clans escaping to TDM. so pixo caught wind of it on here, and nerfed it. didn't want clans cleaning up on TDM my guess. is that what happen? before i get accused, some people actually like to play this mode. yes, some people actually like this mode, and play it exclusively. nothing todo with time of day, escaping clans, etc. When i see that squad forming up, i won't join that squad because i know which mode they like to play. still a 「wee-wee」 move. tdm is a terrible mode to play, i don't play it. |
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Post by T34 on Dec 11, 2019 18:17:49 GMT -5
Hate to burst your bubbles guys but TDM was the hardest hit of all and ya’ll missed the boat. Payouts got like a 50% hit and the games take much longer on average because of the titans. This has been the biggest silver nerf that I have ever seen. If you spend on the game than so be it but one thing you should not do is buy silver. If you do than more silver nerfs will bound to follow and you will end up paying for what you used to earn for just playing before. Just had to say it but I am sure you all know. Also, if people flock into tdm they will nerf the silver income there too. The higher pay out was to encourage people to play that mode. I hear what you're saying and you're likely right on all points. From my perspective, since I didn't play TDM before the titans, I don't notice the difference so it's all good to me (perception and expectation affects fun level). Also, I see fewer Titans in this mode anyway, for whatever reason, so I'm shooting them less and not seeing the titan penalty as often either. I don't buy silver. Period. Personal decision. I don't think enough people will flock to TDM for it to move the needle. They'll fix the Titan bug before that happens. My $0.02 TDM is riddled with titans when people decide to fight or when A or S clans are involved (on the losing side). The silver formula seems to be better in tdm but the other consideration that needs to be borne in mind is time in game and how many SDs can you collect per unit time. If iam after silver than crash and burn bots in BR is the way to go if considering hands on gaming. |
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Post by T34 on Dec 11, 2019 18:34:34 GMT -5
Hate to burst your bubbles guys but TDM was the hardest hit of all and ya’ll missed the boat. Payouts got like a 50% hit and the games take much longer on average because of the titans. This has been the biggest silver nerf that I have ever seen. If you spend on the game than so be it but one thing you should not do is buy silver. If you do than more silver nerfs will bound to follow and you will end up paying for what you used to earn for just playing before. Just had to say it but I am sure you all know. Also, if people flock into tdm they will nerf the silver income there too. The higher pay out was to encourage people to play that mode.Are you saying that there still is a higher payout or that it's gone? I think the higher pay out is still there but Titants definitely extended game time in this mode more than in others. So that’s a nerf. IMO the overall AG pay out formula is still more favourable than in other modes. Pix said the higher pay out was there to encourage people to play that mode. However, the average (subjective) silver that I am getting after matches seems to be less after the update. Got some screen dumps of payouts in tdm prior to the update and will compare that with what the current payout is. Than the discussion will shift from subjective to objective. |
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Post by T34 on Dec 11, 2019 18:42:43 GMT -5
Higher payout ratio in regards to damage done is still there; it's just that TDM matches take longer on average and the introduction of Titans only increases the average duration further, so per unit of time it is in effect a silver nerf. The only potential bright side I see in regards to TDM (whilst Titans still offer no silver) is: if average games before Titans already lasted 8-9 mins (I don't play that mode much so IDK the average, just speculating) then they were already close to the max duration and so the duration impact of Titans is limited to an additional minute or two. Whereas in BR (depending on your play-style) the average is likely much less, perhaps 5-6 mins (or shorter) but if it is now being dragged out to 8-10 mins then that is a very significant duration increase, and in effect a serious silver nerf. But meh, not playing too much at present so I don't care all that much. I think I spend more time on the forum than in the game; not sure if that's sad, or just the natural course due to Pix's BS. yea good point. i still think TDM matches will last the 10 min if you play careful. it's just a camper snooze fest Campers lose big time to brawlers in TDM. Leeches, Tfals and Juns easily break a sniper line up. Once the line up is broken than the priority is to have really fast bots to get back to the spawn raid. |
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Post by railbait on Dec 11, 2019 19:29:57 GMT -5
I tried, I really tried but I just can't play TDM. The hydra and vortex are everywhere and everyone just hides and runs to the far side of the map when you get near them. To top things off, in my 3rd game I managed to corner a maxxed out Treb Fury and he destroyed himself right as I started shooting him rather than get killed. I havent seen a ?meow? move like that since gold league. His entire hangar was MKII bots and weapons and he had over 7600 wins. Nope, I am done with TDM thank you very much.
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I meched out in 5-7 minutes in all 3 matches and still was first place all 3 times for my team. Silver payouts were decent but not worth the frustration of the gameplay.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 19:51:09 GMT -5
I tried, I really tried but I just can't play TDM. The hydra and vortex are everywhere and everyone just hides and runs to the far side of the map when you get near them. To top things off, in my 3rd game I managed to corner a maxxed out Treb Fury and he destroyed himself right as I started shooting him rather than get killed. I havent seen a ?meow? move like that since gold league. His entire hangar was MKII bots and weapons and he had over 7600 wins. Nope, I am done with TDM thank you very much. Edit: I meched out in 5-7 minutes in all 3 matches and still was first place all 3 times for my team. Silver payouts were decent but not worth the frustration of the gameplay. yea seriously. red team camps. all the other blues camp. 1v6. like that's gonna work chargin them |
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Post by josh378 on Dec 11, 2019 19:55:52 GMT -5
Man I hate TDM but Silver > Preferences...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 19:58:36 GMT -5
I do ok with Ag in TDM.....I like a very small leech population mode more than more battles per hour, or even a little more Ag.
Anyways, that’s how I roll.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 12, 2019 1:30:05 GMT -5
I tried, I really tried but I just can't play TDM. The hydra and vortex are everywhere and everyone just hides and runs to the far side of the map when you get near them. To top things off, in my 3rd game I managed to corner a maxxed out Treb Fury and he destroyed himself right as I started shooting him rather than get killed. I havent seen a ?meow? move like that since gold league. His entire hangar was MKII bots and weapons and he had over 7600 wins. Nope, I am done with TDM thank you very much. Edit: I meched out in 5-7 minutes in all 3 matches and still was first place all 3 times for my team. Silver payouts were decent but not worth the frustration of the gameplay. TDM is like having gout |
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Post by Heishiro on Dec 12, 2019 1:48:24 GMT -5
TDM + clear data = awesomeness of silvers!
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Post by foxypotato on Dec 12, 2019 2:03:33 GMT -5
We really have fallen. TDM was hated for being boring but now we play it to farm Ag or hide from broken bots. This game is a farming game to build the same broken bots we dispise. After some time has passed and a new batch of broken bots are release we come to accept the old broken bots as fine and balanced without any meaningful balance changes having been made to them. Repeat.
Sunk time and cost I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 16:37:07 GMT -5
I am playing dom, matches going all the way to 0. Yea, at this point, TDM would be money maker. Forget the beacons n try to mech out 36 bots.
What I doing, I try to cap or not cap beacons. Get match going and going n go. So Titan come out n play.
Also, I don’t want too short match. WHat the F. Can I get a decent team to hold beacons? Short game, low dmg. Ok, not about silver. Get high numbers.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Dec 12, 2019 17:08:06 GMT -5
I wish I could only play TDM, but they still haven't put the separate buttons on amazon yet. Separate buttons starting at only $99.99, get yours today! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 2:17:46 GMT -5
I'm rather liking the silver output too. Round-the-clock TDMs are also good for more quickly completing the (usually tough) "honor for top places by kills and damage dealt" Tasks, as they give two separate honor rewards - one for top kills and one for top damage dealt. As slow as the matchmaking can be, I'm enjoying TDM again and find it a nice change of pace to the hectic Beacon Rush!!!es, and perhaps a more friendly, welcoming place to start my matches with a Flux Behemoth...
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Post by orionpax on Dec 13, 2019 3:51:15 GMT -5
Are you saying that there still is a higher payout or that it's gone? Higher payout ratio in regards to damage done is still there; it's just that TDM matches take longer on average and the introduction of Titans only increases the average duration further, so per unit of time it is in effect a silver nerf. The only potential bright side I see in regards to TDM (whilst Titans still offer no silver) is: if average games before Titans already lasted 8-9 mins (I don't play that mode much so IDK the average, just speculating) then they were already close to the max duration and so the duration impact of Titans is limited to an additional minute or two. Whereas in BR (depending on your play-style) the average is likely much less, perhaps 5-6 mins (or shorter) but if it is now being dragged out to 8-10 mins then that is a very significant duration increase, and in effect a serious silver nerf. But meh, not playing too much at present so I don't care all that much. I think I spend more time on the forum than in the game; not sure if that's sad, or just the natural course due to Pix's BS. . I definitely spend more time here then on the game. I’m guessing I have at least 3 hours a day on here all week. I’ve played Maybe 10 games all week. Sad but true. 3 times this week I picked up my iPad, opened up Walking War Robots and then just kinda stared at it for a few minutes. Proceeded to turn it off without playing a game. The 10 games I did play were just filled with Flying stealth symbols at the beginning then packs of leeches at the end. Nothing but flames and purple lasers. ?? |
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