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Post by shivaswrath on Sept 11, 2019 13:32:01 GMT -5
And very intrigued by the Tyr...however I have no components and it'll take 27 days and 48mil silver. I will probably just barely get the pilot from operations for Tyr too, so take that into consideration.  Or do I build a mender or Weyland (components above) This is my primary hangar so I'll probably swap out Fenrir or Spectre or Ao Jun for the healer as I see fit.  |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 11, 2019 14:28:06 GMT -5
Yup. Direct quote there. Yessirreebob.
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 11, 2019 14:51:24 GMT -5
Yup. Direct quote there. Yessirreebob.
If you didn't already realize it shivaswrath, please heed the following gif for understanding about what Poop is doing...  On bob's recommendation, Poop and I are both running Menders. They're excellent little murder turtles. The Weyland has been proven by many people on here (including linearblade) to be a formidable foe. I'm also extremely interested in the Tyr with the pilot and many skills to see how it might perform. It really depends on your play style and what weapons you have available to put on it. Bottom line, if you like honor points and want to get an extra 400 per match, start using a healer ASAP. |
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Post by Phycoshot on Sept 11, 2019 15:11:53 GMT -5
Yup. Direct quote there. Yessirreebob.
If you didn't already realize it shivaswrath , please heed the following gif for understanding about what Poop is doing... On bob's recommendation, Poop and I are both running Menders. They're excellent little murder turtles. The Weyland has been proven by many people on here (including linearblade ) to be a formidable foe. I'm also extremely interested in the Tyr with the pilot and many skills to see how it might perform. It really depends on your play style and what weapons you have available to put on it. Bottom line, if you like honor points and want to get an extra 400 per match, start using a healer ASAP. I'll be getting both the tyr and the pilot within the next week or two, gonna level both up and see how they do, got enough good to bring it to 4 skills as well. So I'll see if it was a good investment or if the mender is better. I might make a video on it but I'm not sure yet. |
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Post by Joopiter on Sept 11, 2019 15:19:44 GMT -5
I'm split. Huge mender fan, but the new Tyr pilot appears to be a game changer for that bot.  Stats at level mk1 level 12 Hp 206,000 Phys Shield 154,000 (with pilot 223,300) Heal/sec 2,820 (with pilot 4,415, included 20% boost and mechanic at 0.5% of HP/sec) I think that's right. |
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 11, 2019 15:34:05 GMT -5
I'm split. Huge mender fan, but the new Tyr pilot appears to be a game changer for that bot. Stats at level mk1 level 12 Hp 206,000 Phys Shield 154,000 (with pilot 223,300) Heal/sec 2,820 (with pilot 3,850, included 1.38% and mechanic at 0.5%)Agreed, it's definitely a much stronger bot with her running it. That's close to the best legendary pilot skill, IMHO. Gotta be top 3. |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 11, 2019 15:40:25 GMT -5
Yup. Direct quote there. Yessirreebob.
If you didn't already realize it shivaswrath, please heed the following gif for understanding about what Poop is doing... On bob's recommendation, Poop and I are both running Menders. They're excellent little murder turtles. The Weyland has been proven by many people on here (including linearblade) to be a formidable foe. I'm also extremely interested in the Tyr with the pilot and many skills to see how it might perform. It really depends on your play style and what weapons you have available to put on it. Bottom line, if you like honor points and want to get an extra 400 per match, start using a healer ASAP. I’d like to try the tyr as well. Down the list tho, abs I doubt it will be relevant when the leech is released |
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Post by CravenSouls on Sept 11, 2019 15:52:30 GMT -5
I recently got a Tyr. I like it. I use it for healing and mid-range support.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 17:50:10 GMT -5
If you didn't already realize it shivaswrath , please heed the following gif for understanding about what Poop is doing... On bob's recommendation, Poop and I are both running Menders. They're excellent little murder turtles. The Weyland has been proven by many people on here (including linearblade ) to be a formidable foe. I'm also extremely interested in the Tyr with the pilot and many skills to see how it might perform. It really depends on your play style and what weapons you have available to put on it. Bottom line, if you like honor points and want to get an extra 400 per match, start using a healer ASAP. I’d like to try the tyr as well. Down the list tho, abs I doubt it will be relevant when the leech is released I may be wrong but I am counting on the Leech to be a reason the healing bots will become more of a popular in game asset within a team to boost healing for bots who have had the health sucked from them. I currently have 2 L9 menders and have now started levelling up the Weyland I have (it's your fault after seeing your video  ) |
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Post by #1 worst pilot on Sept 11, 2019 17:53:01 GMT -5
Murder turtle. I don't have one....but I desire.
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Post by orionpax on Sept 11, 2019 18:01:29 GMT -5
I’m running a Tyr and a mender! I just need that new Tyr pilot and I’m set! Mender is a killer.
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Post by shivaswrath on Sept 11, 2019 19:16:40 GMT -5
I’m running a Tyr and a mender! I just need that new Tyr pilot and I’m set! Mender is a killer. Is it a killer AND a healer? I need those extra points for healing... |
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Post by aaronc on Sept 11, 2019 19:23:59 GMT -5
Didn't Adrian do a video where he thought a standard pilot was better? I've just recently got a Tyr and got it to level 7. It was nice to play a match where I was so outclassed by all the Mk2 gear all my other bots were slaughtered, but the Tyr was able to hang as center beacon with the TFalcs and maxed Ares healing them and lobbing the odd Vortex shot at the enemy. Picked up the honor pts for best healer and which kept me from coming last!  |
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Sept 11, 2019 19:26:57 GMT -5
Weyland is a solid bot who can surivive in many situations and makes whatever area you choose into a fortress. Using calamitys on him with health boosters and the pilot skill would keep him alive for a VERY long time not to mention the low need for protection since anyone who wants to kill you has to go through your team
Usually the team holes up near the weyland so they can heal so playing on the ship, dead city or a TDM game would make it so either they have to push right past the team to get beacons or force them to fight the entire team while they get constant healing.
If you don't wish to sit on your 「bum-bum」 then play mender, no words can describe the horrors of the murder turtle, besides its nickname of course. "Hey I almost have these 2 guys killed, yay!" *mender pops healing next to them* "well 「fluffernutter」 this then"
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Post by orionpax on Sept 11, 2019 19:28:30 GMT -5
I’m running a Tyr and a mender! I just need that new Tyr pilot and I’m set! Mender is a killer. Is it a killer AND a healer? I need those extra points for healing... . You can heal with mender and I do but it’s ability is better used for attacking! That’s where the mender shines! Tanking damage. If you want to heal team mates I say run the Tyr. I am starting to really like the Tyr and with the new pilot it should really start to shine. Happy hunting |
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Post by jukenukem on Sept 11, 2019 19:48:54 GMT -5
Personally I was thinking of a healer too until the Leech was announced. Currently saving all my resources for the Leech and hopefully a pilot that comes with it. But if you must chose a healer I'd go with the Tyr especially with the legendary pilot.
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Post by shivaswrath on Sept 11, 2019 19:51:47 GMT -5
Lots of choices!
(Video title violates language policy)
This dude's Weyland just saved my Bullys ?bum-bum? in the center...just takes so long to get to the center!!
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Post by snk on Sept 11, 2019 23:57:36 GMT -5
I only have mender, it has great burst healing when upgraded to high level. Don't have others upgraded, but Tyr and Wayland seems to have slower constant heal. You may also need to consider speed, survival under attacks or dps others than healing.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Sept 12, 2019 0:26:02 GMT -5
Tyr = if you got the legendary pilot, then its a good investment
Weyland = brawl with it. and don't forget to get those extra damage and extra resistance when ability is active to keep you live longer.
Mender = I don't have enough experience running them.
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Post by immortal on Sept 12, 2019 1:34:17 GMT -5
I got all 3. Tyr got a very gud physical shield. At level 12 it's quite strong, but low health healer.but it's a gud damage dealer with 2 light and 2 medium weapons.
Wayland is a high healing robot but not a gud brawler.
Mender at present my favorite. It's a fasy health healer and also a gud damager.
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 12, 2019 6:40:41 GMT -5
I haven't played the Tyr much but the Mender is fantastic. It's good with almost any weapon config too. I had to take my Corona/Shredders off and move them to other bots that need them, but the Mender still rocks with good old fashioned Taran/Magnum.
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Post by bloodynipples on Sept 12, 2019 6:46:56 GMT -5
I play the Tyr, I look at it as more if a personal healer, not really for healing others. Your very vulnerable when your healing, don't do it in the open. Running a fortifier helps a ton.
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Post by The VVatcher on Sept 12, 2019 7:15:09 GMT -5
Honestly I think Tyr surpassed the turtle when the pilot came out.
Mender fans may not like me saying that
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 7:43:06 GMT -5
From facing these healing bots, Tyr is the one that is hardest to kill.
Menders usually are not easy kills, but the Tyr has that shield, really annoying. I’d like one of them, myself.
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Post by shivaswrath on Sept 12, 2019 8:15:29 GMT -5
mender is killing it in the polls by A LOT, if I build one I save about 4 mil in silver...that pilot for Tyr is what makes it tempting/sexy.
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 12, 2019 8:28:08 GMT -5
Honestly I think Tyr surpassed the turtle when the pilot came out. Mender fans may not like me saying that The Tyr may very well be the more versatile support bot between the 2, but in a close knife fight while the ability is activated, the Mender is better by far. 50% damage reduction for 8 seconds, 4 of which you're healing yourself and a speed boost is no joke. There are few bots that can withstand as much damage and come out alive over that time span, not to mention winning in a situation like that. I've taken full salvos from Orkan Spectres and come out victorious. I had a full strength Ao Jun charge me the other day and I came out of that with 2/3 of my health left. Yes, both of those situations I was aware of the danger before the enemy engaged and I prepared for it, but without a purple shield, many can't. And with the essential pilot skills of True Ace and Deft Survivor, you can handle almost anything. Mine isn't even full strength either. It's level 11 mk1, with a level 11 Halo/Corona and a level 12 Magnum. I'm building the other Halo now. Maybe a Tyr with the Halo/Corona setup is as good, but it can't take rockets. I'm not saying the Mender is better in every situation, but I do think it's a better knife fighter, probably the best of the 3. One drawback is it can't take down a T-Falc 1v1. It just doesn't have the firepower to do it over that span. Probably it's biggest weakness. |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 12, 2019 8:48:27 GMT -5
I’d like to try the tyr as well. Down the list tho, abs I doubt it will be relevant when the leech is released I may be wrong but I am counting on the Leech to be a reason the healing bots will become more of a popular in game asset within a team to boost healing for bots who have had the health sucked from them. I currently have 2 L9 menders and have now started levelling up the Weyland I have (it's your fault after seeing your video ) As soon as your allies ares lays into a leech which is locked into you, you will change your mind. 65% of an ares milk shower is still fatal to almost everything. And trust me, since he still doing damage , and it’s not targeting him, he will definitely do it. This will be far worse than the shocktrain (stand around corner and your moron blue random gets pegged by 3 spectres killing half your team) because he walks out of cover like a dimwit |
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Post by shivaswrath on Sept 12, 2019 9:30:00 GMT -5
Honestly I think Tyr surpassed the turtle when the pilot came out. Mender fans may not like me saying that The Tyr may very well be the more versatile support bot between the 2, but in a close knife fight while the ability is activated, the Mender is better by far. 50% damage reduction for 8 seconds, 4 of which you're healing yourself and a speed boost is no joke. There are few bots that can withstand as much damage and come out alive over that time span, not to mention winning in a situation like that. I've taken full salvos from Orkan Spectres and come out victorious. I had a full strength Ao Jun charge me the other day and I came out of that with 2/3 of my health left. Yes, both of those situations I was aware of the danger before the enemy engaged and I prepared for it, but without a purple shield, many can't. And with the essential pilot skills of True Ace and Deft Survivor, you can handle almost anything. Mine isn't even full strength either. It's level 11 mk1, with a level 11 Halo/Corona and a level 12 Magnum. I'm building the other Halo now. Maybe a Tyr with the Halo/Corona setup is as good, but it can't take rockets. I'm not saying the Mender is better in every situation, but I do think it's a better knife fighter, probably the best of the 3. One drawback is it can't take down a T-Falc 1v1. It just doesn't have the firepower to do it over that span. Probably it's biggest weakness. I think the Fenrir has 50% damage reduction too, but I feel like it melts under a Ao Jun or Ares jizz release. Mender can handle this? A Spectre Orkan jizz fest is like 150k health in one spout...I need a quick healer/knife fighter, i get the feeling mender is being characterized more like this than the Tyr. Unless people just haven't used the Tyr enough...(I have seen them on the field and they aren't knifer worthy). |
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 12, 2019 9:53:13 GMT -5
The Tyr may very well be the more versatile support bot between the 2, but in a close knife fight while the ability is activated, the Mender is better by far. 50% damage reduction for 8 seconds, 4 of which you're healing yourself and a speed boost is no joke. There are few bots that can withstand as much damage and come out alive over that time span, not to mention winning in a situation like that. I've taken full salvos from Orkan Spectres and come out victorious. I had a full strength Ao Jun charge me the other day and I came out of that with 2/3 of my health left. Yes, both of those situations I was aware of the danger before the enemy engaged and I prepared for it, but without a purple shield, many can't. And with the essential pilot skills of True Ace and Deft Survivor, you can handle almost anything. Mine isn't even full strength either. It's level 11 mk1, with a level 11 Halo/Corona and a level 12 Magnum. I'm building the other Halo now. Maybe a Tyr with the Halo/Corona setup is as good, but it can't take rockets. I'm not saying the Mender is better in every situation, but I do think it's a better knife fighter, probably the best of the 3. One drawback is it can't take down a T-Falc 1v1. It just doesn't have the firepower to do it over that span. Probably it's biggest weakness. I think the Fenrir has 50% damage reduction too, but I feel like it melts under a Ao Jun or Ares jizz release. Mender can handle this? A Spectre Orkan jizz fest is like 150k health in one spout...I need a quick healer/knife fighter, i get the feeling mender is being characterized more like this than the Tyr. Unless people just haven't used the Tyr enough...(I have seen them on the field and they aren't knifer worthy). No, you don't want to get stuck out in the rain when the Ares is spewing its fun juice, but during that 4 seconds of healing you have, combined with the 50% reduced damage, you can take it better than most. I don't take on an Ares head on and if someone else has pumped lots of extra fun into the Retribution, you're toast. Like everything else, you have to pick when the battle gets fought. When I fought the Ao Jun, it was on Moon and I was on the ramp near spawn that you have to go over to get to the enemy's side beacon or get to the top of center. The Mender weapons are placed perfectly for shooting over stuff from cover and there are lots of these places. Still, the other guy was hiding on the other side after just spawning near that beacon. He took off and came at me, I back peddled to buy some time and when he was fully engaged, I turned on the ability and Quantum Radar to fire back. He didn't like that, but kept firing during his full flight, then landed on the other side of the ramp. This was his mistake. I my ability was gone, but I had the advantage of height and weapon placement and I got right above him and finished him off without him being able to hit me. You have to set the battles up where it's in your favor, but I'd have been hard pressed to survive that in many other bots, and then finish him off. I'm guessing there are a handful that would have been able to do that, but non of them are healers...well maybe the Weyland could have done it as it's a bit tankier. A Tyr would not have survived that. It's physical shield is too small to protect it from above and flames bypass anyway. It's healing doesn't come in bursts like the Mender. It can't handle overwhelming force for very long. At least with a Mender, you can handle most situations for a short burst. |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 12, 2019 10:32:51 GMT -5
I think the Fenrir has 50% damage reduction too, but I feel like it melts under a Ao Jun or Ares jizz release. Mender can handle this? A Spectre Orkan jizz fest is like 150k health in one spout...I need a quick healer/knife fighter, i get the feeling mender is being characterized more like this than the Tyr. Unless people just haven't used the Tyr enough...(I have seen them on the field and they aren't knifer worthy). No, you don't want to get stuck out in the rain when the Ares is spewing its fun juice, but during that 4 seconds of healing you have, combined with the 50% reduced damage, you can take it better than most. I don't take on an Ares head on and if someone else has pumped lots of extra fun into the Retribution, you're toast. Like everything else, you have to pick when the battle gets fought. When I fought the Ao Jun, it was on Moon and I was on the ramp near spawn that you have to go over to get to the enemy's side beacon or get to the top of center. The Mender weapons are placed perfectly for shooting over stuff from cover and there are lots of these places. Still, the other guy was hiding on the other side after just spawning near that beacon. He took off and came at me, I back peddled to buy some time and when he was fully engaged, I turned on the ability and Quantum Radar to fire back. He didn't like that, but kept firing during his full flight, then landed on the other side of the ramp. This was his mistake. I my ability was gone, but I had the advantage of height and weapon placement and I got right above him and finished him off without him being able to hit me. You have to set the battles up where it's in your favor, but I'd have been hard pressed to survive that in many other bots, and then finish him off. I'm guessing there are a handful that would have been able to do that, but non of them are healers...well maybe the Weyland could have done it as it's a bit tankier. A Tyr would not have survived that. It's physical shield is too small to protect it from above and flames bypass anyway. It's healing doesn't come in bursts like the Mender. It can't handle overwhelming force for very long. At least with a Mender, you can handle most situations for a short burst. A maxed weyland cannot easily survive a maxed charged up ares. Unless he has advanced healing. A raijin is a different story however. Weylands are a good bot against non ares / Ao Jun opponents, however if you are unwilling to sniff power cells, it’s not capable in today’s meta. |
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