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Post by hkang on Oct 15, 2019 20:52:18 GMT -5
With the release of leech and upcoming Titans, will the tanks remain powerful? My hangar is mainly consisted of tanks(fenrir, Lancelot, and invader) and I'm worried that the proliferation of new bots might render my hangar obsolete.
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Post by shivaswrath on Oct 15, 2019 21:14:24 GMT -5
Never over commit....try a s diversify if you can.
Get a heal bot.
Build a dragon one.
Thar way you're future proofed.
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Post by Desc440 on Oct 15, 2019 21:20:59 GMT -5
Leech is actually a step down from Ares and Ao Jun in terms of threat to tanks. Titans will probably wipe the floor with pretty much everything, so I don't see tanks being hit any harder than other bots.
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Post by josh378 on Oct 15, 2019 21:41:13 GMT -5
Leech is actually a step down from Ares and Ao Jun in terms of threat to tanks. Titans will probably wipe the floor with pretty much everything, so I don't see tanks being hit any harder than other bots. Leech with MK2 shotgun makes quick work vs tanks. Nine seconds is a long time to wait. Just hope your teammates are smart enough to not shoot the stupid bot during its ability. Make a healing tank. Is there any comparison threads on Healing tanks? Tyr vs Mender vs Wayland? I would love to see which makes the better tank.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 22:47:42 GMT -5
Leech is actually a step down from Ares and Ao Jun in terms of threat to tanks. Titans will probably wipe the floor with pretty much everything, so I don't see tanks being hit any harder than other bots. Leech with MK2 shotgun makes quick work vs tanks. Nine seconds is a long time to wait. Just hope your teammates are smart enough to not shoot the stupid bot during its ability. Make a healing tank. Is there any comparison threads on Healing tanks? Tyr vs Mender vs Wayland? I would love to see which makes the better tank. I run a L12 Bulwark, L12 Weyland, and L7 Tyr. Bulwark is not in the meta anymore, but it's really old now. Still hangs in there. In the beginning, i made it 1 year ago when pursuer and merc would stomp me. Then they pass. Then Quantum Radar came out. Then modules, and then the Fortifier mod. Bully still gets stomped by meta bots, but Fen users are jelly of my Bigger Aegis shield. Tyr and Weyland are both good bots. Weyland heals Tank bots and most bots faster. Way faster. Tyr is good for following DR bots like TFalc, and can heal them while they get dmg. My weyland survives better using Superheal to Ao Jun. Tyr is sitting duck. Weyland gets 2 shotted by shottie Leech. No time for heal to kick in. Tyr is stronger vs Ares due to physical shield. Both Tyr and Weyland can wail on HP heavy Tanks, like maxed out Fen or TFalc. But my weyland performs a bit better. My Tyr like i said, is weaker.
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Post by AVC on Oct 16, 2019 3:48:38 GMT -5
Thar way you're future proofed. Yeah, for a few weeks anyway. Until the next OP bot/wep/skill/module/magic wand comes out. Then you're back to getting clubbed again.
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Post by josh378 on Oct 16, 2019 7:45:05 GMT -5
Leech with MK2 shotgun makes quick work vs tanks. Nine seconds is a long time to wait. Just hope your teammates are smart enough to not shoot the stupid bot during its ability. Make a healing tank. Is there any comparison threads on Healing tanks? Tyr vs Mender vs Wayland? I would love to see which makes the better tank. I run a L12 Bulwark, L12 Weyland, and L7 Tyr. Bulwark is not in the meta anymore, but it's really old now. Still hangs in there. In the beginning, i made it 1 year ago when pursuer and merc would stomp me. Then they pass. Then Quantum Radar came out. Then modules, and then the Fortifier mod. Bully still gets stomped by meta bots, but Fen users are jelly of my Bigger Aegis shield. Tyr and Weyland are both good bots. Weyland heals Tank bots and most bots faster. Way faster. Tyr is good for following DR bots like TFalc, and can heal them while they get dmg. My weyland survives better using Superheal to Ao Jun. Tyr is sitting duck. Weyland gets 2 shotted by shottie Leech. No time for heal to kick in. Tyr is stronger vs Ares due to physical shield. Both Tyr and Weyland can wail on HP heavy Tanks, like maxed out Fen or TFalc. But my weyland performs a bit better. My Tyr like i said, is weaker. Crap I was hoping that tyr would be a good bot to use against the meta. I guess I'll have to go and invest into the wayland that I have. Leech really messed up the Meta game.
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Post by Joopiter on Oct 16, 2019 8:32:56 GMT -5
Sorry for repeating since this point was kinda already made, but Tanks are tanks because of crazy HP. Leeches are glass cannons. All bots are at risk vs a leech but IMO tanks stand a greater chance at survival than a more balanced firepower/hp bot. I've actually had some really good luck with my invader vs leeches and I'm leveling a stan pilot to make it even more effective at shutting down those four shotguns. A t-fal is a little more difficult because of the lower firepower, but the 35% dmg reflected on a maxed out t-fal's hp pool is minor.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Oct 16, 2019 9:17:12 GMT -5
Many (many!) folks have said don't spend too much time/money on bots, spend it on (meta) weapons. Man, they are right. I've seen my share of meta bots come and go but guys who are smarter than me just move their nicely-leveled Coronas/Halos/Scourges/Sparks to the next meta bot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:55:01 GMT -5
The problem with Leech is less it shooting, at least if levels are close....it is randoms shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot when the mother 「fluffernutter」er is tethered to me.
That 「dookie」 is getting old.........
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Post by raidenii on Oct 16, 2019 16:15:45 GMT -5
The problem with Leech is less it shooting, at least if levels are close....it is randoms shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot when the mother ?fluffernutter?er is tethered to me. That ?dookie? is getting old......... People had been shooting it even when I am been tethered. So I do the same too. Some bot has to be sacrificed in order to get rid of it quick.
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Oct 16, 2019 16:25:12 GMT -5
I run a L12 Bulwark, L12 Weyland, and L7 Tyr. Bulwark is not in the meta anymore, but it's really old now. Still hangs in there. In the beginning, i made it 1 year ago when pursuer and merc would stomp me. Then they pass. Then Quantum Radar came out. Then modules, and then the Fortifier mod. Bully still gets stomped by meta bots, but Fen users are jelly of my Bigger Aegis shield. Tyr and Weyland are both good bots. Weyland heals Tank bots and most bots faster. Way faster. Tyr is good for following DR bots like TFalc, and can heal them while they get dmg. My weyland survives better using Superheal to Ao Jun. Tyr is sitting duck. Weyland gets 2 shotted by shottie Leech. No time for heal to kick in. Tyr is stronger vs Ares due to physical shield. Both Tyr and Weyland can wail on HP heavy Tanks, like maxed out Fen or TFalc. But my weyland performs a bit better. My Tyr like i said, is weaker. Crap I was hoping that tyr would be a good bot to use against the meta. I guess I'll have to go and invest into the wayland that I have. Leech really messed up the Meta game. Tyr works best with weapons that you don't have to worry about reloading. This puts shotguns, Marquess and Magnums at the top of the list. Sting and Sparks are good to an extent as well, but Tyr is not a great brawler, because it can only be regenerating HP OR working at full weapons/speed at one time. With the right Pilot skills, Weyland gains 20% resistance when stationary on top of regen increased by True Ace and Mechanic. My Weyland regularly runs out of HP to recover before going down. Pair with as many armor kits and the ARK for best results.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Oct 16, 2019 16:48:12 GMT -5
Leech kills tanky bots like falcon dead.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 16:58:01 GMT -5
Leech kills tanky bots like falcon dead. As a tanky brawly hangar owner/operator....^^^^^truth
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Oct 16, 2019 17:01:46 GMT -5
War Robots has become a game of who can last the longest, which is a durability test. Combat longevity has always relied on good use of cover, good timing of strikes, not over-exposing to enemy fire, and higher level robots.
We now have the additional competition of Last Stand, various active and passive modules, durability pilot skills, special damage resist mech qualities, durability pilots or paint jobs, huge health pools on certain mechs, Mk2 and so on.
In particular, the ability to combine Phase Shift with module pilot skills has created a tactical resource competition. The one who has the best gear and best decisions will usually win. This is a general snapshot of course, because there are numerous conditions in a match that also contribute to whether or not you win against someone, such as hp levels, who made the best decisions, how many people are firing at which target and so on.
So as far as tanks go, yes, the Titans are coming, as well as powerful cryo-rockets. I am of the opinion that durability has become the most important element of War Robots, so everything you can do to increase that will translate into combat longevity.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 17:43:49 GMT -5
I run a L12 Bulwark, L12 Weyland, and L7 Tyr. Bulwark is not in the meta anymore, but it's really old now. Still hangs in there. In the beginning, i made it 1 year ago when pursuer and merc would stomp me. Then they pass. Then Quantum Radar came out. Then modules, and then the Fortifier mod. Bully still gets stomped by meta bots, but Fen users are jelly of my Bigger Aegis shield. Tyr and Weyland are both good bots. Weyland heals Tank bots and most bots faster. Way faster. Tyr is good for following DR bots like TFalc, and can heal them while they get dmg. My weyland survives better using Superheal to Ao Jun. Tyr is sitting duck. Weyland gets 2 shotted by shottie Leech. No time for heal to kick in. Tyr is stronger vs Ares due to physical shield. Both Tyr and Weyland can wail on HP heavy Tanks, like maxed out Fen or TFalc. But my weyland performs a bit better. My Tyr like i said, is weaker. Crap I was hoping that tyr would be a good bot to use against the meta. I guess I'll have to go and invest into the wayland that I have. Leech really messed up the Meta game. Tyr is still a good enough bot to use in the meta. I would use the legs of Tyr to run away from anything that can kill you. I use both bots in my hanger. If you just want the extra 400HP, then Tyr will do. I mean, these are support bots. Sometimes i don't run the Support bots because i drop them last meaning they don't see battle sometimes.
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