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Post by AcuityAxiom on Aug 16, 2019 21:38:46 GMT -5
In one of my games on Rome, a Pursuer ran at me in PS inside the Colosseum while I was so close to capturing it, and immediately after it wore off, activated stealth and proceeded to nail me to the ground and Nanking me. Literally in the same match, a Spectre, made a ballsy jump in between an Rhino and a Lancelot, after taking the damage, they got ready to fire and the little sh*t trotted away in PS and into the Colosseum to hide in between Bulwark's buttcheeks. It all just left me like: Should this be allowed? On Spectre maybe, since on some maps, there aren't as much cover but the Pursuer story is what really had me miffed. I'll give him props, it's a smart combination but it just doesn't feel right. Personally i'd put a 3 second lock on bot abilities after PS wears off but that's just me, anyone else have any PS stories?
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Post by atreyu888 on Aug 16, 2019 22:16:55 GMT -5
I literally did that on rome in my pursuer today. I was running away from an ares in phase shift, and ran into colliesium against a hover and a raven just as my stealth was coming back. I popped stealth and took em both out lol.
Beacon was literally 75% capped. I know they were salty as he'll lmao.
But in all honesty, its not ridiculously OP. You can do some nasty stuff with it, but usually 5 seconds is not enough time to get away if your in the middle of a firefight and stealth runs out. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by mechtout on Aug 16, 2019 22:54:27 GMT -5
loki's are using it when you activate your Quantum Radar on them. not just stealth bots tho, the ares are using it after their bubbles wear off. everyone is combo-ing it
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Post by Nitro on Aug 16, 2019 23:58:44 GMT -5
loki's are using it when you activate your Quantum Radar on them. not just stealth bots tho, the ares are using it after their bubbles wear off. everyone is combo-ing it Loki using it on players that use Quantum Radar is the only acceptable time to use it IMO (though I'm a tad biased as a Loki pilot who's been insta-killed too many times by Quantum Radar) Phase shift on them as a spit in the face. I like it. I have 22k green crack to waste anyways.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Aug 17, 2019 0:55:43 GMT -5
Excellent thread. Thanks for all the great tips on tactical use of PS.
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Post by Grrrega on Aug 17, 2019 1:20:45 GMT -5
Does anyone know how phase shift affects Mercury's helldive or Hellburner explosion?
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Post by cheap on Aug 17, 2019 1:55:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know how phase shift affects Mercury's helldive or Hellburner explosion? on my Merc i used after i did dmg and Phased about a second after Stealth wore off and trotted the hell out. it works well i would say. i have no HB so i can't comment and have not run across a HB using Phase, though i have Encountered more HB's out then usual.
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Post by cookieDad on Aug 17, 2019 4:57:18 GMT -5
I have used PS on my Ao Jun, just after landing and it just missed my cover or overlooked a red. Worked pretty well. Cool feature that definitely makes an impact on the game.
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Post by rasnov on Aug 17, 2019 6:15:01 GMT -5
1 Hellburner killed our entire team, with ECU, LS6 and PS. He had 3 of them.
1 second of PS while you can act but the red cant react ...
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Post by railbait on Aug 17, 2019 7:06:03 GMT -5
I don't think you can do any damage during phase shift. I know my Weyland can't heal during PS.
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Post by xv104 on Aug 17, 2019 7:58:06 GMT -5
Also, you can't cap a beacon while in PS i believe. I only tried once mind.
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Post by Grumpy Tanker #Official on Aug 17, 2019 9:23:57 GMT -5
Is that the blue transparent shimmer effect? This game is so 「fluffernutter」ed right now. Magical War Robots anyone. 「fluffernutter」ing 「go solo」ers.
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Post by elttaes on Aug 17, 2019 9:31:19 GMT -5
Yeah, just ran into an Ares running it after his purple shield went down. Then the Ao Jun next to him took me down. Man, 「fluffernutter」 this 「fluffernutter」ing bull「dookie」!
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Post by mechtout on Aug 17, 2019 9:35:45 GMT -5
TBH depending on the situation, you can safely wait and follow a red until his PS wears out, then activate your attack
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Post by Grrrega on Aug 17, 2019 9:37:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know how phase shift affects Mercury's helldive or Hellburner explosion? on my Merc i used after i did dmg and Phased about a second after Stealth wore off and trotted the hell out. it works well i would say. i have no HB so i can't comment and have not run across a HB using Phase, though i have Encountered more HB's out then usual. Sory I was not clear enough. If a red is phase shifted and you helldive him while he is still in PS, does he get damaged?
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Post by reconnecting on Aug 17, 2019 11:35:22 GMT -5
on my Merc i used after i did dmg and Phased about a second after Stealth wore off and trotted the hell out. it works well i would say. i have no HB so i can't comment and have not run across a HB using Phase, though i have Encountered more HB's out then usual. Sory I was not clear enough. If a red is phase shifted and you helldive him while he is still in PS, does he get damaged? I have not tried this but as I understand it you cannot take damage while in phase shift, or do damage. So no, a phase shifted red should not take damage from a helldive.
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Post by cheap on Aug 17, 2019 14:14:11 GMT -5
on my Merc i used after i did dmg and Phased about a second after Stealth wore off and trotted the hell out. it works well i would say. i have no HB so i can't comment and have not run across a HB using Phase, though i have Encountered more HB's out then usual. Sory I was not clear enough. If a red is phase shifted and you helldive him while he is still in PS, does he get damaged? no you cant do dmg, during a Helldive run i Lagged so i hit Phase so i can at least take no dmg but when the lagged stopped i was still Hung in the Air and came down Phased an Caused Zero Dmg when i landed.
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Post by RightOn on Aug 17, 2019 16:30:12 GMT -5
Does anyone know how phase shift affects Mercury's helldive or Hellburner explosion? phase shift avoided my hellburner
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Post by godzillasaurus on Aug 17, 2019 17:20:54 GMT -5
I see it as clever, on the most basic level.
But the guy who used Hover to get to the other ship in carrier? Now that's ingenious.
Either way, I've seen Phase Shift used literally twice out of all the matches I've played since 5.3, and both times were just to run away and avoid damage.
Also, the instant Quantum Radar counters most of these situations.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Aug 17, 2019 17:27:05 GMT -5
PS is less frustrating than Last Stand...PS can be used to escape or wait out an ability cooldown or weapon reload, but at least the Shifted Bot isn't doing damage while invincible.
That said, PS just helped my Inky take out 2 damaged AJs (together) to defend our corner beacon on Dreadnought, so it can be devastating with good timing.
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Post by babypoppy on Aug 17, 2019 17:48:48 GMT -5
1 Hellburner killed our entire team, with ECU, LS6 and PS. He had 3 of them. 1 second of PS while you can act but the red cant react ... I went against a clan of these. They had fun setups. Also the odd maxed teleporting bot. More annoying than op.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Aug 17, 2019 18:28:15 GMT -5
For the casual player that uses the free crack and no more, all good. But for the heavy crack heads, this is $0.114/each PS or DM, half that for Quantum Radar, LD, etc. I’ve had teams drop $0.57++ just on me, with multiple DM, Quantum Radar and LD, all in just 1 game. Phil is doing a little happy dance every time, because...
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Post by raidenii on Aug 17, 2019 18:54:11 GMT -5
This is better than Last Stand.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 17, 2019 21:04:46 GMT -5
I'm almost afraid to admit this, but I've performed tactics similar to those described in the OP. Usually in reverse though, like I'll use the PS after my stealth is worn off and my healthy bot is at serious risk. Once, I almost laughed evilly at an Ao Jun that came after my Spectre. My Descend wasn't enough to get me away, but it bought me time. After my stealth wore off, the Ao Jun came at me like a GWS (Great White Shark). I hit the PS and in the next 5 seconds, I was able to run around a corner, he landed, I got lock, and boom, one salved killed him. How is that fair? Well, it's about as fair as flying with unlimited lateral movement at 80kph with stealth, Avengers, and DR flamethrower.
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Post by cheap on Aug 17, 2019 21:19:46 GMT -5
with the right skills Phase can be used Ridiculously quick on a Ares, i'am Ashamed to have tested this out today and wasted over 4k au trying it out
most likely i will waste more this week on a Ao Jun too.
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Post by WattTron on Aug 18, 2019 2:43:03 GMT -5
I know the feeling.
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Post by elttaes on Aug 18, 2019 4:02:23 GMT -5
P(o)S= no motivation to play.
Dead City, just dropped my Mercury on red side beacon. There are a couple of reds near center. I come around the corner and see a red Inquisitor jumping into center beacon while the other red is headed elsewhere. Slow robot, by itself. I count to 4 while I line up my jump. Jump, Helldive, turn... and he's used PS. No damage from my hellfire, his PS wears off at the same time as my stealth. I'm shredded.
I tactically outmaneuvered him, this is why I play War Robots! It's so awesome when I manage to pull it off! ...Then he just pushes a button, spends a little money and gets to completely ignore the fact that I outplayed him.
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Post by mechtout on Aug 18, 2019 9:58:23 GMT -5
Just saw a pursuer use stealth, then phase shift, then stealth again, then phase shift again, all in a row. assume he has pilot skills or boosts to reduce time. now that's a fully decked out bot.
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Post by rags on Aug 18, 2019 13:55:42 GMT -5
P(o)S= no motivation to play. Dead City, just dropped my Mercury on red side beacon. There are a couple of reds near center. I come around the corner and see a red Inquisitor jumping into center beacon while the other red is headed elsewhere. Slow robot, by itself. I count to 4 while I line up my jump. Jump, Helldive, turn... and he's used PS. No damage from my hellfire, his PS wears off at the same time as my stealth. I'm shredded. I tactically outmaneuvered him, this is why I play War Robots! It's so awesome when I manage to pull it off! ...Then he just pushes a button, spends a little money and gets to completely ignore the fact that I outplayed him. Sounds like he outplayed you. Baited ur dive knowing he was gonna PS
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Post by elttaes on Sept 7, 2019 2:15:01 GMT -5
He was already in the air as I came around the corner.
He didn't have to bait me, he just had a get-out-of-jail-free card. PS sucks.
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