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Post by Browncoats4ever on Nov 6, 2019 6:27:27 GMT -5
I burst my Phantom cherry today! I didn't expect it to go so well. Phantom is a force of its own. I was planning to level my weapons a bit more before dropping into battle, but I couldn't wait. I did level the bot to MK2 11. I'm running Halo/Corona which are currently level 6 but they do some damage. I'm planning to get them to 9 at least. I used the Blink to give speed burst, dropping the locator behind cover in case of need. Unfortunately I didn't use it to evade destruction. I capped 4 quick Beacons and killed 3 Reds before I succumbed to damage. Yeah, I need practice and I'll enjoy every minute. I wonder if I should use PS or SB? My Pilot is still level 1 so it can only get better.
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Post by shad3z on Nov 6, 2019 7:27:48 GMT -5
I'm starting to really hate that bot so am reluctant to give out advice...
However: IMO the speed of Phantom will easily allow you to get into the purple bubble of a Greek bot making SB redundant. Adding PS however will make it virtually unstoppable. Using PS while attacking will allow it to cover a lot of distance during PS and the same goes while retreating.
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Post by mystic spastic on Nov 6, 2019 7:57:39 GMT -5
Ffffing Phantoms, indeed.
Though with 7500 components from events, one is on my build list...
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Nov 6, 2019 8:36:47 GMT -5
I don't know how some people are defending this bot and saying that it is OK they way it is.
A tiny bot that has the hitbox the size of a tennis ball and basically the same base health as a Fury or Bulwark with damage reduction and the speed of a Pursuer but with better weaponry is taking the piss. Throw in the teleport function just because Pixonic.
Not even going to mention (too late) the ridiculously long ability time with equally ridiculous low cooldown time and you have typical Pixonic layers of P2W bull「dookie」tery.
Did I mention that I want one?....... But with only 2500 components so far, looks like I won't have one for a while.
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Post by Munki on Nov 6, 2019 9:49:49 GMT -5
I burst my Phantom cherry today! I didn't expect it to go so well. Phantom is a force of its own. I was planning to level my weapons a bit more before dropping into battle, but I couldn't wait. I did level the bot to MK2 11. I'm running Halo/Corona which are currently level 6 but they do some damage. I'm planning to get them to 9 at least. I used the Blink to give speed burst, dropping the locator behind cover in case of need. Unfortunately I didn't use it to evade destruction. I capped 4 quick Beacons and killed 3 Reds before I succumbed to damage. Yeah, I need practice and I'll enjoy every minute. I wonder if I should use PS or SB? My Pilot is still level 1 so it can only get better. Just got this bot on Saturday. Using the basic healing active module until my mechanic pilot skill is done. Then, the active can be changed to your favorite and a Last Stand can be added. I find using Last Stand with healing active modules to not work well; if Last Stand activates when the healing is activated, no healing occurs over the activation period. I did not have 2 leveled light weapons but find using an Ecu Shield useful on the Phantom. There are a lot of fun techniques to do with this bot for sure. I like leaving the trans-locator on a beacon, then running away if there is a red nearby. He chases me and when he is outside the capture circle, pop back in and blast them in the back. Many players do not have good battlefield awareness for this bot yet. GOOD TIMES (Trolling)!
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Nov 6, 2019 10:30:54 GMT -5
On Phantom, Advanced Repair Unit seems to be better than PS in most situations.
Igniter Halo is a very good build....actually better than Storm or Corona in CQC - it was tested
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Post by teraflx on Nov 6, 2019 10:44:20 GMT -5
Most of the high level ones I see in champs run maxed last stand and then also phase shift. Almost unkillable at that point with a good person piloting them.Also most top ones I see are running some sort of shot gun build.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Nov 6, 2019 10:57:35 GMT -5
On Phantom, Advanced Repair Unit seems to be better than PS in most situations. Igniter Halo is a very good build....actually better than Storm or Corona in CQC - it was tested I have my Freedom Igniter I've yet to level. Maybe someday...
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Post by orionpax on Nov 6, 2019 11:02:39 GMT -5
I burst my Phantom cherry today! I didn't expect it to go so well. Phantom is a force of its own. I was planning to level my weapons a bit more before dropping into battle, but I couldn't wait. I did level the bot to MK2 11. I'm running Halo/Corona which are currently level 6 but they do some damage. I'm planning to get them to 9 at least. I used the Blink to give speed burst, dropping the locator behind cover in case of need. Unfortunately I didn't use it to evade destruction. I capped 4 quick Beacons and killed 3 Reds before I succumbed to damage. Yeah, I need practice and I'll enjoy every minute. I wonder if I should use PS or SB? My Pilot is still level 1 so it can only get better. . I use ps as it’s my main beacon capper
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Post by dis on Nov 6, 2019 11:28:32 GMT -5
I have done quite well in events so far, got a leech, skin and pilot, behemoth (in one hit ) and recently enough components for a phantom. Although I can see why people say this bot is OP, I find it really great fun to play, so dam fast when ability active. I prefer to have this bot in my hanger than the leech as I find it find it more enjoyable. In answer to OP question once you have some pilot skill for healing I think PS is probably one of the better active modules. If you are able to add anti control then that is quite very useful to.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 6, 2019 12:05:04 GMT -5
I don't know how some people are defending this bot and saying that it is OK they way it is. A tiny bot that has the hitbox the size of a tennis ball and basically the same base health as a Fury or Bulwark with damage reduction and the speed of a Pursuer but with better weaponry is taking the piss. Throw in the teleport function just because Pixonic. Not even going to mention (too late) the ridiculously long ability time with equally ridiculous low cooldown time and you have typical Pixonic layers of P2W bull?dookie?tery. Did I mention that I want one?....... But with only 2500 components so far, looks like I won't have one for a while. My feelings exactly, lol. Hate it, want it. Not willing to tone down my playing to lower my league rating, while boycotting most of top meta is challenging. I skipped Greeks and Rags (not that Rags are OP), and succumbed to running 1 Ao Jun. Boycotting Leech and PS leaves Phantom as my choice to try and stay vaguely relevant in upper Champions League. I’m half way there and still 2 weeks left in the event. Hoping for some free goodness.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 12:18:06 GMT -5
I don't know how some people are defending this bot and saying that it is OK they way it is. A tiny bot that has the hitbox the size of a tennis ball and basically the same base health as a Fury or Bulwark with damage reduction and the speed of a Pursuer but with better weaponry is taking the piss. Throw in the teleport function just because Pixonic. Not even going to mention (too late) the ridiculously long ability time with equally ridiculous low cooldown time and you have typical Pixonic layers of P2W bull?dookie?tery. Did I mention that I want one?....... But with only 2500 components so far, looks like I won't have one for a while. I agree about the ability times, but it's all relative I guess. It came out at the same (?) time as the Leech, so it's hard not to compare the two, and of the two, I find the Leech far, far more difficult and soul destroying to deal with. In fact, I'd rather tangle with one of those than a T Falcon, which you just have to pretty much ignore. Mine is a L8 one without any of the toys (basic armour modules, L11 basic pilot) and it's just okay, I cause much more havoc with my Persuer. I think that the toys - Last Stand, PS, HAKs, MK2 everything, pilots etc etc - are the main part of the problem.
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Post by foxypotato on Nov 6, 2019 12:47:46 GMT -5
How can you hate it and want it at the same time? At 7500 componets I'm seriously thinking about selling them as I slowly grow to hate the bot. If you hate the bot wouldn't you want to sell off all components of it so as not to be part of the problem you perceive to be plaguing the game?
Phantoms at the same level as my bots in random play seem fine but the ones in the death squads are brutal and seem broken with their HP, ability duration and movement speeds. I'm still on the fence about the bot myself.
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Post by josh378 on Nov 6, 2019 12:57:41 GMT -5
Hey I'll trade you my near MK2 leech for your near MK2 Phantom ?.
I really want Phantom because it matches my playstyle. Plus I don't have to wait on the pilot before I go all out and build it(no Leech pilot yet)
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Post by Eradicator1 on Nov 6, 2019 13:23:05 GMT -5
I don't know how some people are defending this bot and saying that it is OK they way it is. A tiny bot that has the hitbox the size of a tennis ball and basically the same base health as a Fury or Bulwark with damage reduction and the speed of a Pursuer but with better weaponry is taking the piss. Throw in the teleport function just because Pixonic. Not even going to mention (too late) the ridiculously long ability time with equally ridiculous low cooldown time and you have typical Pixonic layers of P2W bull?dookie?tery. Did I mention that I want one?....... But with only 2500 components so far, looks like I won't have one for a while. I recognize it as OP, but you can at least shoot it. Most people hate that “other bot”, but not so much this one. Weird huh? Maybe because it looks so cute? Couldn’t possibly hurt you right? Played it on the skirmish and was fun. Most likely will build or buy the rest of the shards needed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 16:28:31 GMT -5
I don't know how some people are defending this bot and saying that it is OK they way it is. A tiny bot that has the hitbox the size of a tennis ball and basically the same base health as a Fury or Bulwark with damage reduction and the speed of a Pursuer but with better weaponry is taking the piss. Throw in the teleport function just because Pixonic. Not even going to mention (too late) the ridiculously long ability time with equally ridiculous low cooldown time and you have typical Pixonic layers of P2W bull?dookie?tery. Did I mention that I want one?....... But with only 2500 components so far, looks like I won't have one for a while. My feelings exactly, lol. Hate it, want it. Not willing to tone down my playing to lower my league rating, while boycotting most of top meta is challenging. I skipped Greeks and Rags (not that Rags are OP), and succumbed to running 1 Ao Jun. Boycotting Leech and PS leaves Phantom as my choice to try and stay vaguely relevant in upper Champions League. I’m half way there and still 2 weeks left in the event. Hoping for some free goodness. I’m in mid Champions League it’s not that bad down here. phantom is fun bot. But my Ao Jun is better. Like my Hover too since it uses High Ground and it’s been proven to be OP. phantom is like 2 tie fighters whizzing by each other. Hard to aim even with shottyes. Good luck if you have old man reflexes. not that durable I use it as beacon capper so it lasts 5 seconds standing in the middle with 6 reds shooting you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 16:34:34 GMT -5
How can you hate it and want it at the same time? At 7500 componets I'm seriously thinking about selling them as I slowly grow to hate the bot. If you hate the bot wouldn't you want to sell off all components of it so as not to be part of the problem you perceive to be plaguing the game? Phantoms at the same level as my bots in random play seem fine but the ones in the death squads are brutal and seem broken with their HP, ability duration and movement speeds. I'm still on the fence about the bot myself. I own one and it’s confusing. My phantom seems squishy AF and whale phantom are OP. It’s the Ao Jun and Fen again. You gotta max them out if you want them OP.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 6, 2019 16:37:13 GMT -5
My feelings exactly, lol. Hate it, want it. Not willing to tone down my playing to lower my league rating, while boycotting most of top meta is challenging. I skipped Greeks and Rags (not that Rags are OP), and succumbed to running 1 Ao Jun. Boycotting Leech and PS leaves Phantom as my choice to try and stay vaguely relevant in upper Champions League. I’m half way there and still 2 weeks left in the event. Hoping for some free goodness. I’m in mid Champions League it’s not that bad down here. phantom is fun bot. But my Ao Jun is better. Like my Hover too since it uses High Ground and it’s been proven to be OP. phantom is like 2 tie fighters whizzing by each other. Hard to aim even with shottyes. Good luck if you have old man reflexes. not that durable I use it as beacon capper so it lasts 5 seconds standing in the middle with 6 reds shooting you. Aiming and reflexes still pretty good for an old man, lol. Snap shots in a 180 spin mid-falcon jump for the trident kill on that guy at my six and suppressing a wide spread variety of targets w blitz (11, 2 and 6 on the clock is my record, surprised the crap out of the guy behind me), as well as full tilt blitz sideways running/shooting, keeps me sharp. And Phantom looks most deadly in packs, most of the guys I squad w have em an I can barely keep up w fully charged Strider.
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 6, 2019 16:41:57 GMT -5
On Phantom, Advanced Repair Unit seems to be better than PS in most situations. Igniter Halo is a very good build....actually better than Storm or Corona in CQC - it was tested Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 16:46:05 GMT -5
How can you hate it and want it at the same time? At 7500 componets I'm seriously thinking about selling them as I slowly grow to hate the bot. If you hate the bot wouldn't you want to sell off all components of it so as not to be part of the problem you perceive to be plaguing the game? Phantoms at the same level as my bots in random play seem fine but the ones in the death squads are brutal and seem broken with their HP, ability duration and movement speeds. I'm still on the fence about the bot myself. I own one and it’s confusing. My phantom seems squishy AF and whale phantom are OP. It’s the Ao Jun and Fen again. You gotta max them out if you want them OP. I think that's exactly right, my experience is the same, although I am starting to get more time out of it. Pix have gotten really good at creating bots that need lots of resources dumped into them, eh?
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Nov 6, 2019 16:48:30 GMT -5
On Phantom, Advanced Repair Unit seems to be better than PS in most situations. Igniter Halo is a very good build....actually better than Storm or Corona in CQC - it was tested Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 18:53:05 GMT -5
I’m in mid Champions League it’s not that bad down here. phantom is fun bot. But my Ao Jun is better. Like my Hover too since it uses High Ground and it’s been proven to be OP. phantom is like 2 tie fighters whizzing by each other. Hard to aim even with shottyes. Good luck if you have old man reflexes. not that durable I use it as beacon capper so it lasts 5 seconds standing in the middle with 6 reds shooting you. Aiming and reflexes still pretty good for an old man, lol. Snap shots in a 180 spin mid-falcon jump for the trident kill on that guy at my six and suppressing a wide spread variety of targets w blitz (11, 2 and 6 on the clock is my record, surprised the crap out of the guy behind me), as well as full tilt blitz sideways running/shooting, keeps me sharp. And Phantom looks most deadly in packs, most of the guys I squad w have em an I can barely keep up w fully charged Strider. ok just as long as you are aware. not many talk about this, so maybe others don't have the same issues. I haven't run a shotty build since the days of Carnage Thunder, and a fast bot in your face at 50m since the Stalker Mag. If i can find a ares Ao Jun not moving or frozen, rooted then my phantom can run up to them and delete them pretty fast. Rinse and repeat. But that is very rare. Reds just standing still for ya. Red phantoms and blitzes, very hard to aim for me. Red leeches, they have DR and 4 shotties, so not smart to get up to their grill. If i can run side by side with another phantom with my clan, then it's loads of fun. Both activate ability at the same time, and i will try and watch his flank. Also, coordinated squad pushes are good for phantom, and same basic idea. Like a school of fish for protection. But i mostly consider my phantom a one and done bot. 2 kills if i'm not limping badly after the first bombing run, or i want to use some green crack to get another bombing run in.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 6, 2019 19:24:39 GMT -5
Aiming and reflexes still pretty good for an old man, lol. Snap shots in a 180 spin mid-falcon jump for the trident kill on that guy at my six and suppressing a wide spread variety of targets w blitz (11, 2 and 6 on the clock is my record, surprised the crap out of the guy behind me), as well as full tilt blitz sideways running/shooting, keeps me sharp. And Phantom looks most deadly in packs, most of the guys I squad w have em an I can barely keep up w fully charged Strider. ok just as long as you are aware. not many talk about this, so maybe others don't have the same issues. I haven't run a shotty build since the days of Carnage Thunder, and a fast bot in your face at 50m since the Stalker Mag. If i can find a ares Ao Jun not moving or frozen, rooted then my phantom can run up to them and delete them pretty fast. Rinse and repeat. But that is very rare. Reds just standing still for ya. Red phantoms and blitzes, very hard to aim for me. Red leeches, they have DR and 4 shotties, so not smart to get up to their grill. If i can run side by side with another phantom with my clan, then it's loads of fun. Both activate ability at the same time, and i will try and watch his flank. Also, coordinated squad pushes are good for phantom, and same basic idea. Like a school of fish for protection. But i mostly consider my phantom a one and done bot. 2 kills if i'm not limping badly after the first bombing run, or i want to use some green crack to get another bombing run in. I expect a painful learning curve, but I frequently get Godlikes w Blitz and I’m hoping the combat style will be somewhat similar.
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Post by orionpax on Nov 6, 2019 19:25:44 GMT -5
On Phantom, Advanced Repair Unit seems to be better than PS in most situations. Igniter Halo is a very good build....actually better than Storm or Corona in CQC - it was tested Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . Duly noted. Will change ASAP. ?
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 6, 2019 21:18:19 GMT -5
Your either a Phantom or Leech lover
Can't be both.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Nov 6, 2019 22:43:24 GMT -5
Your either a Phantom or Leech lover Can't be both. I'll test that theory when I unleash my Leech in a month or two.
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Post by orionpax on Nov 6, 2019 22:56:36 GMT -5
Your either a Phantom or Leech lover Can't be both. . Leech is boring. I have one that I try to run only against other leeches/spawn raids or when we’re down and need some serious help. I’d trade it for a phantom in a heart beat.
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 6, 2019 23:05:51 GMT -5
Maybe I'm doing it wrong? The invulnerable raider has been awesome....but maybe the Scourge isn't bueno? Corona didn't work too far as you dash in. I'm hoping to spin road hog next skill.....
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Post by mechtout on Nov 6, 2019 23:57:17 GMT -5
Phantom is the strongest bot imo with that speed and DR. MK2 charging is ridiculous
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Post by Blurred Vision on Nov 7, 2019 8:53:57 GMT -5
I own one and it’s confusing. My phantom seems squishy AF and whale phantom are OP. It’s the Ao Jun and Fen again. You gotta max them out if you want them OP. I think that's exactly right, my experience is the same, although I am starting to get more time out of it. Pix have gotten really good at creating bots that need lots of resources dumped into them, eh? Me three. My Phantom is only L9 (whenI typically bring any bot to the field for its trial runs) but it seems super soft and an easy mark. I'm following advice from previous posts and upgrading a Freedom Ingniter to pair with Halos and will push to Mk1 L12 before really trying to get good and fight with effect. Good luck y'all!
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