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Post by xmarx on Aug 31, 2018 21:24:41 GMT -5
So, I'm back after a long time. What I want to know is that now, after all these changes, is the game fair ? There a lot of new bots now and so are the weapons. Can you guys give me your low-down on that ? I'm surprised to find that you can create spare parts in workshop now. What's your take on it ? Also, I got that gold mining thingy offer which create 1800 gold per month. Is the worth the dough ?
I'm finding a lot changes now. Thats the reason for asking that much questions ! Sorry.
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Post by codebrown on Aug 31, 2018 21:35:13 GMT -5
Kind of a good time to come back, IMHO. Workshop 2.0 just landed, and making a lot of bots became a lot easier.
If you haven't logged into your account for 1.5 years, you should get a bunch of gold, and the chance to buy a free Bulgasari and/or Haechi. Make sure you take advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 22:46:02 GMT -5
The game is less fair today than it was 1.5 years ago. The high end bots and weapons take years and billions of ag to upgrade. You will often face reds many levels above you. This isn't a flaw in the matchmaker. It's designed that way, to try to entice you to buy more power.
All of that said, it's still fun. Just know what the game is so you don't get suckered by it.
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Post by pilotunknown on Sept 1, 2018 0:11:27 GMT -5
The game has turned pay to win after it was sold to Mail.Ru and the player base is getting milked dry. This game is as far from fair as one can imagine. From the recent update, you can make parts for bots in workshop, but this is really just a different monetization model where it is easier to acquire the items, but it cost 2-3 times more Ag to upgrade it, and the upgrade time has increased by 3x or so. To upgrade a specter for example, it is 64 days for MK1, and 128 days for Mk2. It will also cost you 400m Ag. The game has also shifted to a mid range game where everyone is hiding at 500m as exposure will get you killed (due to too much offence). Knife fights are much less common than during the rhino/griffin/lance era. There are also rental boost to increase your offence/defence, which is just another way to pay to win, or at least pay to keep up. There are also now 4 game modes that you have no choice but to play, and some of the game modes are snooze fest where after 10 minutes, the game ends in a 4-4 tie (as a total of 8 bots were destroyed in the game due to everyone hiding at 500m+).
If you want a fair game, you could look at Battle of Titans. It's made by the original team that created Walking War Robots (and they left when Walking War Robots was bought out by mail.ru). Battle of Titans is fair, and isn't pay to win. People with normal parts and skills can beat players with the best parts as the best parts only gives a slight advantage.
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Post by Estoplast on Sept 1, 2018 0:42:41 GMT -5
Sorry for saying this, but fairness is for communists. Nothing is fair, this is an imaginary concept. What gives one the right to demand such things? Gender? Race? Social status? Nationality? Education?
But for the game, yeah... Recent changes in economy will soon have some intersting effects. I gather from the miner question, that you started a new account. Better find your old one. But if that is not an option and if you are willing to spend, the miner is a semi decent thingy.
The post above this is quite bitter and accurate. Battle of Titans is definitely worth trying, not a very polished and smooth game but a good one.
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Post by sonofsam on Sept 1, 2018 0:56:48 GMT -5
Hey I think I left about the same time you did (gunslinger bots were event only) and I came back about3 weeks ago. This game is more unbalanced now.
They have the Spectire which is basically a Griffin with 25% less health but he goes invisible when he jumps and can carry 4 Orks forget about your Anicle he will shoot through it and burn your health up before he becomes visible again. He has a big brother the Inquisitor that has more life 2 medium and one heavy slot but don't worry they made a heavy version of the Orkin so he isn't left out.
The dash bots will cross the map so fast it will make your head spin. You look and it's 900m away you check left and it is hitting you with Orks before you can look back.
Now they have made medium and heavy versions of Aphids so that fun continues. Then to top it off there are medium and light versions of the Thunder and Zeus that do almost as much damage as their heavy cousins. Hell they just released new versions of the Thunder in all 3 classes that do more damage than the old ones and stick you to the ground within the last week.
Just saying get ready for some pain until you get some new gear.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Sept 1, 2018 3:53:38 GMT -5
Its FUBAR. Lots of Lag, Random game modes (which after the update seems to be predominantly Death Match), Match Making has become more efficient in putting you on or in front of a death squad often matching you up against Lv12 and lv12 mk2 (in a world that now has boosters) and all prices have gone up whilst anything you own (including in game currency) has been develued to dirt. But hey, its easier to get bots now as long as you dont level up.
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Post by xmarx on Sept 1, 2018 6:44:25 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the replies ! 1. So, there are boosters in War Robots like in WOT Blitz. Hmmm. 2. codebrown : Yes, I got 8000 Au as a gift. Wondering what to do with it ! I'm in the Gold 2 league now. And considering the higher league opposition I'll be facing, which premium bot I should buy ? By the way, I have around 5k components of Bulgasari as well as Haechi. So, buying them outright would be foolish, right ? Also, what about weapons ? Is there any OP weapons I need to buy right now ? Dragoon ? Vortext ? some other weapon ? 3. sonofsam : The Spectre, right ? Awesome firepower but too fragile IMO. 4. pilotunknown : Battle of Titans ! Yeah, I did saw that game sometime back. Need to take a closer look. 5. ezekielcrow : I played just now to get a taste and it was a clusterf***. Got the match ended with just my second bot in. The red team was just OP. I'm seeing a lot of weird weapons too 6. Anyone playing this game in iPad ? I got an iPad now and finding the controls too unwieldy ! Any tips would be greatly appreciated. 7. Estoplast : No, Its my old account. So, I should get the mining thingy, right ?
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Post by JARVIS on Sept 1, 2018 7:26:21 GMT -5
So, I'm back after a long time. What I want to know is that now, after all these changes, is the game fair ? There a lot of new bots now and so are the weapons. Can you guys give me your low-down on that ? I'm surprised to find that you can create spare parts in workshop now. What's your take on it ? Also, I got that gold mining thingy offer which create 1800 gold per month. Is the worth the dough ? I'm finding a lot changes now. Thats the reason for asking that much questions ! Sorry. Welcome back in the new economy. If you have the newest bots and weapons prepare to grind silver like crazy. Mender level 12 Mk2 397.4 million silver & 129 days 10 hours
Pulsar level 12 Mk2 341.4 million silver & 117 days 10 hours
Shredder level 12 Mk2 273.4 million silver & 91 days 10 hours
Halo level 12 Mk2 271.4 million silver & 91 days 10 hours ____________________________________________ 1,283.6 Billion silver & 429 days 16 hours1.3 Billion silver, a year upgrade time for a single bot with 3 weapons.and Pixonic is nerfing the silver rewards more and more. You need to play 2244 Free For All battles with 2 million damage to upgrade a single Mender bot with 3 weapons. Or 1122 battles with Premium. Around 800+ battles if you buy Ag boosters with gold. _____________________________________________________ Old Economy = 1 year 306 days 21 hours / 2.371 Billion Silver New Economy = 4 years 1 month 11 days / 5.124 Billion Silver Same hangar. Good luck
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Post by xmarx on Sept 1, 2018 11:29:22 GMT -5
Wow ! Four years ?
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Post by ezekielcrow on Sept 1, 2018 13:09:13 GMT -5
Dont quote me on this but I read that pre new economy bots and weapons might still be upgradable under old rates. (I'm just too old or low on coffee to find and link).
Levelling your old bots wont get you near meta but should let you last longer against those death squads.
Also, dont discount the Spectre. Theres a reason its top dog. I run a lv9/9 tulu spec and it kicks but from gold to diamond.
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Post by parafob66 on Sept 1, 2018 13:14:34 GMT -5
Talking about game now, I admit that pix fixed game in 4.3 , 1gb devices can play the game again after almost 3 months of crash.
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Post by sonofsam on Sept 1, 2018 13:29:44 GMT -5
Talking about game now, I admit that pix fixed game in 4.3 , 1gb devices can play the game again after almost 3 months of crash. If by play you mean it doesn't crash sure I can play. If you mean doesn't get so laggy that a Natasha can creep up on you while it's glitched...not so much. But at least it doesn't crash right?
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Post by parafob66 on Sept 1, 2018 13:42:52 GMT -5
Talking about game now, I admit that pix fixed game in 4.3 , 1gb devices can play the game again after almost 3 months of crash. If by play you mean it doesn't crash sure I can play. If you mean doesn't get so laggy that a Natasha can creep up on you while it's glitched...not so much. But at least it doesn't crash right? Yes, lags are still problem, but not as much as before.
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Post by xmarx on Sept 1, 2018 21:12:42 GMT -5
So, which bot should I get for this 9000 gold I have ? Any recommendations?
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Post by bronzeknee on Sept 1, 2018 21:49:59 GMT -5
I can only imagine this is like an auto worker in Detroit awakening after a 40 year coma to see what has happened to his beloved city.
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Post by pilotunknown on Sept 1, 2018 22:00:55 GMT -5
Sorry for saying this, but fairness is for communists. Nothing is fair, this is an imaginary concept. What gives one the right to demand such things? Gender? Race? Social status? Nationality? Education? Many of the most popular games are fair. PUBG is fair. You can't buy power like in War Robots. The games that sells power are the games where they don't think the game will be successful and won't be able to create a large player base, so instead of trying to get $50 from a large player base, they cash out and try to get $3k from just the whales, like War Robots. Here's the kicker: Mail.ru and the management in War Robots are cashing out and milking the whales. This kind of tells you that they don't think the game is good enough to ever built a large player base.
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Post by parafob66 on Sept 2, 2018 5:53:23 GMT -5
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Post by JARVIS on Sept 2, 2018 5:56:12 GMT -5
So, which bot should I get for this 9000 gold I have ? Any recommendations? What are your current bots and weapons? Also your league? Show us your hangar.
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Post by xmarx on Sept 2, 2018 8:35:15 GMT -5
I can only imagine this is like an auto worker in Detroit awakening after a 40 year coma to see what has happened to his beloved city. Everything so strange like in the first episode of Iron Fist ? Here's my squad btw.
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Post by JARVIS on Sept 2, 2018 8:43:23 GMT -5
xmarx Maybe buy Zeus(or Flux) for your Leo and replace Gareth with Galahad (you will need extra magnum)? My personal choice will be to ditch the Gareth and the Leo and get 4 Orkans from the Workshop 2.0 to use them on DB Griffins (Orkan Pinata) Oh and the best part is that you don't need to spend gold on Orkans 1. Go to WORKSHOP 2.0 2. Choose weapon tab and find Orkan 3. Start building 400 Orkan components for 110k silver each Every 2h35m check and restart the production for new 400 Orkan components. If you have all 6 production slots open then you can build an Orkan for 13 hours with 2,750,000 silver only. ______ The Orkans are going to be very useful if you get Haechi or Spectre in future.
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Post by xmarx on Sept 2, 2018 21:02:50 GMT -5
Thanks @jarvis. I'll farm orkans from now on in the workshop.
Regarding the gold bot, is Butch good enough with 4x trebuchet ? Or get the community favourite Lancelot ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 0:34:58 GMT -5
Play an EA game instead; it's cheaper.
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Post by xmarx on Sept 3, 2018 2:25:26 GMT -5
Play an EA game instead; it's cheaper. I agree ! But, I like this game..to an extent Anyway, recommendations are welcome on which bot to get (using the free gold I got).
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Post by JARVIS on Sept 3, 2018 8:28:04 GMT -5
Thanks @jarvis. I'll farm orkans from now on in the workshop. Regarding the gold bot, is Butch good enough with 4x trebuchet ? Or get the community favourite Lancelot ? Butch is the best Trebuchet bot but I will go with Dragoon Fury (600m range) or Flux Fury (1100m range) instead. But long range camping is not my play style. I will play with 4 close range brawlers and 1 mid-ranger (RDB) in lower leagues up to Expert 1. That's the best configuration for single hangar in my experience. 4 Brawlers + 1 Mid-ranger
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Post by xmarx on Sept 3, 2018 11:39:18 GMT -5
Thanks @jarvis. I'll farm orkans from now on in the workshop. Regarding the gold bot, is Butch good enough with 4x trebuchet ? Or get the community favourite Lancelot ? Butch is the best Trebuchet bot but I will go with Dragoon Fury (600m range) or Flux Fury (1100m range) instead. But long range camping is not my play style. I will play with 4 close range brawlers and 1 mid-ranger (RDB) in lower leagues up to Expert 1. That's the best configuration for single hangar in my experience. 4 Brawlers + 1 Mid-ranger So, are you recommending fury ? But, getting three dragoons seems costly. May be I should start with that three heavy rocket thingy first which I have now or even the trebuchet. I can farm the dragoon in the mean time.
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Post by JARVIS on Sept 3, 2018 12:41:46 GMT -5
Butch is the best Trebuchet bot but I will go with Dragoon Fury (600m range) or Flux Fury (1100m range) instead. But long range camping is not my play style. I will play with 4 close range brawlers and 1 mid-ranger (RDB) in lower leagues up to Expert 1. That's the best configuration for single hangar in my experience. 4 Brawlers + 1 Mid-ranger So, are you recommending fury ? But, getting three dragoons seems costly. May be I should start with that three heavy rocket thingy first which I have now or even the trebuchet. I can farm the dragoon in the mean time. I recommend you to play with 5 Griffins just like I said above. 3 Orkans Pinatas, 1 Tarans Magnums and 1 Tulumbas Pins. Griffins are powerful, cheap and versatile bots with jump. Good for capturing beacons and protecting them. If you get bored with the Griffins then get Rogatka, Carnage, Rhino or Galahad. Of course the best browler bots are Taran Haechi or Orkan Spectre. The new weapons like Scourge, Shocktrain are too expensive to upgrade. That's why I recommend Tarans and Orkans.
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Post by hi5 on Sept 3, 2018 19:26:07 GMT -5
Play an EA game instead; it's cheaper. I agree ! But, I like this game..to an extent Anyway, recommendations are welcome on which bot to get (using the free gold I got). I would not think of gold as somthing to use to get a new bot. It’s much better used now to speed upgrades, which are much longer. And the new workshop let’s you get any bot or weapon you want for silver and some time. Play with what you have for a little while and get the lay of the land (use Hangar X and Skirmish to test out new things). It’s no longer a struggle to get gear, now it takes a lot of time and silver to level - carefully spending your resources is the most important thing. With that in mind, if you just wanna spend some gold now this list shows everything you can buy outright for gold. api.warrobots.net/storage/content/pictures/290/content_items42_en.jpgKumiho is fun with Orks but I wouldn’t recommend much else.
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Post by xmarx on Sept 3, 2018 20:33:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies again !
OK, I'll concentrate on getting the orkans for the time being.
BTW, is trident good enough ? How about a trident fury ? Is it a bad idea ?
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Post by xmarx on Sept 4, 2018 5:17:58 GMT -5
I agree ! But, I like this game..to an extent Anyway, recommendations are welcome on which bot to get (using the free gold I got). I would not think of gold as somthing to use to get a new bot. It’s much better used now to speed upgrades, which are much longer. And the new workshop let’s you get any bot or weapon you want for silver and some time. Play with what you have for a little while and get the lay of the land (use Hangar X and Skirmish to test out new things). It’s no longer a struggle to get gear, now it takes a lot of time and silver to level - carefully spending your resources is the most important thing. With that in mind, if you just wanna spend some gold now this list shows everything you can buy outright for gold. api.warrobots.net/storage/content/pictures/290/content_items42_en.jpgKumiho is fun with Orks but I wouldn’t recommend much else. I have Kumiho and I wanted Vortex on it originally. I only have one Vortex now but I'll farm the second Vortex after finishing with my second Orkan Griffin. Just played with Tulumbas and Vortex on the Kumiho and it was fun. Unload Tulumbas and dash to close in and unload Vortex. Then dash back unloading Tulumbas again ! A decent harassment set up !
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