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Post by jukenukem on Oct 5, 2019 2:59:21 GMT -5
So I'm in a dilemma. I have 2.5k gold and have a basic silver pilot with 3 skills on my Ao Jun, and one fortifier with 2 max silver armour modules on my Bulwark. My question is should I get a second fortifier or a Ao Jun legend pilot? I'm torn. I really want the damage boost from the pilot but that would mean training it from scratch so I'm leaning toward a 2nd fortifier and just make do with the silver pilot. Any ideas?
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Post by eluray on Oct 5, 2019 4:17:45 GMT -5
What weapons are you running on your Ao Jun? Alika is only worth it if you go close on every attack (Ember, Redemer) imo If you run Avengers sharpshooter would be a better skill
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Post by jukenukem on Oct 5, 2019 4:49:29 GMT -5
What weapons are you running on your Ao Jun? Alika is only worth it if you go close on every attack (Ember, Redemer) imo If you run Avengers sharpshooter would be a better skill I'm running Embers. I have noticed that sometimes I don't kill a bot on one flyby and the built in flames don't do as much damage on their own. Probably because I have The Ao Jun levelled to only 9. The increased ability damage might help with this but its daunting thinking of starting to train a new pilot.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Oct 5, 2019 5:02:27 GMT -5
I would vote against the pilot. Modules can move to other bots, Legendary pilots lose a skill if you move them.
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Post by TerminatorWR on Oct 5, 2019 8:09:53 GMT -5
I would purchase neither of them.
Bulwark is kind of weak in current meta (Phantom and Leech), especially for Champions League battles, so 2500 Au for a Fortifier would be wasted imo.
Ao Jun Legend Pilot is no no unless you have plenty of gold to get it to level 50+ because there are four more important pilot skills than that unique skill.
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Post by jukenukem on Oct 5, 2019 9:38:54 GMT -5
I guess then it's a no no to the pilot. I do love my Bulwark and so far (without shieldbreaker) its the 2nd best bot in my hangar in terms of survivability and damage but I see why getting a 2nd Fortifier might be a waste soon. Maybe then I should get a 4th skill for my Ao Jun pilot? It costs 1.5k instead of spending all 2.5k.
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 5, 2019 21:32:51 GMT -5
Fortifier of course. I love my Bully with 3 of them plus Armor and Shield Expert mods.
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Post by TerminatorWR on Oct 5, 2019 21:46:53 GMT -5
My Dragon Bulwark served me well for a very long time, especially on big maps… but I had to retire it as I only maintain one hanger and there is simply no spot for the Bulwark any more. Bulwark is just a second-class bot in current meta, so I reckon sooner or later you will have to retire it too Sometimes the Bulwark becomes so hopeless even on big maps like Yamantau (check my video to see what I mean lol)
Back to your original topic, yes the 4th pilot skill for your Ao Jun is a much better choice imo. The most important four pilot skills for Ao Jun are Mechanic, Wonderworker, Armor Expert and Road Hog. If you are short of two of these, roll random to get one of the two, then directly use 1000Au to pick the 4th skill. So, basically it's still 2500Au for the 4th skill, no saving haha
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Post by jukenukem on Oct 6, 2019 1:24:58 GMT -5
My Dragon Bulwark served me well for a very long time, especially on big maps… but I had to retire it as I only maintain one hanger and there is simply no spot for the Bulwark any more. Bulwark is just a second-class bot in current meta, so I reckon sooner or later you will have to retire it too Sometimes the Bulwark becomes so hopeless even on big maps like Yamantau (check my video to see what I mean lol)
Back to your original topic, yes the 4th pilot skill for your Ao Jun is a much better choice imo. The most important four pilot skills for Ao Jun are Mechanic, Wonderworker, Armor Expert and Road Hog. If you are short of two of these, roll random to get one of the two, then directly use 1000Au to pick the 4th skill. So, basically it's still 2500Au for the 4th skill, no saving haha As much as I love my Bully that video convinced me against another fortifier lol. I got wonderworker for my Ao Jun and it took me about 5 random spins. I'll wait for the next time I have 2.5k and I might either consider a 5th skill for the Ao Jun or a 4th skill on one of my other pilots.
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Post by snk on Oct 6, 2019 7:23:28 GMT -5
If you want a legendary pilot, get Adrain.
Because, 1. 5% damage to 3 weapons (2 Ember + 1 build-in Weapon) equal or better than single 15% build-in weapon. (build-in weapon has longer cd/reload) 2. You can retrain and use all pilot's skill on your new bot when your Ao Jun retired. (eg. last skill/promotion count, which mean it may worth 1500/2500/5000/7500 Au.)
or Buy a Modules
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Post by jukenukem on Oct 6, 2019 9:11:19 GMT -5
If you want a legendary pilot, get Adrain. Because, 1. 5% damage to 3 weapons (2 Ember + 1 build-in Weapon) equal or better than single 15% build-in weapon. (build-in weapon has longer cd/reload) 2. You can retrain and use all pilot's skill on your new bot when your Ao Jun retired. (eg. last skill/promotion count, which mean it may worth 1500/2500/5000/7500 Au.) or Buy a Modules Does Adrian increase in built weapon damage?? I thought he didn't? If that's the case then I can switch my Adrian pilot from my Loki to my Ao Jun which would take better advantage of the damage boost.
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 6, 2019 9:46:14 GMT -5
My Dragon Bulwark served me well for a very long time, especially on big maps… but I had to retire it as I only maintain one hanger and there is simply no spot for the Bulwark any more. Bulwark is just a second-class bot in current meta, so I reckon sooner or later you will have to retire it too Sometimes the Bulwark becomes so hopeless even on big maps like Yamantau (check my video to see what I mean lol)
Back to your original topic, yes the 4th pilot skill for your Ao Jun is a much better choice imo. The most important four pilot skills for Ao Jun are Mechanic, Wonderworker, Armor Expert and Road Hog. If you are short of two of these, roll random to get one of the two, then directly use 1000Au to pick the 4th skill. So, basically it's still 2500Au for the 4th skill, no saving haha As much as I love my Bully that video convinced me against another fortifier lol. I got wonderworker for my Ao Jun and it took me about 5 random spins. I'll wait for the next time I have 2.5k and I might either consider a 5th skill for the Ao Jun or a 4th skill on one of my other pilots. In defense of Bullys I offer a small sample of my Bully in play. He can take a lot of fire before going down. Im in low Champs Android, bot is lvl 10.
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Post by jukenukem on Oct 6, 2019 10:32:20 GMT -5
As much as I love my Bully that video convinced me against another fortifier lol. I got wonderworker for my Ao Jun and it took me about 5 random spins. I'll wait for the next time I have 2.5k and I might either consider a 5th skill for the Ao Jun or a 4th skill on one of my other pilots. In defense of Bullys I offer a small sample of my Bully in play. He can take a lot of fire before going down. Im in low Champs Android, bot is lvl 10. I have mine at lvl9, also in low champ and I love it as I can absorb a lot of damage when played right. How many fortifiers do you have on it?
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 6, 2019 12:05:11 GMT -5
In defense of Bullys I offer a small sample of my Bully in play. He can take a lot of fire before going down. Im in low Champs Android, bot is lvl 10. I have mine at lvl9, also in low champ and I love it as I can absorb a lot of damage when played right. How many fortifiers do you have on it? I have 3x Fortifiers at level 1 plus Pilot skills such as Armor and Shield Expert.
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Post by TerminatorWR on Oct 6, 2019 17:51:53 GMT -5
If you want a legendary pilot, get Adrain. Because, 1. 5% damage to 3 weapons (2 Ember + 1 build-in Weapon) equal or better than single 15% build-in weapon. (build-in weapon has longer cd/reload) 2. You can retrain and use all pilot's skill on your new bot when your Ao Jun retired. (eg. last skill/promotion count, which mean it may worth 1500/2500/5000/7500 Au.) or Buy a Modules Does Adrian increase in built weapon damage?? I thought he didn't? If that's the case then I can switch my Adrian pilot from my Loki to my Ao Jun which would take better advantage of the damage boost. You're correct. The Adrian Pilot doesn't increase any inbuilt weapon's damage.
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Post by TerminatorWR on Oct 6, 2019 18:02:54 GMT -5
As much as I love my Bully that video convinced me against another fortifier lol. I got wonderworker for my Ao Jun and it took me about 5 random spins. I'll wait for the next time I have 2.5k and I might either consider a 5th skill for the Ao Jun or a 4th skill on one of my other pilots. In defense of Bullys I offer a small sample of my Bully in play. He can take a lot of fire before going down. Im in low Champs Android, bot is lvl 10. Yes, Bulwark is still a quite strong bot in good hands like you, but its strength has become more and more situational. I'm in high Champions League and in a Rank-S clan, and we do full squad battles every day. I've found Bully's survivability is dramatically decreasing in current meta especially when facing Ao Jun, Phantom and Leech. I'm on iOS, and I see the reason why none of the iOS legend league players using a Bulwark.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Oct 7, 2019 15:27:54 GMT -5
So I'm in a dilemma. I have 2.5k gold and have a basic silver pilot with 3 skills on my Ao Jun, and one fortifier with 2 max silver armour modules on my Bulwark. My question is should I get a second fortifier or a Ao Jun legend pilot? I'm torn. I really want the damage boost from the pilot but that would mean training it from scratch so I'm leaning toward a 2nd fortifier and just make do with the silver pilot. Any ideas? triple shield module bully is insane, 273,600 shield health that recharges around 20,000 per second is insane, and the physical shield having 440,000 health is obnoxiously high, especially when you take into account bully has only 228,000 health. Go for the shield module, much more fun bot than ao jun and would give you tons of worth while getting the ao jun to higher level before getting the pilot would give the pilot far more worth, plus then it is only one gold payment.
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Post by jukenukem on Oct 8, 2019 2:31:59 GMT -5
So I'm in a dilemma. I have 2.5k gold and have a basic silver pilot with 3 skills on my Ao Jun, and one fortifier with 2 max silver armour modules on my Bulwark. My question is should I get a second fortifier or a Ao Jun legend pilot? I'm torn. I really want the damage boost from the pilot but that would mean training it from scratch so I'm leaning toward a 2nd fortifier and just make do with the silver pilot. Any ideas? triple shield module bully is insane, 273,600 shield health that recharges around 20,000 per second is insane, and the physical shield having 440,000 health is obnoxiously high, especially when you take into account bully has only 228,000 health. Go for the shield module, much more fun bot than ao jun and would give you tons of worth while getting the ao jun to higher level before getting the pilot would give the pilot far more worth, plus then it is only one gold payment. I definitely noticed a huge difference after getting my first fortifier and plan on getting a 2nd and a 3rd eventually. In the meantime I need to figure out how I'm going to find the time to play for enough silver to upgrade it lol. Good point on the Ao Jun, I already got the wonderworker skill instead of getting a new legend pilot for it. I think I'll just keep adding skills to the silver pilot I have instead of getting the legend pilot, upgrade the one fortifier I have and save some more gold for the next fortifier. It's such a slow process!!
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Post by TerminatorWR on Oct 9, 2019 17:54:54 GMT -5
triple shield module bully is insane, 273,600 shield health that recharges around 20,000 per second is insane, and the physical shield having 440,000 health is obnoxiously high, especially when you take into account bully has only 228,000 health. Go for the shield module, much more fun bot than ao jun and would give you tons of worth while getting the ao jun to higher level before getting the pilot would give the pilot far more worth, plus then it is only one gold payment. I definitely noticed a huge difference after getting my first fortifier and plan on getting a 2nd and a 3rd eventually. In the meantime I need to figure out how I'm going to find the time to play for enough silver to upgrade it lol. Good point on the Ao Jun, I already got the wonderworker skill instead of getting a new legend pilot for it. I think I'll just keep adding skills to the silver pilot I have instead of getting the legend pilot, upgrade the one fortifier I have and save some more gold for the next fortifier. It's such a slow process!! Please also check what GreenBanana said in this thread regarding his Bully with 3 Fortifiers
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Post by diddlydums on Oct 9, 2019 19:13:37 GMT -5
I just put a 3rd fortifier on my level 12 Bulwark. All fortifiers are still base level but I am quite pleased with performance and can’t imagine what it’s like with the modules maxed out.
I wholeheartedly recommend fortifier!
I am low to middle champion.
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