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Post by CrownBlack on Nov 29, 2018 11:55:06 GMT -5
1)is this thing even worth upgrading ??
2)what do i put on it???
3)is it a better brawler or better with mid range gear?
i hover between master 1 and champ.
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Post by T-Town Striker on Nov 29, 2018 12:28:25 GMT -5
1)is this thing even worth upgrading ?? 2)what do i put on it??? 3)is it a better brawler or better with mid range gear? i hover between master 1 and champ. Seriously , Between master and champ and asking original post ?
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Post by CrownBlack on Nov 29, 2018 12:34:14 GMT -5
1)is this thing even worth upgrading ?? 2)what do i put on it??? 3)is it a better brawler or better with mid range gear? i hover between master 1 and champ. Seriously , Between master and champ and asking original post ? here is just a little background....I have been away from the game for a long time...left before all the rooting weapons came out and around the time when the Falcon was just getting released. so hence I am asking about it because I know very little about it. see I can acknowledge my own ignorance and come on here and post something unlike someone who has ZERO idea about someone's background and post's something anyways. Job well done!! Now go see if you can make it to post #200
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Post by eco on Nov 29, 2018 12:34:24 GMT -5
The falcon has potential but most are disapointed. It’s a difficult bot to manoeuvre right. Leveling the bot and three heavies is expensive. Very effective builds I encountered where the heavy lockdown weapon plus two dragoons, avenger (budget option) ember
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Nov 29, 2018 12:51:56 GMT -5
Avenger is the best as it is 1. Cheap 2. Very good close range punishment 3. Fairly high dmg at 400-500 m. The ability is mostly used to bust out the dmg at higher ranges. But note ONE thing. ALL weapons other than avenger and MAYBE ember won't work as the weapon in the middle slot. Examples: 1 the redeemer fires WAY too slow. 2. Exodus (heavy taran ) can't sustain its dps for long enough(heavy orkan). 3. Viper might just work ( heavy corrosion weapon). Thunder cannot sustain high dps at 300 m. If you want a versatile build for most encounters go for avengers ( scourges can counter avenger falcon). If you want stable close range performance go for ember. If you want an ambushed go for 1x avenger and 2x exodus. Glory isn't recommended for lockdown purposes. Zenit isn't recommended bc it is Zenit ( this applies to nashorn Lang date and trebs aswell. Zeus isn't recommended as the ability will let you shoot the zeuses on the "wings" only 2 times. Flux for ( long range ) dragoon (for mid range) work great. Experiment in any way you like with the weapons on the wings but try to not remove the avenger/ember from the main slot.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 29, 2018 12:52:24 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on the Falcon. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/29336/play-falconTLDR, the Falcon, in most types of builds, is a Skirmisher. You really want to use it's fast ground speed as much as possible and use the Fangs Out only when you are sure of a kill. If you have decent brawling heavy weapons, then great. If not, then run it at MR. If you don't have any decent leveled heavies, then don't bother upgrading the Falcon. My Falcon is currently a Trimera, but since I'm getting bored of the build (yeah yeah, everyone can rejoice), I'm working towards a Viper/Exodus build, and the idea is to piss people off with the Viper to draw them in and then pounce from behind low cover with Exodus.
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Post by RIP_HARAMBE on Nov 29, 2018 12:58:42 GMT -5
I like the Falcon quite a bit and have run one from Diamond through to Master III, which is where I am now. So I can't speak to its viability in the upper echelons, but I do find it a fun bot to pilot. Right now the Meta is Not Chasing the Meta. So, you might find it worth while.
"Passive" mode is super tanky, so you can start using it maybe 4/5. Main limitation there is only 1 heavy weapon so you're not doing enough damage to make it worth running unless you have some decently leveled gear to put on there, like Avenger or Ember.
Alternately, start with long range gear and keep your head down, pop the talons and come in for a kill (or gtfo) blasting with close-range high burst DPS e.g. shotguns or Exodus.
I ran it 3x Avenger for a while, but those have suddenly become a gold item, no longer a cheap fast workshop project.
Mine is currently at lvl9 and decently tanky enough for brawling with an Ember. Yes, it dies, but I take a whole lot of Red HP with me. Great for stalling a beacon conversion / causing massive attrition before backup arrives.
Highly recommend you spin one up on the test server this weekend and try some load outs before you go crazy, but in general it is a rewarding bot for me and I see enough of them out there to know others agree.
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Post by T-Town Striker on Nov 29, 2018 15:53:06 GMT -5
see I can acknowledge my own ignorance and come on here and post something unlike someone who has ZERO idea about someone's background and post's something anyways. Job well done!! Now go see if you can make it to post #200 Ouch, didn’t mean to cut your thin skin
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Post by hi5 on Nov 29, 2018 15:59:17 GMT -5
Another forumite in a different thread about the return of TT Furies made a brilliant comment about using falcon as a TT build. If I had a falcon and wanted to grind out upgrades, I’d slap my OE Tridents on it. Jump plus TT and new reloading mechanic sounds quite fun.
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Post by CrownBlack on Nov 29, 2018 16:02:34 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on the Falcon. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/29336/play-falconTLDR, the Falcon, in most types of builds, is a Skirmisher. You really want to use it's fast ground speed as much as possible and use the Fangs Out only when you are sure of a kill. If you have decent brawling heavy weapons, then great. If not, then run it at MR. If you don't have any decent leveled heavies, then don't bother upgrading the Falcon. My Falcon is currently a Trimera, but since I'm getting bored of the build (yeah yeah, everyone can rejoice), I'm working towards a Viper/Exodus build, and the idea is to piss people off with the Viper to draw them in and then pounce from behind low cover with Exodus. have you tried Tridents on it?
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Post by k5aid on Nov 29, 2018 16:20:19 GMT -5
I saw Manni try them and tridents looked very effective.
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Post by Robrero on Nov 29, 2018 16:43:31 GMT -5
Love my falcon. Triple Avengers rock. Very versatile: You can swap between extreme damage or durabilty + jump ability. High learning curve.
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Post by RIP_HARAMBE on Nov 29, 2018 16:55:59 GMT -5
I had a pair of lvl10 Tridents, sold them for silver - probably to level up the Falcon - at 4.3 update.
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Nov 29, 2018 17:37:28 GMT -5
Like everything it has a niche use. If it fits your play style go for it. If it isn’t everything you hoped for in a bot then sell it.
That said I could see it being an amazing mid ranger. I personally would never brawl in it
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Post by kevinwhit on Nov 29, 2018 21:21:34 GMT -5
Either go fill out nrawling with avenger exodus or fill the mid range role with 3x avenger or tridents. Dragoons are good if you have deep pockets. Finally, if you want to troll, trebs on a jump bot are fun. One thing, if you are in close range, almost never go fangs out unless you either are not targeted or can kill your target quickly.
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Post by hooliganjrs on Nov 29, 2018 21:29:48 GMT -5
Been rocking my level 8 falcon with all avengers (level 9 and no desire to give Pi$o any money on BS root weapons) and she can be a beast until the fangs out icon gets on everyone's radar so you always have to be aware of your target and surroundings. I recently popped an ancile (level 8) on the center and it has become a super tank that still deals decent damage during fangs out mode - plus my falcon stays in the fight a lot longer! YMMV.
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Post by incognitospy on Nov 30, 2018 1:39:12 GMT -5
To me, Falcon is a Fury, with better durability and mobility, that can JUMP.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 30, 2018 8:26:35 GMT -5
I saw Manni try them and tridents looked very effective. No. I never did level up more than one Trident. I always didn't like the way the trident firex. Now that they finally fixed it, it might be a deceng MR build for Falcon.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 30, 2018 8:32:14 GMT -5
I had a good couple of days. I thought it would take me forever to save up the gold to get a Viper. On my last gold chest, I got 6k Viper. Added to the 2k I already had, I only had to spend 1k gold to get the balance. On top of that, my 2nd Exodus will finish in a couple of hours, and my 3rd Spark will get to L9 in less than 2 days so I can star leveling my toys and build a Viper/Exodus Falcon.
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Nov 30, 2018 10:13:53 GMT -5
1)is this thing even worth upgrading ?? 2)what do i put on it??? 3)is it a better brawler or better with mid range gear? i hover between master 1 and champ. with re to 2) What do I put on it?? Falcon looks like a light bot, not very massive. You can try to put on it nice red tartan skirt. Find matching top and seriously... can't you search forum for "falcon"? do you have to start another thread?
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Nov 30, 2018 13:36:38 GMT -5
Have a level 11, with level 11 avenger and 2 x Lvl 6 Exodus. It’s starting to sing at low level Champs FFA. Good ambush bot and normally gets a couple good kills.
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Post by erik1 on Nov 30, 2018 23:11:15 GMT -5
My avenger falcon is my favorite robot even though I'm still getting used to it. Koalabear's post is a great read for this.
From my experience (I'm still only in diamond) it's best used with teammates. A falcon is meant to deal damage and not to take damage, so mostly use it when an opponent is focused on a teammate or caught off guard. One time I parked my falcon inside the Colosseum (in the map Rome) and pelted unsuspecting robots who were walking by and firing at teammates who were out in the open.
However, I have used my Falcon one-on-one against Ancilots, Natashas or Furys knowing that I could either win the fight or cripple the opponent.
Oh, and by the way, with its speed, damage resistance and ability to jump, a falcon makes a great emergency beacon-capper in a pinch.
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Post by CrownBlack on Dec 1, 2018 6:45:07 GMT -5
1)is this thing even worth upgrading ?? 2)what do i put on it??? 3)is it a better brawler or better with mid range gear? i hover between master 1 and champ. with re to 2) What do I put on it?? Falcon looks like a light bot, not very massive. You can try to put on it nice red tartan skirt. Find matching top and seriously... can't you search forum for "falcon"? do you have to start another thread? Funny thing..i did do a search on orangemegatron and all it came up with was just d!ck pics?
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Post by CrownBlack on Dec 1, 2018 11:45:27 GMT -5
I had a good couple of days. I thought it would take me forever to save up the gold to get a Viper. On my last gold chest, I got 6k Viper. Added to the 2k I already had, I only had to spend 1k gold to get the balance. On top of that, my 2nd Exodus will finish in a couple of hours, and my 3rd Spark will get to L9 in less than 2 days so I can star leveling my toys and build a Viper/Exodus Falcon. Thanks for the advice. I am going to try tridents and then I will go for a viper/avenger build with the viper as the main gone. That one will take some time though.
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Dec 2, 2018 4:00:05 GMT -5
with re to 2) What do I put on it?? Falcon looks like a light bot, not very massive. You can try to put on it nice red tartan skirt. Find matching top and seriously... can't you search forum for "falcon"? do you have to start another thread? Funny thing..i did do a search on orangemegatron and all it came up with was just d!ck pics? Search on the forum related on my nick? Interesting... The only d!ck pic that popped up related to my post was your avatar. Sorry, but you asked question about Falcon and this was pretty hot topic for past few weeks. Do your homework, search forum first and stop insulting people.
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Post by Estoplast on Dec 2, 2018 4:44:05 GMT -5
Avengers and Dragoons get the most out of it. Totally different playstyles, but the properties of Falcon give these weapons the edge.
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Post by kevinwhit on Dec 2, 2018 9:25:53 GMT -5
I saw Manni try them and tridents looked very effective. No. I never did level up more than one Trident. I always didn't like the way the trident firex. Now that they finally fixed it, it might be a deceng MR build for Falcon. I can confirm this, even with level 6, 5, and 4 tridents my falcon is destroying. Basically play it like an RDB griff with more splash, more firepower, more range and more health when reloading. It is the Spectre’s nightmare.
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Dec 2, 2018 18:08:37 GMT -5
Level the Falcon, it's versatility with heavy weapons in unrivaled by any other Heavy carrier due to the high mobility and high defensive value. If I want to capture a point in a falcon I just take it, only thing stopping me is 3-5 bots simultaneously shooting me, 1Vs1 even 2Vs1 depending on the build can't stop me from taking it. Sniping is an ease, gotta love it when you can fire 3 heavies over an obstacle from the sky when other heavy toters are waiting for them to come out of cover, or are slowly trolling their way around said obstacle.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 2, 2018 22:45:02 GMT -5
I had a good couple of days. I thought it would take me forever to save up the gold to get a Viper. On my last gold chest, I got 6k Viper. Added to the 2k I already had, I only had to spend 1k gold to get the balance. On top of that, my 2nd Exodus will finish in a couple of hours, and my 3rd Spark will get to L9 in less than 2 days so I can star leveling my toys and build a Viper/Exodus Falcon. Thanks for the advice. I am going to try tridents and then I will go for a viper/avenger build with the viper as the main gone. That one will take some time though. It'll less time than you think. I didn't realize the Viper costs less than the Wasp until this past weekend when they both went on "sale". The Viper is very affordable if you want to spend RM on it, and if not, you can get it for 5k gold. It almost makes me doubt my plan to use the Viper but heck, I'll give it a shot.
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Post by Schquirrelschak on Dec 3, 2018 1:27:40 GMT -5
I run two Falcons at the moment in E3.
First one is a L7 MR brawler with L6Viper w/ 2 L9Dragoons and the other Falcon is L5 & triple Flux'd, L7.
Experience concurs with Koalabear on leveling up these rigs. It's a jumping Fury. The only other bot that comes close in terms of fun-factor and efficacy is a Hover (hence why I run 2 in the same hangar, 5th bot is an Avenger Weyland for the healz)
The Falcons are as formidable as they are flexible.
They are integral to my plan for dealing with the glut of Pantheon pansies that are soon to be encountered in matches across the leagues.
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