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Post by BB on Dec 11, 2019 14:01:47 GMT -5
 They beckon me, but are they worth it? My Exo Strider has been pestering me to dump the Gusts and go Rime. Thoughts? Opinions? Anecdotes? |
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Post by Phycoshot on Dec 11, 2019 14:16:32 GMT -5
They pair well with the exodus because it is normally a hard hitter but with the extra damage it is really powerful, also lets you take on resistance bots like the fen more easily, but really really bad in sustained combat, so the basics of rockets.
It's one build I my self am considering if I grab another rime
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Post by Overlordship on Dec 11, 2019 14:17:14 GMT -5
I’ve been contemplating the same thing as I have that same setup on one of my Striders. That gust nerf really took the punch out of that setup.
My Rime is in the process of leveling up to 7 and should be done by tomorrow. I’ll take it out for a spin and report back.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Dec 11, 2019 14:17:38 GMT -5
They beckon me, but are they worth it? My Exo Strider has been pestering me to dump the Gusts and go Rime. Thoughts? Opinions? Anecdotes? FWIW - My Rime/Glacier Strider is probably my top performer right now. Really good, high DPS, enough load to drop most non-tanks instantly, fast(ish) reload. |
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Dec 11, 2019 14:18:45 GMT -5
They beckon me, but are they worth it? My Exo Strider has been pestering me to dump the Gusts and go Rime. Thoughts? Opinions? Anecdotes? FWIW - My Rime/Glacier Strider is probably my top performer right now. Really good, high DPS, enough load to drop most non-tanks instantly, fast(ish) reload. Oops, forgot to add I'm also running the Gust/Exodus Strider and that's probably my 3rd favorite build; and still very effective. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 14:39:30 GMT -5
I like the Rime....it, too, is on my Strider
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Post by Joopiter on Dec 11, 2019 14:43:40 GMT -5
Yes they are surprisingly solid especially with exodus.
I run an exodus rime hades and that thing is a blast.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 14:49:09 GMT -5
  IMO, the cyro weapons are pretty darn good. It would be ok by me to get some more during the Christmas event. I recommend these......also, a couple of the mediums on your Rog, with your skills! Damn! |
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 11, 2019 15:08:55 GMT -5
Yes they are surprisingly solid especially with exodus. I run an exodus rime hades and that thing is a blast. What levels are your Rimes and Exodus? I've been thinking of trying Exodus/Rime Hades too, but my levels are L9 for Exodus and L8 for Rimes, and as others have said, rockets don't well in sustained combat. I tend to run my Hades like a fast(ish) brawler, so sustained combat is a must. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 11, 2019 15:25:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 15:35:47 GMT -5
Yes they are surprisingly solid especially with exodus. I run an exodus rime hades and that thing is a blast. What levels are your Rimes and Exodus? I've been thinking of trying Exodus/Rime Hades too, but my levels are L9 for Exodus and L8 for Rimes, and as others have said, rockets don't well in sustained combat. I tend to run my Hades like a fast(ish) brawler, so sustained combat is a must. TBH, Hades without Avenger or, maybe, Viper is handicapped..... |
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Post by BB on Dec 11, 2019 16:54:15 GMT -5
Sold! Leveling is underway, thx much for the fast feedback everyone.
I do miss administering the full rocket facials, can I assume they reload at least a bit faster than the ancient piñata?
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Post by Omicron01 on Dec 11, 2019 17:07:57 GMT -5
Actually, they reload SLIGHTLY slower but they hold way more rockets (Pinata - 17, Rime - 35)
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 11, 2019 17:07:59 GMT -5
What levels are your Rimes and Exodus? I've been thinking of trying Exodus/Rime Hades too, but my levels are L9 for Exodus and L8 for Rimes, and as others have said, rockets don't well in sustained combat. I tend to run my Hades like a fast(ish) brawler, so sustained combat is a must. TBH, Hades without Avenger or, maybe, Viper is handicapped..... Yeah, agreed, I'd much rather have the ability to hit from medium close (400-ish meters) range on a Hades. The ability weapon is better suited for that range, too.
This is especially true with all of the fast bots taking over... Phantom, Leech (especially with its Legendary Pilot equipped), Ao Jun, etc., and the Close Range tanks that seem to be everywhere I want to be nowadays... Hades needs a bit of breathing room, in my experience.
Now... Koalabear might have the lock on how to CQB with it so I am not going to say he's wrong for doing so... and I am the last person to tell someone that they are doing it wrong. More of an "in general" statement. Hell... I run Avenger + Puns on mine... #justleadhosethings ... gotta have at least one in my hangar and the Hades drew the short straw on that configuration  . |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 11, 2019 19:24:25 GMT -5
Anecdote - cryogenic weapons have a devastating impact on my Phantom. So much so that I am planning Rime Exodus Strider to help pacify Phantom mobility
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 20:08:31 GMT -5
Yes....freeze then shatter, shoties do this well. Something hard hitting, good DPS works well.
I have frozen a dragon mid flight and dropped it with my Fenrir, freezing is kind like Deathmark.....anyone hits the popsicle does 20% more damage.
Good times
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Post by Joopiter on Dec 11, 2019 20:36:25 GMT -5
Yes they are surprisingly solid especially with exodus. I run an exodus rime hades and that thing is a blast. What levels are your Rimes and Exodus? I've been thinking of trying Exodus/Rime Hades too, but my levels are L9 for Exodus and L8 for Rimes, and as others have said, rockets don't well in sustained combat. I tend to run my Hades like a fast(ish) brawler, so sustained combat is a must. They're maxed out. Although I was one of the lucky ones that got 2 rimes early in the event and saw they were bugged for upgrades. I Mk2 level 12'd them in a day. And yeah you've got to somewhat hit n run. But the rimes reload pretty quick. What's nice too is the built in weapon hits that much harder with the target frozen. |
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Post by Joopiter on Dec 11, 2019 20:40:24 GMT -5
Sold! Leveling is underway, thx much for the fast feedback everyone. I do miss administering the full rocket facials, can I assume they reload at least a bit faster than the ancient piñata? I feel comfortable saying it's a death button 2.0. My exodus rime hades puts everything in last stand except burliest tanks like maxed out invaders and fenrirs. And ofc t-fals. But everything else it's frozen solid trying figure out 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 just hit them that hard. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 22:12:31 GMT -5
I'm wanting to Cryo too. New wave and greatly improved Pinata/Orkan/Exodus. I might need something good for 300m hit and runs, like Strider (Glacier/Rimes) or Phantom (Cryo/Rimes).
I've been trying Level 1 Sinister Cryo/Rimes on my Mender to good effect (I'm still inexperienced at Death Button builds), but I'm back on a more clinically effective team support healer (and kamakaze at worst) setup again with 500m Halos/600m Pulsar.
Waiting for the non-Sinister versions before having fun.
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Post by 乃ㄥ卂乙 on Dec 12, 2019 1:08:30 GMT -5
i run 2 Rimes on my Rayker combined with Avenger. It's a really fun build. Rimes and Glance combo are crippling to anything without PS, slowing the target down, reducing it's DR and it's weapon power, gives me time to dance around and shread them to bits with Avenger. This is probably the best 1v1 setup i have ever played, no kidding. Rimes are more in Ork division than in Pinata power wise one IMO, mine are lvl 5 and 7, and they seem OP. And they do green mist  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 1:37:43 GMT -5
The light Rime seems to have the same burst damage as a medium Orkan, but slightly faster unload and reload times PLUS the ability to freeze too.
The Medium Cryo seems to be similar to the light Rime, with around 20% difference in damage output.
The Heavy Glacier hits around twice (190% / 238%) as hard as a Cryo / Rime, but otherwise shares exactly the same rocket count, unload and reload times.
Rime/Cryo/Glacier all seem to unload/reload at faster than Orkan speed and are exactly synchronised to each other, rocket-for-rocket - unlike the Pinata/Orkan/Exodus series.
4.3 second burst with a 17 second recharge.
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Post by milty72 on Dec 12, 2019 2:59:37 GMT -5
i run 2 Rimes on my Rayker combined with Avenger. It's a really fun build. Rimes and Glance combo are crippling to anything without PS, slowing the target down, reducing it's DR and it's weapon power, gives me time to dance around and shread them to bits with Avenger. This is probably the best 1v1 setup i have ever played, no kidding. Rimes are more in Ork division than in Pinata power wise one IMO, mine are lvl 5 and 7, and they seem OP. And they do green mist This is the sort of build i was thinking with the Rimes or other Cryo weapons. I think they will perform best when paired with a sustained damage weapon like an Avenger as you can take advantage of the freeze boost. I got 4 in the event and had leveled them to L6 and has them all on a Blitz. The whole set up was low levelled but a hell of a lot of fun. Really good ambush support bot. Run in freeze and let my blue buddies enjoy the freeze as I would either run back or dance about in the joy. Jeez it was a good fun build. |
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Post by RightOn on Dec 12, 2019 4:30:30 GMT -5
These are burst values per cycle at lv8
Pinata 20k (slightly shorter reload)
Rime 30k
Orkan 33k (slightly longer reload)
Cryo 39k
Exodus 77k (slightly longer reload)
Glacier 74k
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 7:15:06 GMT -5
Just remember......it’s all good while new, be wary of the nerf bat when sales drop off!
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Post by bravex on Dec 12, 2019 7:27:33 GMT -5
Totally worth it.
In my Smurf account I have a Galahad with ONE RIME on it -it's only at level 7! - yet I can freeze Falcons and do massive damage to them. If I have even one teammate helping me the Falcon goes down.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 12, 2019 7:53:07 GMT -5
What levels are your Rimes and Exodus? I've been thinking of trying Exodus/Rime Hades too, but my levels are L9 for Exodus and L8 for Rimes, and as others have said, rockets don't well in sustained combat. I tend to run my Hades like a fast(ish) brawler, so sustained combat is a must. TBH, Hades without Avenger or, maybe, Viper is handicapped..... My Hades are Leadhose and Taser. I did try Exodus/Rime briefly yesterday and it's a no go for me. I went back to Leadhose and Taser. |
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Post by WattTron on Dec 12, 2019 8:29:19 GMT -5
It's time to bust them Rimes out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 8:51:49 GMT -5
A Level 4 set of Rime/Sinister Rime/Cryo/Sinister Cryo aren't doing enough damage in Champion League yet (but again, they're at Level 4). But man do they look pretty. They can colour up the map with splashes of colour (Red, Blue, Green and White).
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Dec 12, 2019 10:26:00 GMT -5
These are burst values per cycle at lv8 Pinata 20k (slightly shorter reload) Rime 30k Orkan 33k (slightly longer reload) Cryo 39k Exodus 77k (slightly longer reload) Glacier 74k This isn't counting the damage accumulation, right? A fully frozen target takes 20% more damage, with 3 cryo weapons the target is typically frozen within 1 second. |
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