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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 14:53:49 GMT -5
And that's perfectly fine for them to do that too, as they know that you're already on the hook, nobody is forcing you to buy, and you've come too far to turn back with meta pursuit, crack etc.
... Yea, I know it's fine for them because it increases their revenue. But I just have to say that if I were spending player this sort of practice would NOT have been fine by me, as paying customer I'd expect to be rewarded, not penalized for my spending. So in the context of this thread I just wanted paying players to be aware of it so they can decide what to do about it, if anything. I completely agree on the rest. It's sleazy (using your own spending against you) a la drug dealers (no offense to you drug dealers out there, doing more valuable things than Pixonic...).
As offensive as all this might be, it's their call, and only damages relationships, which is something Pixonic isn't interested in.
But what I mean is the other side of it, you don't have to buy, and in situations like this where they no longer offer you good deals, you definitely should not.
In short, it's perfectly fine if their deals policies are harsh, they can't break their OP-nerf to sell more OP, pay to win with crack, but all this is just to their own long term detriment. They see my side (and those that want this change), they just don't agree that this is a healthier financial monetization path, obviously.
Pix doesn't give 2 ?fluffernutter?s about anything outside of meeting short term financial targets, as long as they can pitch their snake oil for a while, it doesn't matter if the truth behind the value of their content gets found out, snakoilology 101
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Post by Destroyer on Nov 18, 2019 14:04:21 GMT -5
Just don’t open the deal box, don’t see it, no temptations. You’re not spending any money anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 14:09:14 GMT -5
Just don’t open the deal box, don’t see it, no temptations. You’re not spending any money anyway. It's fun tho, it's like a momentary window to Pixonic's state of affairs with all things monetization.
There are definitely two games:
- What we do with our imaginary robots on Pixonic's servers - The extent that Pixonic goes to get any and all real money from our pockets
both are very interesting
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 20, 2019 9:33:34 GMT -5
Just don’t open the deal box, don’t see it, no temptations. You’re not spending any money anyway. It's fun tho, it's like a momentary window to Pixonic's state of affairs with all things monetization.
There are definitely two games:
- What we do with our imaginary robots on Pixonic's servers - The extent that Pixonic goes to get any and all real money from our pockets
both are very interesting
You’re moving in the wrong direction there Pix, lmao. I didn’t buy the 600, so what up with this? Am I now to think that the 600 is great deal and should be glad to buy in when it comes around tomorrow?
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Post by mechtout on Nov 20, 2019 9:37:48 GMT -5
It's fun tho, it's like a momentary window to Pixonic's state of affairs with all things monetization.
There are definitely two games:
- What we do with our imaginary robots on Pixonic's servers - The extent that Pixonic goes to get any and all real money from our pockets
both are very interesting
You’re moving in the wrong direction there Pix, lmao. I didn’t buy the 600, so what up with this? Am I now to think that the 600 is great deal and should be glad to buy in when it comes around tomorrow? the value used to say 605%, does that mean the value of AU went down?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 9:40:21 GMT -5
I've passed on the 1000 Au for one USD, every time.
I'd pass on 1,000,000 Au and 100,000,000,000,000 Ag for 1 USD too. I don't care and my appetite to play is still there, but less, and my appetite to spend left a long time ago.
Leech has repulse ability, fitting since the bot is from a repulsive company, that make repulsive monetization policies.
In matches facing CHN and other top spending clans, I'm not sure what to shoot at. I just sit perched on top of a structure, laughing at the joke of mess this game has become.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Nov 20, 2019 9:41:30 GMT -5
figured it would be good to start a “500 Au bonus task for any payment” thread qualifications: - don’t spend RM long enough to get this task you can post your 500 club screen shot any time, these pics are from today the point is clear, to show newer players that spending RM in this game is of limited value in regards to competitive play. war robots business model is pay to win, by intentionally out-dating, gradual obsolescence and guaranteed out-classing your content on a continuous basis. This we all already know but if you don’t mind not having the latest Phildo soon after the Phildo release, you can upgrade this later, but the first priority should be getting a hangar leveled with gear that YOU enjoy. Pix tries their very best to manipulate your ego into spending RM. consider better options that are available to you and all players at no cost... paying players are appreciated and needed, apparently there are lots of them, but this thread is a beacon for the few and proud, 500 club players I am in the 500 club right now, Earl, but I am not at my PC to do the screenshot for this thread at the moment (I play the FBGR version). However, I will not be in the 500 club in a couple weeks, because I will buy the operation at the end of the season. Why buy it? Because TT Falcon is my go to bot, I have always wanted the Blackbird paint for it, and I did not play enough to reach level 80 for the Praetorian skin. At my current rate, I will be lucky to hit ops level 60. Besides, the Praetorian skin is ugly AF anyway.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 20, 2019 9:43:34 GMT -5
You’re moving in the wrong direction there Pix, lmao. I didn’t buy the 600, so what up with this? Am I now to think that the 600 is great deal and should be glad to buy in when it comes around tomorrow? the value used to say 605%, does that mean the value of AU went down? Nope, at least they actually changed that part. 600 = 605% value so 500 = 505% value. But with game power-for-sale-hyper-inflation and the general enjoyment/$ I would say it’s more like 5% value. Yo pix, MAYBE if it’s 5k for a buck...maybe. But even then, probably not.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 20, 2019 9:48:48 GMT -5
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Post by mechtout on Nov 20, 2019 9:49:15 GMT -5
the value used to say 605%, does that mean the value of AU went down? Nope, at least they actually changed that part. 600 = 605% value so 500 = 505% value. But with game power-for-sale-hyper-inflation and the general enjoyment/$ I would say it’s more like 5% value. Yo pix, MAYBE if it’s 5k for a buck...maybe. But even then, probably not. Phew okay, was about to say! agree they should include a fun factor lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 4:06:56 GMT -5
Have been playing about a year and a half, and still have a pretty average hangar. I could have dropped some money into the game, then I would still have an average hangar and slightly less money. Think that I'm pretty much playing at the moment just so I can watch ads, I don't think that my motivation to watch ads will survive Titans; especially since the kids are moving to games that let them do new stuff occasionally without paying for it! Talking to people from all over the place on the forum has been very interesting, it has also successfully weaned me off social media, so War Robots isn't a total loss!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 11:23:46 GMT -5
Just scrolling through, I counted about 10 w/500 bonus status. If anyone else wants to post this claim, and the reasons for it, if any, please do so. If I make operations to 100 (free track) that before that season is over and that screen goes away.
I think I might be able to live without an Ancient Tyr, somehow....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 12:11:46 GMT -5
I am there. I will spend money but only on my terms. I would take the 14k Au for $25 again if they would send it to me but no luck. I wonder if you can only get this once... I may also buy some Leech parts as I got “lucky” during the Halloween event and now have 9500 components. Pix needs to rethink their approach on this stuff. The current model is to give you worse offers if you spend $ rather than to reward you for spending. Deals should get better if you spend, not the reverse.
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Post by integeritis on Nov 24, 2019 12:32:18 GMT -5
Pix needs to rethink their approach on this stuff. The current model is to give you worse offers if you spend $ rather than to reward you for spending. Deals should get better if you spend, not the reverse. I got 30 premium for $10 during the summer. It never popped up since then, but I see this 45 day for $15 all the time, which I don’t want.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 13:00:44 GMT -5
I am there. I will spend money but only on my terms. I would take the 14k Au for $25 again if they would send it to me but no luck. I wonder if you can only get this once... I may also buy some Leech parts as I got “lucky” during the Halloween event and now have 9500 components. Pix needs to rethink their approach on this stuff. The current model is to give you worse offers if you spend $ rather than to reward you for spending. Deals should get better if you spend, not the reverse. I guess my own experience, industry that I work in, relationships etc. is so far removed from the app game dev world I just can't understand this logic or approach to business.
If we perform well, we get rewarded and trusted more for future work. This incentivizes us to perform well for our customers. Pix, no, they seem to have no interest in retaining customers other than the latter of two types I feel they are interested in, and all else are incentive to be churned out (below).
I mean to say, the only thing that makes any sense to me is the following two customer types (that Pix seems interested in):
- customer type 1: download, spend, get fed up, leave....rinse and repeat with high player churn - customer type 2: download, spend, chase meta...retain these customers by ensuring the newer meta will dominate older meta, and skill can't bridge the gap
Some S-clan rivals on discord ping @everyone...something like "looking for X number of pilots, must be active and have updated hangars". Customer type 2, while there may still be a lot of these, not soooo many, as I face the same Champions League players again and again. I've faced a lot of forum goers too, see them regularly, and I don't play that much, as I did prior to Aug 19. As far are our clan goes, the opinion of Pix have never been good, but the level of contempt for them now had never been more intense, and I can only imagine what will happen when players spend heaps on Titans which suffer the same fate as all other cash cow content.
Customer 1 probably is a huge number (in terms of number of downloaders that fall under this category, head count etc.), customer 2 is a much smaller number, but they spend a lot more. 80/20?
Any comments, criticism on my assumptions are welcome.
Saying all this, I have about 26,000-27,000 total played games in roughly 2 years, been in lots of clans, met a lot of great folks etc.
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Post by heavypiece on Nov 27, 2019 16:51:50 GMT -5
Just now. Last purchase was the Operations Pass. Today’s Hanger Current Stats I don’t spend real money very often. I purchased the Operations Pass because I wanted the skin for my Nemesis. I still had to play a bit in order to get it. I have not purchased any Bots or Weapons. Chests and The WS only and I have 40+ Bots, all different. A pilot can spend money for equipment if they want, but it is not required in order to have a nice collection of Bots and Weapons.
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Post by go red on Nov 29, 2019 20:57:02 GMT -5
Let's take this to the next level:
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Nov 30, 2019 5:49:00 GMT -5
not gonna post my hangar because despite spending serious dolphin $$$ over 2 years it’s not even remotely meta now that Pix rolls out new super OP every couple months. Not a single phantom or leech to be had. I’m a serious OP killer 8 months ago !!! im hardcore f2p now. Going to troll the supply chests and daily gold to very slowly develop the necessary maxed last stans and maybe some other modules. Collect old phones and get as many devices as I can collecting supply chest silver daily. it’ll ever happen but I might buy ops and premium if they returned to the first example. I’m just trolling around now and watching for the end with morbid curiosity. Scrape up some free silver and gold with free vids and maybe grind some videos too. 1, the game seriously isn’t even fun anymore since it was truly ruined by last stan and phase shift. I came in 2.5 years ago and Enjoyed the ambush single attack kill. Stalking and timing skills were actually fun. Peekaboo and chipping away at a target just isn’t that much fun. 2, I was silly and naively looked forward to building a top quality maxed hangar and just competing on skill. That’s where I lost interest. When it finally was cemented that unless you drop crazy coin you can’t keep up with the meta I lost interest in spending a dime. Building and planning a hangar was what I enjoyed early on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 11:42:09 GMT -5
Just popped up with 100....should be in the club soon. Note the freebies...I haven’t watched an ad in over a week, just had to deal with the red 3 on the deals button all the time.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 12:55:44 GMT -5
almost end of season update dec will be F2P also, I’ll post these same screens then, to show I haven’t fallen off the wagon...will take a lot of adjustments to get any RM from me again btw, I’m having just as much fun as those dropping coin, without the guilt of giving less than deserving Russian morons any money
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Post by hicycles on Dec 1, 2019 3:50:03 GMT -5
So I broke the vow, and spent $0.99 about a week ago for 1000 gold, plus the 500 bonus (1500 total). It's the only money I've spent so far, and I've been using Google Opinion Rewards for my game budget.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 1, 2019 6:18:10 GMT -5
So I broke the vow, and spent $0.99 about a week ago for 1000 gold, plus the 500 bonus (1500 total). It's the only money I've spent so far, and I've been using Google Opinion Rewards for my game budget. That is a pretty sweet deal. Pix is going the other way with me. Deals just keep getting worse and worse even though it’s coming upon 2 months no spending. I think this is the worst gold-only 0.99 deal I’ve ever scene. I think they are getting tired of my complaining.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Dec 1, 2019 6:51:12 GMT -5
So I broke the vow, and spent $0.99 about a week ago for 1000 gold, plus the 500 bonus (1500 total). It's the only money I've spent so far, and I've been using Google Opinion Rewards for my game budget. That is a pretty sweet deal. Pix is going the other way with me. Deals just keep getting worse and worse even though it’s coming upon 2 months no spending. I think this is the worst gold-only 0.99 deal I’ve ever scene. I think they are getting tired of my complaining. I am seeing worse deals as well. I am not spending a penny on the game. I am playing much less also. Mostly, it is because with Activision’s latest release, I now have a point of comparison for how Pixo could have treated its players for years.
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Post by cav8r on Dec 1, 2019 12:20:42 GMT -5
figured it would be good to start a “500 Au bonus task for any payment” thread qualifications: - don’t spend RM long enough to get this task you can post your 500 club screen shot any time, these pics are from today the point is clear, to show newer players that spending RM in this game is of limited value in regards to competitive play. war robots business model is pay to win, by intentionally out-dating, gradual obsolescence and guaranteed out-classing your content on a continuous basis. This we all already know but if you don’t mind not having the latest Phildo soon after the Phildo release, you can upgrade this later, but the first priority should be getting a hangar leveled with gear that YOU enjoy. Pix tries their very best to manipulate your ego into spending RM. consider better options that are available to you and all players at no cost... paying players are appreciated and needed, apparently there are lots of them, but this thread is a beacon for the few and proud, 500 club players Sign me in bro! Few and proud, Oorah!
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Post by cav8r on Dec 1, 2019 12:24:00 GMT -5
Just don’t open the deal box, don’t see it, no temptations. You’re not spending any money anyway. I just enjoy to see them begging me
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Post by Eradicator1 on Dec 1, 2019 13:12:25 GMT -5
Just don’t open the deal box, don’t see it, no temptations. You’re not spending any money anyway. I just enjoy to see them begging me Not being a wise guy, but I thought you gave the game up?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 13:49:06 GMT -5
So I broke the vow, and spent $0.99 about a week ago for 1000 gold, plus the 500 bonus (1500 total). It's the only money I've spent so far, and I've been using Google Opinion Rewards for my game budget. Traitor!
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Post by cav8r on Dec 1, 2019 20:46:39 GMT -5
I just enjoy to see them begging me Not being a wise guy, but I thought you gave the game up? I did...! That’s why you can see all the tasks mummifying there on my screenshot! I just keep lurking the forum from time to time, after 3 years here I feel related and it kinda feels like a virtual high school to me, which I enjoy. Today I saw this post and logged into the game just to see if I had the same offer. But top reason to keep checking in the forum is to see when some appreciated mates here also quit and liberate...I’m not trying to lure anyone to do it but I’ll feel very good for them when the time comes...
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Post by shivaswrath on Dec 1, 2019 21:30:38 GMT -5
I'll be joining the 5000 club soon.
Wife ripped me a new one on War Robots spending so F2p. Fawk.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 8:48:51 GMT -5
Not being a wise guy, but I thought you gave the game up? I did...! That’s why you can see all the tasks mummifying there on my screenshot! I just keep lurking the forum from time to time, after 3 years here I feel related and it kinda feels like a virtual high school to me, which I enjoy. Today I saw this post and logged into the game just to see if I had the same offer. But top reason to keep checking in the forum is to see when some appreciated mates here also quit and liberate...I’m not trying to lure anyone to do it but I’ll feel very good for them when the time comes... F2P, 30 min/day This is my way forward, for as long as the game lasts
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