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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Aug 27, 2018 18:20:39 GMT -5
I remember hearing about it, but I was really surprised to see something about CLAN RANKINGS/LEAGUES pop up... Share your first impressions warrobots.net/en/posts/269
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Aug 27, 2018 19:23:27 GMT -5
Ug, I don’t like the idea that we, individually, can lose rank for our clan. So if I have a bad streak and lose a task for our clan then I have to deal with this peer pressure. That’s F’d up. My clan mates and leader are very chill, but still I’ll know and feel self inflicted pressure.
They don’t explain the metrics by which a clan gains or loses tasks and what the ranks are (S rank?). Maybe it won’t be that bad. Ha ha, this is Pix, there’s gonna be some grindy gimmick to it.
I do like the idea of extra clan tasks but if they are all for boosters then it’s a wash.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Aug 27, 2018 19:40:17 GMT -5
Ug, I don’t like the idea that we, individually, can lose rank for our clan. So if I have a bad streak and lose a task for our clan then I have to deal with this peer pressure. That’s F’d up. My clan mates and leader are very chill, but still I’ll know and feel self inflicted pressure. They don’t explain the metrics by which a clan gains or loses tasks and what the ranks are (S rank?). Maybe it won’t be that bad. Ha ha, this is Pix, there’s gonna be some grindy gimmick to it. I do like the idea of extra clan tasks but if they are all for boosters then it’s a wash. Im definitely wondering about those metrics, too. Ideally, Im setting high hopes that this will be a turnaround for Tankers/Faders but its too soon to tell, so far. Wonder what the "S" stands for? Me, too.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Aug 27, 2018 21:23:46 GMT -5
I think this will be a good improvement. No more clan rank based on cup activity. So clan with Full Champ has added advantage especially if they're on good run winning every battles. This reflects the true clan skills/power.
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Post by T34 on Aug 27, 2018 21:45:18 GMT -5
It will provide more advantage to the whale clans IMO. They are the ones usually that have huge win % rates while most other players will be sitting around the 50% mark. For the non whales I somehow think it wont make a difference. Since the MM-er pushes all people (excepted maxed players and maxed squad players) TOWARDS 50% there is no performance differentiation between people. League positions mostly reflect bot and weapons strength.
Claiming "better" performance as a viable matrix is shambles.
So, if you wanna be in a top clan than you need to join a whale clan. If you want into a whale clan you have to be a whale. If you don't than the usual story, krill fight amongst yourselves.
I have a feeling that this will somehow be manipulated by tanker clans. Once you tie payout to performance than there has to be a loophole somewhere and hence whales and grinders get rewarded.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Aug 28, 2018 11:29:09 GMT -5
It will provide more advantage to the whale clans IMO. They are the ones usually that have huge win % rates while most other players will be sitting around the 50% mark. For the non whales I somehow think it wont make a difference. Since the MM-er pushes all people (excepted maxed players and maxed squad players) TOWARDS 50% there is no performance differentiation between people. League positions mostly reflect bot and weapons strength. Claiming "better" performance as a viable matrix is shambles. So, if you wanna be in a top clan than you need to join a whale clan. If you want into a whale clan you have to be a whale. If you don't than the usual story, krill fight amongst yourselves. I have a feeling that this will somehow be manipulated by tanker clans. Once you tie payout to performance than there has to be a loophole somewhere and hence whales and grinders get rewarded. There will most lijely be an exploitable loophole in there somewhere... If anything, perhaps it will clearly define who is tanking and who is playing a lot. That would be decent enough... for me anyway... So when someone post a profile shot of their hangar, or whatever, it could be verily clear that it was attained by nefarious means. Im expecting a Friday article to explain more (hopefully). I'm still shocked by this, out of the blue, development.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Aug 28, 2018 23:25:36 GMT -5
I'm sure as hell not going to be shaming my clanmates with expected performance statistics or expecting a certain standard of gameplay. And without AP how will I know who the active members are each week? I have no desire to run a 「fluffernutter」ing deadend parking lot clan. As it is now it is nearly impossible to get members who can attain a measly 100 AP per week in my Amazon BATTLEHAMMER clan.
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Post by windcaster on Aug 29, 2018 0:14:57 GMT -5
Maybe someone can explain it to me cause Im a little confused on the details of how it works. Sounds like it.. COULD be good.. im not sure ?
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Post by Estoplast on Aug 29, 2018 1:47:52 GMT -5
Do these country filters work for anybody? I can only see a couple of clans. Since the filter release.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Aug 29, 2018 2:11:48 GMT -5
Do these country filters work for anybody? I can only see a couple of clans. Since the filter release. What did you filter? International? Then you see all remaining clans that did not associated to any countries. That international filter should consist every clans in my opinion. Or pixo create another filter named "All clans"
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Post by Estoplast on Aug 29, 2018 3:18:15 GMT -5
If i choose not to use filer, it shows me 10 clans. I guess there must be more... International shows only 10 too.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Aug 29, 2018 3:36:33 GMT -5
Then something wrong. Or perhaps since new rank system is not live yet, there are no data to pull from? Let's wait until 3rd September where the new rank system start.
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Post by Royce on Aug 29, 2018 17:50:30 GMT -5
Wonder what the "S" stands for? Me, too. In Gacha type super exploitative free to play games S is generally the rank above A. The rest work like school grades.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Aug 30, 2018 9:27:48 GMT -5
Wonder what the "S" stands for? Me, too. In Gacha type super exploitative free to play games S is generally the rank above A. The rest work like school grades. Nice! In school, I was verily satisfied with "passing" thru the week, keeping attention off me and partying on the weekends, i hever chased, nor worked toward A's, so I will perfectly fit into this system, just fine!
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Aug 30, 2018 11:18:12 GMT -5
Not clear that tankers will suffer? Tankers usually run a huge volume and it seems volume of play is the key metric? Anyone figure out how this works? What is taken into account for clan ranks? Is it just volume of play or is it wins, damage done, ?
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Post by EatStinkyTofu on Aug 30, 2018 13:04:14 GMT -5
I don’t think it will affect tankers.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Aug 30, 2018 18:46:28 GMT -5
I suspect that on Friday an article will be out explaining the changes and determining factors.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Aug 31, 2018 13:40:52 GMT -5
I suspected wrong
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Sept 1, 2018 11:16:25 GMT -5
We will figure it out eventually
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Post by >bobby_digital< on Sept 3, 2018 12:48:46 GMT -5
Maybe someone can explain it to me cause Im a little confused on the details of how it works. Sounds like it.. COULD be good.. im not sure ? simply...
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ANATHEMA
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Post by ANATHEMA on Sept 3, 2018 13:15:09 GMT -5
Do these letters make any sense? I'm looking at them and feeling slow…
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Post by zombiewolf907 on Sept 3, 2018 13:58:02 GMT -5
It appears that the Clan ranking is the total increase/decrease earned by each individual in the clan. So if you ear 13 cups the total is added to the clan and lose 22 and your clan is dropped by 22. Once you Increase a level there is a challenge and your clan gets a reward. We got silver. Higher clan ranker has more daily clan tasks. At F we have one now.
WhatI I don’t like - can’t monitor individual clan member activities (or so it appears.) Also in a MM system that keeps appears to keep us right at 50% then the average clan won’t rise much in a month while the OP clans will increase and get the max daily clan activities. The rich get richer. The only disincentive for tanking I see at this time is your clan ranking goes down while you tank; however, what stops you from dropping out - tank - then rejoin your clan?
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 3, 2018 14:39:40 GMT -5
Do these letters make any sense? I'm looking at them and feeling slow⦠Yup. All by myself I moved my clan from an F rating to FF. So from 「fluffernutter」tarded to 「fluffernutter」ing 「fluffernutter」tarded. All by myself. 「fluffernutter」ery. Just 「fluffernutter」ery.
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ANATHEMA
Destrier
Posts: 104
Karma: 47
Pilot name: A N A T H E M A
Platform: iOS
League: Champion
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Post by ANATHEMA on Sept 3, 2018 14:48:10 GMT -5
Do these letters make any sense? I'm looking at them and feeling slowâ?¦ Yup. All by myself I moved my clan from an F rating to FF. So from ?fluffernutter?tarded to ?fluffernutter?ing ?fluffernutter?tarded. All by myself. ?fluffernutter?ery. Just ?fluffernutter?ery. It's like the movie rating system and the 12-tone scale had a 「illegitimate child」 child after eating lead paint chips for a couple of years.
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Post by ranchpig on Sept 3, 2018 15:02:23 GMT -5
Maybe someone can explain it to me cause Im a little confused on the details of how it works. Sounds like it.. COULD be good.. im not sure ? Per the release notes:
Clan rankings determine:
1. The effectiveness of your boosters and a stacking multiplier, higher = better
2. The speed and cost of your upgrades is faster/less expensive 3. Less lag 4. Better Royale drop rates 5. Higher silver payout
5. For top 100 clans, guaranteed MM in your favor
Clan Ranking is a complicated formula but the easiest way to figure it out is to take the number of clan mates and divide that by the amount of money spent that week. Multiply that by active tankers and then subdivide by the total number of Mark 2 weapons. Pretty simple actually.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Sept 3, 2018 16:19:17 GMT -5
Well Pix is back to their usual form. Even more so, this feature is half-baked at best. They shove it in with no article explaining it and the in-game info doesn’t enlighten me. It looks like I increase my individual rank by way of trophies, 400 to move out of G rank. But how many trophies do I have now? And those trophies must be clan accumulated because it goes up to 11k or something. What a mess.
And it’s bugged. My smurf accounts are all in a smurf clan together for custom battle testing purposes but all of them have a caution icon on the clan task tab and say ‘join a clan for these rewards’. My main account is part of a real clan and I don’t have the issue there but some of the other members in the clan do. Quality control is dropping fast. Do they even try anymore?
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Sept 3, 2018 16:59:03 GMT -5
I am an Amazon clan Leader, and it may be wrong, but I just don't give a wheelbarrow full of manure about clan rank anymore. Under the old system we kept pretty low minimum AP (150, and I didn't crack the whip on that), and we still stayed steady in the top 25 International ranks. So for this new system, I just don't care. We'll keep on doing what we do and wreck reds. See you wherever we end up.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Sept 3, 2018 18:23:42 GMT -5
A moderator on Reddit mentioned that someone told them there will be an article about this tomorrow. ?
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Post by Prowler on Sept 4, 2018 4:13:09 GMT -5
Ug, I don’t like the idea that we, individually, can lose rank for our clan. So if I have a bad streak and lose a task for our clan then I have to deal with this peer pressure. That’s F’d up. My clan mates and leader are very chill, but still I’ll know and feel self inflicted pressure. Its a anti tanking measure
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 12, 2018 12:36:36 GMT -5
Has anyone figured out these clan rankings yet? I must be awesome as hell because my two man(myself only) clan has a pretty decent ranking. I booted every member when not one would comply with all of my requirements and the clan of only my two profiles actually jumped 12 ranks.
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