Skilled Top Tier Champ Play

Whoa NICE! How did you trap him in that yellow circle?

I trained meme skills at The Dark Society of Memes since infanthood.

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I pick knowing how bad you're going to get it when your silly ability ends. 

Every single weapon and mech in this game requires skill to use effectively; some a bit more than others due to various deficits or somewhat complicated mechanics, so please enlighten me on what exactly it is people here think ‘skill’ is.

As for your reply above, it is as if you didnt read all the things I wrote. Tbh, after all these years, seeing how everything requires skills here to be combat effective and have combat longevity, it has become clear to me that the real reason people say something is “skilless” or “requires no skill” is that they are frustrated dealing with the equipment in question, so they are using social mediums to vent it. The arguments people make for lack of skill are not based in the reality of the facts of situation. For example, in general people say Hydras are a ‘no skill weapon’ just because sometimes you can easily hit targets by standing still and hitting the fire button. The more detailed reality of Hydras is that they are a psy-op weapon that perform their functions well, which is not so much to kill as it is to disturb enemy pilots who often make tactical errors as a result; they disrupt travel routes and so on. Further, they have a serious ‘adjustment deficit’ due to navigating obstacles and shields that can result in wasted ammo and especially wasted time. Zenits and Noricum are another example. The effectiveness of these depends on many factors, a large one being the skill of the pilot. If you dont know the best range of Noricum or how they work or how to lead or how to bait or how to target select of how to adjust range and positioning, you will not land very many hits.

So in the case here, crap talking an Ao Jun, we can easily say the same thing of an Inquisitor, just jump and stealth and shoot....and people have; they have complained and said it is a no skill stealth bot, and since it actually requires a lot of skills to be effective, we can again conclude that people are simply frustrated because they keep getting wasted by them, they dont have one themselves, or they are frustrated because they cant figure out how to improve their combat tactics to oppose the Inquisitor.

Some comment about certain game mechanics requiring payment to function, and for sure to get certain results this can be true, though it is not necessarily set in stone. For example, certain low Gust/Halo placement on low stature mechs do not require Quantum Radar to hit grounded stealth targets. Other mechs with higher weapon mounts do, so this is a deficit for them. The way to oppose then becomes awareness of opponent equipment and positions, and positioning well to use cover and distance to time out their stealth before attacking them. However, there will never be a perfect all-around mech because there are too many factors. What then are we left with?

Tactical combat skills. With them, we can even make things like a Cossack and a Destrier perform magic in Champ League. Without developing general and mech/weapon specific skills and knowledge, we will not be very effective even with the most OP stuff in the game.

I have an Ao Jun, and while it does take a modicum of skill not to totally screw up with it, the impact on the game it has compared to a skillfully piloted Strider are not even remotely comparable.

Yes, everyone already knows the Ao Jun is an OP design and even more so in a skilled pilots hands. . The issue brought up by this thread though is the tendency for people to look at ‘skill’ in a very shallow way that lacks perspective on the facts of gameplay, and is really nothing more than a means to vent frustration with game content.

I would say this though - I do agree the Ao Jun takes less skills that some other mechs do to inflict massive damage, not only because of how much fire power it has, compared to a Strider that while it can inflict massive damage and multiple casualties as well, there is a more tricky skill set required to stay alive long enough to accomplish that. This DOES NOT however mean an Ao Jun requires no skills to have a prolonged impact on a match.

Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say here as well as the earlier post.

Aw man! When you put it like that, it's a miracle that I can last more than 2 min in my Ao Jun!

Ao Jun doesn't work in champs. everybody has 4 ares. If i press the button on 350m, then i am dead. ares can chase and kill me when i land. Ao Jun doesn't work on ares trains.

Hover works in champs, so don't tell me that Ao Jun doesn't.

As stated above, counter punch.

Every thing was going perfectly beautiful until you named damn hydras....