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Post by cookieDad on Aug 14, 2019 5:57:06 GMT -5
If some member has a negative cup-count of at least -200, would you consider kicking someone of a clan?
We are now mid-August, if members are still at -50 or worse.... I am getting tired. Every month same clan members dragging us down, and not reply to messages to push them. Our clan open to advise members who are struggling naturally, but if same members stay in the low, or even negative members, then we may need to "flush" some.
So fellow clan-admins: how do you handle these cases?
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 14, 2019 6:22:32 GMT -5
In my clan, we look at negative numbers as a good thing. It means that they are actively playing and your chance of hooking up with them to squad is good. I'm a clan officer myself, and my cups are usually in the negative. All that number really means is that at the beginning of the season, they probably had some good luck and scored well, but then had some bad games where they lost badly. But, at least they're playing. In my clan, we only care if people have a 0 activity cause that means they're not playing and are taking up a clan seat. Usually, we will try to reach out to them in both the in game chat as well as Discord and if we don't hear from them or hear if no one speaks up on their behalf, we will reluctantly boot them.
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Post by BlackGrouse on Aug 14, 2019 13:17:52 GMT -5
I would look more stats than just cup count. If cups are way under zero, but stats doesn't look he/she is deliberately doing it then no worries. For sure it raises questions, if same members are every month "scoring" negative cups, but then is your clan a clan which really wants to go up in the ranks ? If so, then redefine clan requirements and tell it clearly. That gives you an option to select your members.
In our clan we don't "punish" from low cups. Sometimes battles just goes bad day after day.
I'm leader in our clan and in some month I can score for example 100-200 cups and then next month -200 and I really don't know what I'm doing "wrong". Usually my hangar strength is just not enough to compete in my league and losing points.
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Post by Joopiter on Aug 14, 2019 16:06:23 GMT -5
Do you have a discord server? If so, try and do a vote in your officer's chat on folks that seem inactive or just negative to the clan. We do that and it usually brings up whats going on if there's a reason for their inactivity. And it's a little more democratic to minimize clan memebers being upset that someone was kicked.
No discord? Let them stay and try to chat with them unless you need the space. If you've got fresh players wanting to join, then I say get rid of them if it's been going on for months.
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 14, 2019 16:56:51 GMT -5
I used to track players' clan points as an officer in my old clan. What I noticed is that there are periods where folks will get stuck in terms of their hangar. UBasically means they need to build and upgrade some new bots and maybe weapons to adjust to having moved up in league ranking. Given how slow workshop and upgrading is, that whole process can take a few seasons. But once they do, they start posting positive points and can even become a top scorer for the clan because all that time in the doldrums sharpened their skills.
The other side of the coin is people who barely play. Sometimes that's temporary, but you do get a lot of folks who log in just enough to post 50 points a season and because they play so rarely those will usually be negative points. They're just not active enough to keep up with everything.
I'd keep an eye on how much people are logging in and how their hangar is evolving. If you see them online again and again, even if they stay kind of stuck at a certain number, they'll turn it around in time. Otherwise, it's ok to kick them and try to recruit more active players.
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Post by WattTron on Aug 17, 2019 5:24:33 GMT -5
As someone who has been running a clan for over 2 years now I realize how hard it is to recruit and retain members.
Inactivity is the main ingredient to booting a member.
All I ask is that the people in my clan be active. After about 3 weeks of seeing a 0 next to the player I boot the member
only when I have a new member to replace the spot so basically I like to keep a level of at least 2 vacant slots and manage
the clan that way.
As far as promotions go I have stricter standards for that group and I like to keep the level there to a maximum of 8 or so.
If you are communicative in the guild chat, always active and participate in Squads or head up squads, even better, you will
quickly find yourself promoted.
I understand that people have off periods and that the transition from Master to Champion league can be a painful process of ups and downs
in the rating. Just because I got someone with a -200 does not justify booting the member ever in my book. Inactivity is what will
grind your clan to a halt thus this is the key factor in all considerations.
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Post by zombiecyborg on Aug 19, 2019 20:41:53 GMT -5
Lack of respect and disregard for simple decency....boot
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Post by Whoopecushn on Aug 20, 2019 0:28:57 GMT -5
Inactive players get the boot. Don’t care about their cup score. Negative clan points aren’t a problem, I take that as they’re being active players. If they’re active they’re grinding for better upgrades. Our only rule is to be active and have fun.
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Post by balrog89 on Aug 20, 2019 10:56:12 GMT -5
It all depends on what you want your clan to be.
Are you a Champions League clan aiming to go toe to toe with the top S clans? If so, lost points hurt and hurt a lot. It is hard to rise in clan rankings with members holding you back.
Are you a clan that focuses on fun and are not worried about being one of the top dogs? If so, negative points shouldn't matter at all. Just let your members have fun. The main thing is activity.
In either case, just kicking him is not the best thing to do. As mentioned, talk to the member. See why they are going negative. Is it a lack of good equipment? Is it play style? Is it a combination of the two? In most cases stronger players can work with the ones who are not as strong and make them better.
If you are trying to rise in clan rankings, you should know quickly if the player is a "lost cause". We have had some. We have tried to work with them. They had bad habits and did not wish to break those habits. Habits like being too aggressive or putting low level gear in their hanger repeatedly. In our case it was better for the clan to cut ties.
If you are more worried about your members having fun, you can take more time. Just remember, if the player is squadding with other members and his actions or gear is causing other members to lose, you may find those other members refusing to squad with him or just quitting the clan. We experienced both and both actions hurt the clan.
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Post by CarlosDanger on Aug 24, 2019 7:11:14 GMT -5
If some member has a negative cup-count of at least -200, would you consider kicking someone of a clan? We are now mid-August, if members are still at -50 or worse.... I am getting tired. Every month same clan members dragging us down, and not reply to messages to push them. Our clan open to advise members who are struggling naturally, but if same members stay in the low, or even negative members, then we may need to "flush" some. So fellow clan-admins: how do you handle these cases? We kick everyone who was inactive for a season. They can always reapply. I hate to see people kicked for negative cups unless you’re a super competitive clan I suppose. Everyone is trying to develop. Everyone hit plateaus. |
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