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Post by Desc440 on Dec 11, 2019 8:49:59 GMT -5
A sniper Legendary Pilot... not sure rewarding camping is such a great idea there, Pixo.
Not sure Wodanson is going to be doing much for Fenrir, if it's 1 extra DP per level for his unique skill.
And does anyone care if Heachi gets Defence Points? It's a shield tanker.
The persuer pilot is great however.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 11, 2019 8:58:43 GMT -5
Ok, I'm confused about how the Defense points work. Do they give bots DR?
I'm happy there's finally a Legendary Pilot for Pursuer...sad that if I get her, I'll have to start all over again...happy that I only have 2 skills to replace.
Elsa, I mean Amalia's special skill for Haechi is a waste. Should have given Haechi an extra dash or something or reduce dash cooldown dramatically.
Meh, the only Legendary Pilot I'm looking to get is Ariadne. With a name like that though, she should be the Legendary Pilot for Rayker or one of the other spider bots.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Dec 11, 2019 8:59:06 GMT -5
Yeah, Basil seems like a step in the wrong direction. Amalia goes great with the Arctic skin for Haechi. St. Nick is just funny.I don't run Pursuer or Haechi yet.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 11, 2019 9:24:02 GMT -5
How’d they get Elsa away from Disney?
But seriously, thx for posting. I’ve been running a Pursuer in my AltBot hanger and the pilot is up for promotion. Good timing on this info, I’ll leave the pilot waiting until I can repurpose him to another bot. I don’t think I’d pay the 2500, but maybe it will be a loot box prize or Ops reward.
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Post by Deadeye on Dec 11, 2019 10:02:37 GMT -5
How’d they get Elsa away from Disney? But seriously, thx for posting. I’ve been running a Pursuer in my AltBot hanger and the pilot is up for promotion. Good timing on this info, I’ll leave the pilot waiting until I can repurpose him to another bot. I don’t think I’d pay the 2500, but maybe it will be a loot box prize or Ops reward. I thought almost the same thing. "Elsa, tired of living in the shadow of Olaf has decided to blast into space and pilot a mech that was popular when her first movie came out." lol |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 10:05:41 GMT -5
And no Hover Legendary Pilot....
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Dec 11, 2019 10:06:47 GMT -5
1) Persuer pilot skills should also apply to Stalker 2) Where's the Hover pilot?  ?? |
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Post by _FakeNews_ on Dec 11, 2019 10:33:38 GMT -5
welp. Time to get the trebs out and start saving.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Dec 11, 2019 10:39:58 GMT -5
A sniper Legendary Pilot... not sure rewarding camping is such a great idea there, Pixo.
Thanks for the intel! I'm excited about the Pursuer pilot. There's a Pursuer-only guy in our clan that might be out-of-his-mind psyched as well. :-)
What is it with people hating campers? On Yamantau a Flux Fury/Behemoth can be a royal PitA. I hate them when it happens, but it's all part of the game. If Chimeras hit harder I would use mine a lot more often in Champions League. So what's the whole dishonorable thing about camping?
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 10:51:05 GMT -5
Top three loadouts for Basil the plant will be Laser Behemoth, TreButchet and Kang-Dae Behemoth. It's nice to see another robot-agnostic pilot, even if he is weapon dependent. Amalia is a strange one. It's odd enough that her Legendary is Haechi, but odder still that her ability is a DR on it? Assuming it does go up by 2.5 points per level, this'll actually be really good; 25 DP correlates to a 20% damage resistance at ALL times. Spider lady not driving any quadruped robot is borderline criminal. Could've used a Rayker Legendary Pilot, depending on what it did. Pursuer shall perish like the rest. Wodanson is a letdown. While DR is very useful in transport when your Aegis inevitably falls, he only provides 10 DP at max, which roughly correlates to 9% DR, just shy of 10%. However, Defense Points don't stack linearly. The more DPs you have, any bonuses on tip stack less as a result. Fenrir has a 50% DR, which is equivalent to 100 DP. 110 DP is... 52%. Not a gamechanger. I'd argue that short of Shieldbreaker, Cano is still the best best for hit and run Fenrirs, while Wodanson is better for the long haul. Numbers taken from the Wiki: warrobots.fandom.com/wiki/Defense_PointsNGL Pix, all it would take to crack my wallet wide open would be a Weyland/Mender pilot... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 10:55:02 GMT -5
And no Hover Legendary Pilot.... Yet...... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 10:55:53 GMT -5
This is getting kinda old.....get pilots, burn Au, now have skills....months later, bot has Legendary Pilot.....get Legendary Pilot, burnAu.................
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Post by Desc440 on Dec 11, 2019 11:07:33 GMT -5
What is it with people hating campers? On Yamantau a Flux Fury/Behemoth can be a royal PitA. I hate them when it happens, but it's all part of the game. If Chimeras hit harder I would use mine a lot more often in Champions League. So what's the whole dishonorable thing about camping? Because games are won by grabbing and holding beacons, something that campers don't help with. |
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Post by Desc440 on Dec 11, 2019 11:13:41 GMT -5
Wodanson is a letdown. While DR is very useful in transport when your Aegis inevitably falls, he only provides 10 DP at max, which roughly correlates to 9% DR, just shy of 10%. However, Defense Points don't stack linearly. The more DPs you have, any bonuses on tip stack less as a result. Fenrir has a 50% DR, which is equivalent to 100 DP. 110 DP is... 52%. Not a gamechanger. I'd argue that short of Shieldbreaker, Cano is still the best best for hit and run Fenrirs, while Wodanson is better for the long haul. Yeah I'm not even sure when exactly his DPs activate. When is the Fenrir's ability considered "active"? It's not like an Ares or Ao Jun in any sense. |
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Post by linearblade on Dec 11, 2019 11:18:47 GMT -5
Pixonic: doing everything they can to shaft all bastion like spiders
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Post by Overlordship on Dec 11, 2019 11:19:05 GMT -5
And no Hover Legendary Pilot.... I think I saw it’s on the list right after Gepard Legendary pilot.  |
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Post by Desc440 on Dec 11, 2019 11:22:40 GMT -5
Doing some quick math, and assuming Wodanson's extra DPs are active when the Fenrir is in assault mode, he essentially boosts the Fen's overall effective Hitpoints by 5%... Kinda underwhelming.
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 11:24:23 GMT -5
Wodanson is a letdown. While DR is very useful in transport when your Aegis inevitably falls, he only provides 10 DP at max, which roughly correlates to 9% DR, just shy of 10%. However, Defense Points don't stack linearly. The more DPs you have, any bonuses on tip stack less as a result. Fenrir has a 50% DR, which is equivalent to 100 DP. 110 DP is... 52%. Not a gamechanger. I'd argue that short of Shieldbreaker, Cano is still the best best for hit and run Fenrirs, while Wodanson is better for the long haul. Yeah I'm not even sure when exactly his DPs activate. When is the Fenrir's ability considered "active"? It's not like an Ares or Ao Jun in any sense. Fenrir has a transformative ability. Unlike the Meta bots where their defensive ability is always active during their ability and activates instantaneously no matter the level (Ares, Ao Jun, Leech, Phantom, etc), the Ragnabots require time to transform. If Loki shifts out of Stealth, the weapons require 3 seconds to be online, not to mention actually discharging them during the the entirety of which it is vulnerable. Tyr needs approximately 2 seconds to transform, where neither the built-in shield, regeneration or the secondary weapons are active, but it's a relatively small vulnerability period. Fenrir requires 2 seconds to transform as well, but because the Aegis is disabled as soon as the button is pressed, and the DR is only active once the green orbs on his back are glowing, there is a brief period where Fenrir has NO defenses, and unlike Tyr has no natural regenerative capabilities. Since it's combat proficiency stems directly from your remaining HP pool, the more damage is done to you while vulnerable, the easier it is to finish a Fenrir off in Assault mode. |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 11:26:01 GMT -5
This is getting kinda old.....get pilots, burn Au, now have skills....months later, bot has Legendary Pilot.....get Legendary Pilot, burnAu................. Wodanson is a nothingburger, IMO. Cano is still the way to go. At max, it offers 10% DR in transport, but in Assault mode? Only 2% on top. Not good. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 11:27:02 GMT -5
Doing some quick math, and assuming Wodanson's extra DPs are active when the Fenrir is in assault mode, he essentially boosts the Fen's overall effective Hitpoints by 5%... Kinda underwhelming. Isn’t that what Legendary skins do? |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 11:27:02 GMT -5
Doing some quick math, and assuming Wodanson's extra DPs are active when the Fenrir is in assault mode, he essentially boosts the Fen's overall effective Hitpoints by 5%... Kinda underwhelming. Not even. Wili says that 100 vs 110 DP only ups the DR in combat by 2% in Assault mode and 9% in transport. Not important. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 11:30:47 GMT -5
This is getting kinda old.....get pilots, burn Au, now have skills....months later, bot has Legendary Pilot.....get Legendary Pilot, burnAu................. Wodanson is a nothingburger, IMO. Cano is still the way to go. At max, it offers 10% DR in transport, but in Assault mode? Only 2% on top. Not good. Another part of my angst.....I have Cano, so why is Santa another Legendary Pilot for Fenrir? Makes no sense, especially when many other bots still do not have Legendary Pilot....like Hover......... |
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Dec 11, 2019 11:33:23 GMT -5
Ariadne is nice looking.
Other than that, Basil would be a nice addition to either my Arbalista Raven or Flux Fury.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Dec 11, 2019 11:35:27 GMT -5
Doing some quick math, and assuming Wodanson's extra DPs are active when the Fenrir is in assault mode, he essentially boosts the Fen's overall effective Hitpoints by 5%... Kinda underwhelming. Not even. Wili says that 100 vs 110 DP only ups the DR in combat by 2% in Assault mode and 9% in transport. Not important. 10 Defense Points when the ability is active. Is the Aegis and rapid movement the ability, or damage resistance and the heavy weapon? |
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Post by Desc440 on Dec 11, 2019 11:38:48 GMT -5
Doing some quick math, and assuming Wodanson's extra DPs are active when the Fenrir is in assault mode, he essentially boosts the Fen's overall effective Hitpoints by 5%... Kinda underwhelming. Not even. Wili says that 100 vs 110 DP only ups the DR in combat by 2% in Assault mode and 9% in transport. Not important. Effective hitpoints is what you have when you take into account DR. The difference, in this case, is 5% more effective HP. |
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Post by zombiewolf907 on Dec 11, 2019 11:40:05 GMT -5
And no Hover Legendary Pilot.... They already have one. I think the name is Earl something or another! |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 11:47:38 GMT -5
Not even. Wili says that 100 vs 110 DP only ups the DR in combat by 2% in Assault mode and 9% in transport. Not important. Effective hitpoints is what you have when you take into account DR. The difference, in this case, is 5% more effective HP. Doesn't really matter if you're just as squishy in transport. DR capability is contingent on having HP to make up the difference, and it's east to scar a Fenrir if it's running away. |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 11:48:58 GMT -5
Not even. Wili says that 100 vs 110 DP only ups the DR in combat by 2% in Assault mode and 9% in transport. Not important. 10 Defense Points when the ability is active. Is the Aegis and rapid movement the ability, or damage resistance and the heavy weapon? Probably the latter, but it's not going to make a huge difference unless they changed how the damage is calculated behind our backs, which is not out of the ordinary. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 11:52:47 GMT -5
And no Hover Legendary Pilot.... They already have one. I think the name is Earl something or another!  |
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Post by vosfihalo on Dec 11, 2019 11:56:28 GMT -5
And no Hover Legendary Pilot.... Basil with Arbalest & Ballista. You're welcome. |
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