|
Post by cmdrperalta on Sept 7, 2019 7:59:56 GMT -5
There are some studies I have read recently that link video game addiction to a lot of negative health outcomes including depression, social anxiety and an escalating pattern of video games crowding out other life concerns. I play a lot. I know others on the forum often speak openly of their war robots or gaming addiction. I am curious to hear people’s thoughts. Is this something that concerns you, personally as a player? inews.co.uk/news/technology/video-game-addiction-contributes-to-depression-and-anxiety/
|
|
|
Post by mechtout on Sept 7, 2019 8:24:37 GMT -5
When i first started a couple of years ago i would of been concerned but thanks to Pixonic i play way less now
|
|
|
Post by Sgt. Beacon on Sept 7, 2019 8:33:41 GMT -5
And i'm sure like every other study. They weren't told what the party that paid for the study was hoping to find.
|
|
|
Post by bronzeknee on Sept 7, 2019 8:45:53 GMT -5
And i'm sure like every other study. They weren't told what the party that paid for the study was hoping to find. It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive.
|
|
|
Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Sept 7, 2019 8:52:12 GMT -5
There was a brief period on my War Robots gaming career a year or two ago where I was afraid to play a game in case my team lost and I lost league points. Looking back, I feel embarrassed about it. League points mean jack 「dookie」. I'd definitely agree that War Robots does at times take too much of my time and gets in the way of other things in life, but so far that hasn't been a huge problem. It hasn't caused me any depression or social anxiety, but I'd say it does make me irritable whenever I lose a game due to idiot teammates. I feel like punching a wall or screaming at someone for losing (thankfully, I'm working towards that and dealing with it much better). But there has been many positive effects of playing War Robots. I've learnt to be more patient, planning for the long term, increased creativity and determination. I also realised that I have a strong competitive spirit through playing this game. Once realising I had that, I started applying it in my real life and it has led to some wonderful opportunities and outcomes So, I've learnt some lessons in War Robots which I've applied in real life, and those things have had a positive impact.
|
|
|
Post by Sgt. Beacon on Sept 7, 2019 9:42:53 GMT -5
And i'm sure like every other study. They weren't told what the party that paid for the study was hoping to find. It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive. Yes, what ever. People(scientist) that are run by people that want/need money. Don't know if you were taught statistics in college, but I was. My professor always stated unless you were willing to do the math be skeptical. I guess you're willing to swallow that video games are responsible for mass killings? Sorry, that fact that the scientists are pressured to make money, and are told what the funders are hoping to find-yea right-no chance for bias? Try not thinking that a PHD behind someones name means that they know it all or are absolutely trustworthy. Oh, love how you went to climate change to boost yourself and your point-you really want to convince me of your point of view? Or just shut me up? Yea, for you.
|
|
|
Post by reconnecting on Sept 7, 2019 9:43:55 GMT -5
I think I spend too much time on the internet with various devices. War Robots is one part of that. I was way too0 much into it at one time, but have learned to limit my time to some degree. No more 5 or 6 hour sessions. Half an hour or so with breakfast, same in the afternoon. Maybe a bit very late at night if I am not too tired. I am retired btw so I have a lot of time. On weekends I play my PC accounts for a little while. Hmmmm. Okay...guess I'm still addicted and will have to think about this.
|
|
|
Post by CarlosDanger on Sept 7, 2019 9:51:01 GMT -5
Yes.
|
|
|
Post by rags on Sept 7, 2019 10:14:09 GMT -5
And i'm sure like every other study. They weren't told what the party that paid for the study was hoping to find. It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive. Blindly following science is just as bad. I’m in grad school and we had an entire course dedicated to learning how to interpret research papers becuz half of them are wonky BS that are done wrong.
|
|
|
Post by linearblade on Sept 7, 2019 10:17:10 GMT -5
There are some studies I have read recently that link video game addiction to a lot of negative health outcomes including depression, social anxiety and an escalating pattern of video games crowding out other life concerns. I play a lot. I know others on the forum often speak openly of their war robots or gaming addiction. I am curious to hear people’s thoughts. Is this something that concerns you, personally as a player? inews.co.uk/news/technology/video-game-addiction-contributes-to-depression-and-anxiety/I’ve had numerous “addictions” over the year. The easiest way is to “complete” the game. If I I was playing war robots and didn’t have the time, and I was addicted, I would drop the 1k required to max my hangar mostly and let the addiction run it’s course over the next couple of weeks. I found that once I completed the modules and pilots, my desire to play dropped off real fast. I should have just dropped 500-1k a year ago and stopped. It’s like finishing a beer , or finishing any other project. If your completionist, just complete the damn thing.
|
|
|
Post by nix on Sept 7, 2019 10:39:37 GMT -5
And i'm sure like every other study. They weren't told what the party that paid for the study was hoping to find. It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive. I know people who do/did science for a living at a reputable university. Denying that finances play a huge part in what experiments are done and that scientists are indirectly encouraged to produce preset results is just ignorance. Everybody tries their best but at the end of the day most (I think) science departments depend on variois linked industries for budget.
|
|
|
Post by orionpax on Sept 7, 2019 10:39:57 GMT -5
I used to be addicted to this game for sure! But since I got diagnosed with cancer And all that goes with it my playing time is almost down to none now.
Since starting radiation therapy I might play a few hours a week, where as I used to play 4 hours a day! My play time has dwindled because I don’t feel good most days. I really feel bad that I can’t be there for my clan like they need me to.
Enjoy what life gives you as none of it is a guarantee . Life is short so enjoy as much as you can. I’m sure once I beat this I will start playing more again!
|
|
|
Post by BB on Sept 7, 2019 10:47:21 GMT -5
Even though I KNOW Pix is as crooked and dishonest as they come, I still throw them a 20 every week because I CHOOSE to PLAY and excel at their game for a few hours every day because....its challenging and FUN! .......Addicted?....no
Some very common pastimes that I spend very little if ANY of my time doing:
Watching TV Chasing more money Blabbing on the phone Abusing prescription drugs Raising my kids (I don’t have any) ? Hanging out in a bar drinking overpriced sugar water Wasting ridiculous amounts of time on social media blowing out my ego and encouraging others to do the same
??There are literally MILLIONS of people worldwide who are addicted to one or more of the above ??
Just my thoughts...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Karma:
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 10:49:21 GMT -5
I used to be addicted to this game for sure! But since I got diagnosed with cancer And all that goes with it my playing time is almost down to none now. Since starting radiation therapy I might play a few hours a week, where as I used to play 4 hours a day! My play time has dwindled because I don’t feel good most days. I really feel bad that I can’t be there for my clan like they need me to. Enjoy what life gives you as none of it is a guarantee . Life is short so enjoy as much as you can. I’m sure once I beat this I will start playing more again! Stay strong bro!!!!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Karma:
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 10:51:20 GMT -5
Even though I KNOW Pix is as crooked and dishonest as they come, I still throw them a 20 every week because I CHOOSE to PLAY and excel at their game for a few hours every day because....ITS FUN! .......Addicted?....no Some very common pastimes that I spend very little if ANY of my time doing: Watching TV Blabbing on the phone Abusing prescription drugs Raising my kids (I donât have any) ? Hanging out in a bar drinking overpriced sugar water Wasting ridiculous amounts of time on social media blowing out my ego and encouraging others to do the same ??There are literally MILLIONS of people worldwide who are addicted to one or more of the above ?? Just my thoughts... Whatâs the river youâre describing? Oh, thatâs right, De Nile! Bro weâre so freakin addicted to this 「dookie」 itâs not even funny...
|
|
|
Post by bronzeknee on Sept 7, 2019 11:01:32 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive. Blindly following science is just as bad. I’m in grad school and we had an entire course dedicated to learning how to interpret research papers becuz half of them are wonky BS that are done wrong. You can't blindly follow anything and be a scientist. Mutually exclusive principles. That shows you don't understand science. The article is nothing special. Addiction is bad, gaming addiction is bad too. That is literally all it says. I know people who do/did science for a living at a reputable university. Denying that finances play a huge part in what experiments are done and that scientists are indirectly encouraged to produce preset results is just ignorance. Everybody tries their best but at the end of the day most (I think) science departments depend on variois linked industries for budget. Well, I did publish scientific articles for Clark University. The fact of the matter is what we choose to study is directly influenced by budgets and is subjective. But when we study something, the science itself is not subjective, it is objective or it isn't science (because it has to be repeatable to be science). That was in fact my thesis in college, as I asserted that science was objective in order to refute the claims of feminists who wanted to discredit certain sciences because they were male dominated. The fact certain things were studied because white men choose to study, doesn't mean the results weren't true. And that is now an accepted stance. But it always felt it should have been obvious. My house isn't collapsing right now because the funding for the architectural science it uses wasn't biased. It isn't collapsing because the science was objective regardless of funding. Go ahead and publish bad science that encourages results that aren't true. It simply won't be reproducible by the critics and will get torn apart by the peer review process. It won't stand like my science did. You had to say (I think), because you don't know. You have no idea what you're talking about.
|
|
|
Post by I pooped today on Sept 7, 2019 11:11:40 GMT -5
Stress is a major result of this game in particular. I was having issues with the byproduct of stress. Stopped playing for 3 months and poof, no more stress.
|
|
|
Post by anjian on Sept 7, 2019 11:16:39 GMT -5
There are some studies I have read recently that link video game addiction to a lot of negative health outcomes including depression, social anxiety and an escalating pattern of video games crowding out other life concerns. I play a lot. I know others on the forum often speak openly of their war robots or gaming addiction. I am curious to hear people’s thoughts. Is this something that concerns you, personally as a player? inews.co.uk/news/technology/video-game-addiction-contributes-to-depression-and-anxiety/I stopped playing War Robots and I immediately felt better. Then a lot. Playing War Robots was leaving me angry. Its hard to justify spending a game that has no vision on trying to improve the player experience but instead, only looks to rip of you of more money with short term drugs and band aids. You see, its not about playing a game, its about playing the right game and the wrong game. I still have my gaming addiction, but I am playing other games. Not just one, or two. But a few different ones in fact. Like for example, Pokemon Go since that game started. I play a lot less of PoGo now but I still need the exercise it brings. But do you know there are elderly who actively play this game so it can stave off their dementia? That they became less lonely and suddenly more active, and less depressive about life? Every new game I play I discover new things. I discover a lot of things, hell of a lot of things that I won't discover if I play a single game and take a myopic view of gaming trapped inside a tiny enclosure. You need to play games. It exercises your mind, your memory, your eyes, your nerves. Video games literally hardwire your brain and nervous system for performance. Not just strategy games but shooting games. There has been studies to that effect that video gamers do outperform certain mental tasks better than nongamers. I have never seen a good gamer depressed, or a gamer playing a good game. Unless he is playing a game that sucks, or is a bad game, one that is frustrating him or is ripping him off.
|
|
|
Post by cmdrperalta on Sept 7, 2019 11:17:28 GMT -5
There are some studies I have read recently that link video game addiction to a lot of negative health outcomes including depression, social anxiety and an escalating pattern of video games crowding out other life concerns. I play a lot. I know others on the forum often speak openly of their war robots or gaming addiction. I am curious to hear people’s thoughts. Is this something that concerns you, personally as a player? inews.co.uk/news/technology/video-game-addiction-contributes-to-depression-and-anxiety/I’ve had numerous “addictions” over the year. The easiest way is to “complete” the game. If I I was playing war robots and didn’t have the time, and I was addicted, I would drop the 1k required to max my hangar mostly and let the addiction run it’s course over the next couple of weeks. I found that once I completed the modules and pilots, my desire to play dropped off real fast. I should have just dropped 500-1k a year ago and stopped. It’s like finishing a beer , or finishing any other project. If your completionist, just complete the damn thing. Thanks for sharing that perspective. I hadn’t really considered it, but your analysis seems to be that the lack of ‘completion’ is one of the things that makes war robots more addictive than other games (assuming you also believe that to be true — which I certainly do). I think it’s interesting and a good strategy to use completion and goal-setting to manage your interest level. I do that as well, unfortunately, right now my goal appears to be a death wing Au jun. ?genius move by pixo.
|
|
|
Post by rags on Sept 7, 2019 11:22:56 GMT -5
Even though I KNOW Pix is as crooked and dishonest as they come, I still throw them a 20 every week because I CHOOSE to PLAY and excel at their game for a few hours every day because....ITS FUN! .......Addicted?....no Some very common pastimes that I spend very little if ANY of my time doing: Watching TV Blabbing on the phone Abusing prescription drugs Raising my kids (I donâ??t have any) ð Hanging out in a bar drinking overpriced sugar water Wasting ridiculous amounts of time on social media blowing out my ego and encouraging others to do the same â?Âï¸ÂThere are literally MILLIONS of people worldwide who are addicted to one or more of the above â?Â︠Just my thoughts... Whatâ??s the river youâ??re describing? Oh, thatâ??s right, De Nile! Bro weâ??re so freakin addicted to this ?dookie? itâ??s not even funny... robot 「popcorn」 ruined my life !
|
|
|
Post by Terminator-800 on Sept 7, 2019 11:24:07 GMT -5
There are some studies I have read recently that link video game addiction to a lot of negative health outcomes including depression, social anxiety and an escalating pattern of video games crowding out other life concerns. I play a lot. I know others on the forum often speak openly of their war robots or gaming addiction. I am curious to hear people’s thoughts. Is this something that concerns you, personally as a player? inews.co.uk/news/technology/video-game-addiction-contributes-to-depression-and-anxiety/Video game addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ Alcohol addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ Smoking addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ P0rn addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ Drug addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ Power addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ Food addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ Shopping addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ Social media addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ Scientists who started this research addiction ‘contributes to depression and anxiety’ It’s not video games fault, everyone lives in a life with addiction on something. The real reason of depression and anxiety is frustration about reality vs expectation and never work hard for it, use the addiction as an escape and still dreaming about Mr Perfect. Accept yourself and set realistic goals to work on, all these bullcrap will be gone.
|
|
|
Post by Sgt. Beacon on Sept 7, 2019 12:13:03 GMT -5
Go ahead and publish bad science that encourages results that aren't true. It simply won't be reproducible by the critics and will get torn apart by the peer review process. It won't stand like my science did. You had to say (I think), because you don't know. You have no idea what you're talking about. So, now it's your science due to you quoting Clark U. What i know. Had a best friend that got his PHD, and then got the job he was sure was "the job." Doing research. Lab coats and white mice-the whole cliche. After a year and half. He started having problems, when he finally talked to me and his wife about it. He was being threaten with termination due to not "finding" the results they wanted. You can look down on anyone not posting link to something. What ever. After, going to the "climate change" to boost yourself. Not by facts, but in my opinion, by pulling others to join the usual public opinion dogma. Sorry, in my eyes it makes you not worth the effort.
|
|
|
Post by nix on Sept 7, 2019 13:22:17 GMT -5
I know people who do/did science for a living at a reputable university. Denying that finances play a huge part in what experiments are done and that scientists are indirectly encouraged to produce preset results is just ignorance. Everybody tries their best but at the end of the day most (I think) science departments depend on variois linked industries for budget. Well, I did publish scientific articles for Clark University. The fact of the matter is what we choose to study is directly influenced by budgets and is subjective. But when we study something, the science itself is not subjective, it is objective or it isn't science (because it has to be repeatable to be science). That was in fact my thesis in college, as I asserted that science was objective in order to refute the claims of feminists who wanted to discredit certain sciences because they were male dominated. The fact certain things were studied because white men choose to study, doesn't mean the results weren't true. And that is now an accepted stance. But it always felt it should have been obvious. My house isn't collapsing right now because the funding for the architectural science it uses wasn't biased. It isn't collapsing because the science was objective regardless of funding. Go ahead and publish bad science that encourages results that aren't true. It simply won't be reproducible by the critics and will get torn apart by the peer review process. It won't stand like my science did. You had to say (I think), because you don't know. You have no idea what you're talking about. There we go, now I see the Bronzeknee in you again. You taking my “(I think)” as that, says a lot more about your level of reading comprehension than my level of knowledge. Going ad hominem against anyone who disagree with you prevents any meaningful dialogue, so I’m done with you.
|
|
|
Post by Rollo Tomasi on Sept 7, 2019 13:52:39 GMT -5
And i'm sure like every other study. They weren't told what the party that paid for the study was hoping to find. It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive. There is a world of difference between “Science” and a “Funded Study” to the point of being oxymoronic.
|
|
|
Post by Rollo Tomasi on Sept 7, 2019 13:57:26 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by reckless1 on Sept 7, 2019 14:00:18 GMT -5
And i'm sure like every other study. They weren't told what the party that paid for the study was hoping to find. It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive. I've worked in research for 23 years and couldn't disagree more. Studies can be worded and manipulated to get any outcome you want. From global warming to Hillary is gonna win, it's all about the motivation of the person conducting the study.
|
|
|
Post by cmdrperalta on Sept 7, 2019 14:00:45 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive. There is a world of difference between “Science” and a “Funded Study” to the point of being oxymoronic. That’s hardly an indictment of this particular study. I agree with bronzeknee about the knee jerk anti intellectualism that has taken root, at least in this country.
|
|
|
Post by mystic spastic on Sept 7, 2019 14:01:24 GMT -5
I used to be addicted to this game for sure! But since I got diagnosed with cancer And all that goes with it my playing time is almost down to none now. Since starting radiation therapy I might play a few hours a week, where as I used to play 4 hours a day! My play time has dwindled because I don’t feel good most days. I really feel bad that I can’t be there for my clan like they need me to. Enjoy what life gives you as none of it is a guarantee . Life is short so enjoy as much as you can. I’m sure once I beat this I will start playing more again! Stay strong bro!!!! Yep! Kick that sucker’s butt!
|
|
|
Post by orionpax on Sept 7, 2019 16:40:20 GMT -5
I used to be addicted to this game for sure! But since I got diagnosed with cancer And all that goes with it my playing time is almost down to none now. Since starting radiation therapy I might play a few hours a week, where as I used to play 4 hours a day! My play time has dwindled because I don’t feel good most days. I really feel bad that I can’t be there for my clan like they need me to. Enjoy what life gives you as none of it is a guarantee . Life is short so enjoy as much as you can. I’m sure once I beat this I will start playing more again! Stay strong bro!!!! . Hey Earl I just wanted to let you know I started the CBD stuff like 3 weeks ago. Feeling better! Thanks again! 3 weeks to go and I’m done.
|
|
|
Post by cmdrperalta on Sept 7, 2019 18:41:40 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who funds a study. It doesn't matter at all. Because it isn't how science works. This is unfortunately a fallacy people use to demonize science and call it into question, and is almost exclusively used by people who aren't educated. Science is repeatable. Kids today in quality schools learn the scientific method and how apply it. And they produce papers which they list how they did the experiment and what tools they used. So you yourself, if you question it, can repeat the study. And people do that. Scientists repeat the studies they question until they get results they can be explained all the time. The science that article is based on, is peer reviewed, and explains how they did they study. Which means people who are skeptical have gone over it and possibly repeated the science. It's real science. So if you want to question science, don't question who funds it, repeat the study and question the results. Become part of the peer reviewed process. Anyone can read this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359105317740414?journalCode=hpqa . Anyone can repeat it. But that's hard work, and involves learning new things and challenges you're existing ideas. And it's easier to be ignorant and pretend that who funds it matters so you don't have to change your views. There are people and groups that fund fake science, such as people who deny climate change. And they get called out and ripped apart by scientists. And the people who believe the fakers, use the same argument you use. I would be shocked if you didn't deny climate that humans are responsible for global warming. This anti-intellectualism has to stop. The whole idea that your ignorance is as good as someone else's knowledge because you both have a single vote is destructive. I've worked in research for 23 years and couldn't disagree more. Studies can be worded and manipulated to get any outcome you want. From global warming to Hillary is gonna win, it's all about the motivation of the person conducting the study. Yes, that’s true, but I am sure you would agree that peer reviewed research is reviewed by expert proponents and opponents on a topic. The standard is just not the same thing as rigged research intended to produce an outcome. Also, lately I have noticed there is a strong tendency among humans to reject information that contradicts their personal bias, especially if there is also a self-interested reason to do so. Anyhow, just because a person plays video ga,es a lot does not mean they have an addiction. There are a lot of other factors before you can say there is any problem with it. I would also say, as a gamer, I think there is a stigma associated with gaming for a few hours that people would not have for watching television or doing a crossword or any other diversion.
|
|