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Post by bronzeknee on Sept 14, 2019 0:15:15 GMT -5
Yes yes! Actually I posted it on the run into thread war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/488844 If it wasn’t for my Last Stand you’d have beaten Ao Jun vs Ao Jun and you gave me a hell of a hard time specially with the mender there while the VOX guys just played with their food lol. Ya know I was just trying my hardest just to be worthy of playing along their highness lol (sarcasm) Now back to topic. I’ll picture this scenario in any short map: There’s been that annoying Ares/Ao Jun guy badly hurting any blue passing by center and hugging that wall half the match. Smart blue Leech pilot knows that’s the one to get rid of. Jumps to center focusing on guy to beat while likely 2 Reds shoot at him trying to defend center cos damage is not redirected at them And only one is being installed-killed by 4 mids, Leech with DR lasts enough to cap center, kill one more red and if not killed at least drains strongest red indirectly by friendly fire. Now how many times have you focused fire on a red that smartly runs in to cover and you switch to any other uncovered red while you empty your clip on them and many open fire back at you? Well if you’re riding a leech, in the fog of war, that guy that ran into cover will take dmg from his mates shooting at you... I get that, but eventually, the game will reach a knowledge saturation where people will see the leech animation (very obvious up close) and stop shooting him, unless he's shooting you. So that makes the Leech is effectively invulnerable while the ability is active... Ares 2.0 with absolutely no counter, no getting inside the shield, no Hellburner or Mercury blast going through the shield... and it has 4 medium weapons... I'm not sure you could be more wrong about this. |
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Post by Fluffybane on Sept 14, 2019 5:40:47 GMT -5
I get that, but eventually, the game will reach a knowledge saturation where people will see the leech animation (very obvious up close) and stop shooting him, unless he's shooting you. So that makes the Leech is effectively invulnerable while the ability is active... Ares 2.0 with absolutely no counter, no getting inside the shield, no Hellburner or Mercury blast going through the shield... and it has 4 medium weapons... I'm not sure you could be more wrong about this. People still shoot the big purple shields, so I have no trust in my teammates dealing with the leech. My biggest problem with this game is that Pixonic only seems to introduce new things that are just 「fluffernutter」ing annoying to play against. I just want to shoot things and make things go boom. Now when I hit something they either fase rush, stealth, purple shield, teleport or last stand their way out of trouble. And now they added damage reflection... |
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Post by akulon on Sept 14, 2019 5:56:56 GMT -5
Wow what a usefull forum. I am surely learn a lot just from this thread.
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Post by cookieDad on Sept 14, 2019 6:29:46 GMT -5
So do I understand this correctly? The VDO says that once the Leech has locked to you, and you activate stealth, Leech can still damage you...? So PS will not work? Stealth-mode will not work. This must be the most ridiculous bot that Pix has ever come up with. How to 「fluffernutter」up a game-101.
And with 90% DR and 4 medium weapons, it's like all the bad things from all bots combined into 1. They surely had been drinking way toooo much bad quality Vodka when they invented this monster.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 6:37:38 GMT -5
I get that, but eventually, the game will reach a knowledge saturation where people will see the leech animation (very obvious up close) and stop shooting him, unless he's shooting you. So that makes the Leech is effectively invulnerable while the ability is active... Ares 2.0 with absolutely no counter, no getting inside the shield, no Hellburner or Mercury blast going through the shield... and it has 4 medium weapons... I'm not sure you could be more wrong about this. /sarcasm on/ Not invulnerable at all!! Didn't you see the release video? Sting will be the kryptonite to this superman  /sarcasm off/ |
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Post by Fluffybane on Sept 14, 2019 6:57:25 GMT -5
So that makes the Leech is effectively invulnerable while the ability is active... Ares 2.0 with absolutely no counter, no getting inside the shield, no Hellburner or Mercury blast going through the shield... and it has 4 medium weapons... I'm not sure you could be more wrong about this. /sarcasm on/ Not invulnerable at all!! Didn't you see the release video? Sting will be the kryptonite to this superman /sarcasm off/ My triple viper Falcon wasn't a waste of resources! I just happen to be a master strategist way ahead if it's time |
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Post by cookieDad on Sept 14, 2019 7:03:40 GMT -5
or time to use my super-camper/sniper Behemoth and snipe them from far.... [j/k, that would be too lame]
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Post by The VVatcher on Sept 14, 2019 7:17:07 GMT -5
Watch this thing have traditionalists. It loses leeching but has 90% DR at all times. Hello 4 medium slot Falcon ?
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Post by Fluffybane on Sept 14, 2019 7:22:58 GMT -5
Watch this thing have traditionalists. It loses leeching but has 90% DR at all times. Hello 4 medium slot Falcon ? Just thinking about this makes me cry. |
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Post by bronzeknee on Sept 14, 2019 9:06:35 GMT -5
So that makes the Leech is effectively invulnerable while the ability is active... Ares 2.0 with absolutely no counter, no getting inside the shield, no Hellburner or Mercury blast going through the shield... and it has 4 medium weapons... I'm not sure you could be more wrong about this. People still shoot the big purple shields, so I have no trust in my teammates dealing with the leech. My biggest problem with this game is that Pixonic only seems to introduce new things that are just ?fluffernutter?ing annoying to play against. I just want to shoot things and make things go boom. Now when I hit something they either fase rush, stealth, purple shield, teleport or last stand their way out of trouble. And now they added damage reflection... My point was that if people played against the Leech the way he was recommending, the "perfect" way, it effectively makes the Leech completely invulnerable. That isn't balanced. And it isn't meant to be balanced. Pixonic wants people to buy them, five of them even. They want them to replace the Ares and Ao Jun. And then they can nerf them in a few months and sell you something else. |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 15, 2019 11:00:43 GMT -5
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Post by Garbage game on Sept 15, 2019 11:31:09 GMT -5
Midrange against damage reduction is already a proven fail, better off eating that 35% damage leech and brawling them to death during cooldown. 35% isn't a ton of damage, they'd have to soak like 300,000 damage for it to be significant.I honestly hope I will be proved wrong, I guess once more we will have to wait and see... tl;dr It's not the leech ability that's scary, its the DR. I think if you can manage to skirt the DR period it might be ok. I can handle taking a 25% durability hit through a wall, but you can't go toe-to-toe with them during that 10s. 300k is pretty easiliy achieved in a strafing run of a Ao Jun. Leech activates ability on you. Blue Ao Jun flies around the corner and unloads his payload onto the Leech. That's like 500k dmg at 35%. 175k damage hits you through a wall. Fun and interactive. You think: maybe the Ao Jun player is way too overzealous? But consider a half or less HP Leech. A juicy and high priority target. Yeah, maybe the Ao Jun will kill it, but at the cost of your life. No counterplay and you're at the mercy of your teammates (who are just fighting for themselves anyway). |
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Post by cav8r on Sept 15, 2019 12:07:34 GMT -5
On the positive side we might just be finally getting a long awaited new tool to figure out a way to kill that hydra/arthy camping blue lol
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Post by #1 worst pilot on Sept 16, 2019 9:26:47 GMT -5
Random question regarding this thing. I enjoy my blitz, how does suppression work against the leech? Does it also suppress the leechs.......leeching, or just weapons?
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Sept 16, 2019 9:43:39 GMT -5
Random question regarding this thing. I enjoy my blitz, how does suppression work against the leech? Does it also suppress the leechs.......leeching, or just weapons? Probably just the weapons. The Leech damage is redirected ally damage. This is just my guess of course, no official testing has been done. |
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Post by babypoppy on Sept 16, 2019 9:45:28 GMT -5
So that makes the Leech is effectively invulnerable while the ability is active... Ares 2.0 with absolutely no counter, no getting inside the shield, no Hellburner or Mercury blast going through the shield... and it has 4 medium weapons... I'm not sure you could be more wrong about this. People still shoot the big purple shields, so I have no trust in my teammates dealing with the leech. My biggest problem with this game is that Pixonic only seems to introduce new things that are just ?fluffernutter?ing annoying to play against. I just want to shoot things and make things go boom. Now when I hit something they either fase rush, stealth, purple shield, teleport or last stand their way out of trouble. And now they added damage reflection... Yes! Would be great if this was a game about giant metal robots and not some bizarre wizardry competition! |
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