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Post by 乃ㄥ卂乙 on Dec 8, 2019 7:11:54 GMT -5
This is not meant as a rant, but I'm gonna put it here anyway because some people are extra sensitive. No, not you. So anyway, here's me: Here's a guy from red team: Red guy is legit, 7k+ cups, me on the other hand am bouncing between expert and master. The question is, what the 「fluffernutter」 am I supposed to do? Seriously, this is madness...
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Post by bravex on Dec 8, 2019 7:23:51 GMT -5
Yep. Happened to me. It's still happening to me.
In most of my recent games, I come in 3rd or 4th. Everyone above me is in Champ, everyone below me is in Diamond.
Because I can't possibly match the damage output of highly leveled players I get penalized. The only way I get Gold and keys is if my Champ teammates are tankers.
What to do? I'm leveling up my gear but my resources are already getting low. The devs have said they're not unhappy with MM but I'd hate to pin my hopes on anything happening there.
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Post by 乃ㄥ卂乙 on Dec 8, 2019 8:21:09 GMT -5
Yeah... I, really don't see upgrading solving any problems... The gap is simply too big
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Post by bravex on Dec 8, 2019 8:25:39 GMT -5
Yeah... I, really don't see upgrading solving any problems... The gap is simply too big True. I'm F2P and I have one bot at level 9 with weapons at 10. Eveything else is one or two levels lower. I might level gear up a little but no way I can afford Mk II.
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Post by runamok on Dec 8, 2019 20:53:14 GMT -5
Looks balanced to me.
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Post by bravex on Dec 8, 2019 20:59:43 GMT -5
I forgot to mention how Pix thinks it's fair to throw Expert and Diamond leaguers against 5 Champs as long as they stick a Silver in as the sixth player.
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Post by Loganspawn on Dec 9, 2019 14:55:14 GMT -5
Yeah... I, really don't see upgrading solving any problems... The gap is simply too big Only thing being maxed does is ensure I am first loser 50% of the games. Matchmaker is whack!
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Post by T34 on Dec 9, 2019 21:29:58 GMT -5
This will just get worse with the silver nerf provided whales and dolphins start snapping up the new silver offers to make up for the silver shortfall (due to the nerf). The disparity will increase and the MM-er will do the same thing while players not buying silver will slide back on a relative comparative scale.
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Post by Grumpy Tanker #Official on Dec 10, 2019 21:13:28 GMT -5
Wasn't there an animated movie, something about the circle of life. And like the movie you are the one that gets to die..... all the time. Don't you see how much fun it is. Aren't you having fun yet.
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Post by bravex on Dec 11, 2019 6:03:30 GMT -5
Yesterday I spawned in with 5 champs on my team. They immediately sprinted off with their Phantoms and Leeches to go commit a spawn raid. I stuggled to keep them in sight.
By the time I joined them I managed to shoot a few rounds but the slaughter was mostly over. The reds had botted out.
So I placed 6th and only got about 50,000 damage. Even when I win I end up losing with the current MM!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 8:20:48 GMT -5
Wasn't there an animated movie, something about the circle of life. And like the movie you are the one that gets to die..... all the time. Don't you see how much fun it is. Aren't you having fun yet.
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Post by hi5 on Dec 11, 2019 9:20:10 GMT -5
This is not meant as a rant, but I'm gonna put it here anyway because some people are extra sensitive. No, not you. So anyway, here's me: Here's a guy from red team: Red guy is legit, 7k+ cups, me on the other hand am bouncing between expert and master. The question is, what the ?fluffernutter? am I supposed to do? Seriously, this is madness... Not being flip here, but one suggestion is to run 5 bots instead of 3. If this is a smurf intentionally running short handed, then unfortunately this may be the norm as playerbase declines. Maybe platform merge helps, but leveling 3 bots high will ensure you always punch over your class. Level capping may be the better route if you’re looking to manage leagues, but you’ll take some lumps.
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Post by 乃ㄥ卂乙 on Dec 11, 2019 10:52:10 GMT -5
This is not meant as a rant, but I'm gonna put it here anyway because some people are extra sensitive. No, not you. So anyway, here's me: Here's a guy from red team: Red guy is legit, 7k+ cups, me on the other hand am bouncing between expert and master. The question is, what the ?fluffernutter? am I supposed to do? Seriously, this is madness... Not being flip here, but one suggestion is to run 5 bots instead of 3. If this is a smurf intentionally running short handed, then unfortunately this may be the norm as playerbase declines. Maybe platform merge helps, but leveling 3 bots high will ensure you always punch over your class. Level capping may be the better route if you’re looking to manage leagues, but you’ll take some lumps. Maybe... But maybe fighting with 5 bot hangar would only ensure full green meta hangars on red team as a norm... Anyways, I'm a veteran player, and here's how I see things. Unfortunately, this game has changed a lot, for peoples that don't spend, and getting 6k au to unlock slots is a huge issue now that you have pilots to tend to. Also, what bots and what weapons would occupy those slots? Leos? Griffs? I don't want to play those... Been building a blitz for idk how long now... Months... Unlocking ws slots is a slow process, and building a bot with 3 or 4 slots is even more slower... And how to level all that stuff I don't have to high degree... I'm trying to get 17mil silver to upgrade my igniter to lvl 9 for full 7 days now. I'm in a loop hole where I don't earn enough silver to work on my gear, and I don't have enough good gear to earn more silver lol... Now, I don't want to rant, but if things don't change, new players who don't pay won't stick around long imo
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Post by Overlordship on Dec 11, 2019 16:05:05 GMT -5
Your problem is crossing the 4100 line. I've been bouncing over and under it for months depending on what other bots MM dumps me with and if it's time for my regular beat down. If I've had a beat down for a while and I'm below 4100 I'm mostly with Masters and high Experts and maybe a random low Champs. Once I cross that 4100 mark I can look around and drop and know where I am: surrounding by Leeches, Ares, and AJs all of whom are higher level Champs when I look at the results screen. It's frustrating.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 11, 2019 16:43:19 GMT -5
There are a few things stacked in the Champions League player's favor...
Higher Honor Points just for being in their league - meaning that Champions League player that does a pitiful job can still out score an Expert player that wiped the floor clean of Reds.
Ag Payouts are obviously going to be better for the higher league players if they are matched with Experts and Masters that aren't up to their level... meaning top place rewards (Au) and dailies that require top place are not reachable (ahem... platinum task that won't go away... I'm talking about you).
Daily supply crate is better.
You get the gist... This keeps the lower league players where they are and allows Champions League players to continue to increase the gap. I'm sure the goal is to entice EL and Masters League players to do whatever they can to gain cups and upgrade but it's not working on me. Masters is as far as I want to go with an averaged level 9-ish hangar.
But I can see why others would feel the need to climb.
Pix know what they are doing and I would venture a guess that your plight will fall on deaf ears... but nothing wrong in venting. I agree with the sentiment completely.
IMO, YMMV
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