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Post by mille on Aug 6, 2018 11:00:33 GMT -5
I own a Haechi and right now i have 3 orkans on it and i was wondering what the best setup for Haechi is
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Post by VEZ’NAN on Aug 6, 2018 11:39:34 GMT -5
It depends. I'm in Champions League. When my Haechi was below mk1 level 12, it lasted longer with Tarans and the extra 50 meters vs Orkans. Now that it has been upgraded to mk2 level 12, I find it's much more effective with Orkans. I haven't tried it with anything else.
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 6, 2018 11:52:58 GMT -5
It depends on a few things like what the Red are running and what other bots and weapons you are running.
Overall you have the best setup now just make it all MK2 Second best is Tarans. IMO
I run 3 nowadays in different hangars. One with Scourge (never liked them on my Bulg's) One with Storm and the last one has Tulumbas on it at this time in my range hangar.
For instant damage I run Spectre and Inqis loaded with orks or Tarans now.
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Post by mille on Aug 6, 2018 11:58:15 GMT -5
It depends. I'm in Champions League. When my Haechi was below mk1 level 12, it lasted longer with Tarans and the extra 50 meters vs Orkans. Now that it has been upgraded to mk2 level 12, I find it's much more effective with Orkans. I haven't tried it with anything else.
I got my Haechi about one day ago so it is only mk1 level 4. I will try it with the Tarans. Thanks for the answer!
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Post by bronzeknee on Aug 6, 2018 11:59:43 GMT -5
Orkans. You want to limit your exposure time as much as possible, so Dash from cover, unload, and Dash back to cover.
That said the Orkan Haechi is no longer the meta robot it was, so now it should be dropped specifically as a response to certain setups.
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Post by mille on Aug 6, 2018 12:06:50 GMT -5
It depends on a few things like what the Red are running and what other bots and weapons you are running. Overall you have the best setup now just make it all MK2 Second best is Tarans. IMO I run 3 nowadays in different hangars. One with Scourge (never liked them on my Bulg's) One with Storm and the last one has Tulumbas on it at this time in my range hangar. For instant damage I run Spectre and Inqis loaded with orks or Tarans now. I will try to make it all MK2. Thanks for the answer!
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Post by mille on Aug 6, 2018 12:10:52 GMT -5
Orkans. You want to limit your exposure time as much as possible, so Dash from cover, unload, and Dash back to cover. That said the Orkan Haechi is no longer the meta robot it was, so now it should be dropped specifically as a response to certain setups. So the Orkans are better than the Tarans. Thanks for the answer!
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Post by gman4hire on Aug 6, 2018 12:31:08 GMT -5
i run mine with scourge as i wanted the upgraded orks for my spectre. It worked well with orkans but i do like the scourge, that said you have to no your enemy is alone and be confident you can win a 1vs1 as the best tactic is to sneak in, get locked, start to fire then use the dash to close in quick! meaning a fast retreat isnt possible so situation awareness is key. I run lvl9 in android E3 so no guarantee or instant death. I also dont use boosters, so sometimes an enemy that should die doesnt, and im dropping another bot. I dont run this build late in a game as tarancilots are more prevelent. Got railroaded by a plasma gary earlier today and was screwed!.... its still hurting, i wont lie : (
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 6, 2018 12:31:12 GMT -5
Orkans. You want to limit your exposure time as much as possible, so Dash from cover, unload, and Dash back to cover. That said the Orkan Haechi is no longer the meta robot it was, so now it should be dropped specifically as a response to certain setups. So the Orkans are better than the Tarans. Thanks for the answer! Played correctly most of the time yes IMO.
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 6, 2018 12:32:08 GMT -5
i run mine with scourge as i wanted the upgraded orks for my spectre. It worked well with orkans but i do like the scourge, that said you have to no your enemy is alone and be confident you can win a 1vs1 as the best tactic is to sneak in, get locked, start to fire then use the dash to close in quick! meaning a fast retreat isnt possible so situation awareness is key. I run lvl9 in android E3 so no guarantee or instant death. I also dont use boosters, so sometimes an enemy that should die doesnt, and im dropping another bot. I dont run this build late in a game as tarancilots are more prevelent. Got railroaded by a plasma gary earlier today and was screwed!.... its still hurting, i wont lie : ( I use mine as a Kumi / Haechi hunter. Wait for the right moment and Zap.
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Post by windcaster on Aug 6, 2018 13:13:16 GMT -5
Most Haechi's are Orkan or Taran, I personally prefer Orkan.
I've also seen a few scourge which can be effective as well.
Don't really see many other setups.. My vote is orkan.
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Post by ░SᑌᑕKᗩ░ᘻC░ on Aug 6, 2018 13:45:49 GMT -5
My main hangar currently has 3 Haechi mk1 lvl 11 with Orkans, Tarans, and Scourge all mk1 lvl 12. All work really well. The Tarans are especially effective since the bug fix (they now work as they should). I use the above setups and have enjoyed success because of my playstyle using those weapons.
I've tinkered with setups using storms, STs, hydras, punishers, and vorteci's lol. Some pilots in my clan swear that using hydras and storms are where it's at.
Stick with the orkans for now but definitely experiment with others to see what works best for you. As my Dude Tricky would say, YMMV.
And congrats on the Hey-hey. It's a game changer.
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Post by kellhound2002 on Aug 6, 2018 13:57:03 GMT -5
I used to run mine with orkans but have since switched to tarans for hunting kumihos and other haechis. Orkans is still a very effective good all around build though.
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Post by Imbafreak on Aug 6, 2018 16:10:34 GMT -5
I have had a Haechi for a while now and while I haven't tried other comos than the one with Orkans, I think it's the best cause of the squishy-ness of the bot itself. Dash in, fire and dash out. Other than that, the Scourge build is powerful cause of the range:damage ratio.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 6, 2018 17:09:28 GMT -5
orkans.
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Post by TheRageMonster on Aug 11, 2018 1:04:14 GMT -5
I recently switched to tarans after the bug fix they got; it's really good at hunting kumihos (of which I see more than enough of here in Amazon) and other haechis (the meta bot in Amazon). So for the other servers, I would recommend orkans. For Amazon, tarans or scourge work really well.
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Post by kab00m on Aug 11, 2018 4:31:19 GMT -5
I own a Haechi and right now i have 3 orkans on it and i was wondering what the best setup for Haechi is 3 hydras and stay always one step ahead by checking distances from the enemy bots- stay around 550 meters from them and keep both dashes loaded only to be used when necessary.... In that way I make through full games with my haichi
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Post by sm94 on Aug 12, 2018 0:12:30 GMT -5
I own a Haechi and right now i have 3 orkans on it and i was wondering what the best setup for Haechi is 3 hydras and stay always one step ahead by checking distances from the enemy bots- stay around 550 meters from them and keep both dashes loaded only to be used when necessary.... In that way I make through full games with my haichi That just seems like such a waste of a great brawler bot. If you had a fujin, id understand.
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Post by k5aid on Sept 10, 2018 17:41:04 GMT -5
I agree that with orkans, you can't go wrong!! I love my haechi as much as my Spectres and kumiho. If I had to replace my Raijin, I would use a bulgasari.
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Post by orionpax on Sept 11, 2018 13:24:05 GMT -5
I have 2 and only run 1. I run it with scourges! This bot is about to be nerfed so you might want to wait and spend your resources on something better. Just my humble opinion
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Post by rags on Sept 11, 2018 15:03:38 GMT -5
I own a Haechi and right now i have 3 orkans on it and i was wondering what the best setup for Haechi is 3 hydras and stay always one step ahead by checking distances from the enemy bots- stay around 550 meters from them and keep both dashes loaded only to be used when necessary.... In that way I make through full games with my haichi sounds like that guy whoâs still on his first bot by the time the rest of his team dies and then gets his hangar emptied by being spawn 「grape」.
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Post by linearblade on Sept 12, 2018 5:26:15 GMT -5
The best setup for it is in storage, guarding your shocktrains
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Post by codebrown on Sept 12, 2018 11:30:25 GMT -5
It's a matter of playstyle preference, honestly. I've run all three setups (orkan/taran/scourge) and they're all good, but have their pros and cons.
Playing with Orkans is playing an assassin, and is easily the most popular loadout because of the meta. Get close, hop out to blow someone up, and get back to cover to reload before anyone else engages you. It's biggest weakness is crowds and shields, so you have to adjust your playstyle around that. Your damage sustainability is low compared to taran & scourge so you can't brawl in crowds quite like they can. Strong vs. physical shields, britbots and the current jump/stealth meta. Very common to bait an Orkan Spectre into jumping you, dash behind cover until his stealth wears off, dash out and blow him up. (Your shield will usually let you win those gunfights from my experience.)
Tarans is the best all around brawler. Dmg output is great. You'll do more damage with tarans than orkans, but you'll die faster. Strong vs. other dashbots and shields.
Scourge is somewhere in between, with the strong possibility of a midrange support role. Easily the most versatile loadout of the three. It's biggest weakness is the jumpstealth meta. You're target practice if you can't lock on. You can play around it though if you save your dashes.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Sept 12, 2018 11:39:31 GMT -5
No one advocating Ballista/Hydra/Ion combo?
Seriously though...anyone running Ions, Pulsars, or Coronas?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 12, 2018 12:05:16 GMT -5
I agree that Orks are prolly the best and Tarans are prolly 2nd best... But I have actual fun with Storms... especially on a closed in map with a lot of cover. I used to love the Thunder Carn days of yore, though, and I play it similarly. If stalking and ambushing is your game, then Stormichi is your name. But it's very situational... so I don't recommend unless you have better platforms for your Orks or Tarans. So, Orks, Tarans, and maybe Scourges if you don't have a better bot for them, out of the most readily available weapons.
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Post by Loganspawn on Sept 12, 2018 13:54:09 GMT -5
I agree that Orks are prolly the best and Tarans are prolly 2nd best... But I have actual fun with Storms... especially on a closed in map with a lot of cover. I used to love the Thunder Carn days of yore, though, and I play it similarly. If stalking and ambushing is your game, then Stormichi is your name. But it's very situational... so I don't recommend unless you have better platforms for your Orks or Tarans. So, Orks, Tarans, and maybe Scourges if you don't have a better bot for them, out of the most readily available weapons.
I have had a blast with storms as well, just have to play extra smart.
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Post by codebrown on Sept 13, 2018 15:48:06 GMT -5
I agree that Orks are prolly the best and Tarans are prolly 2nd best... But I have actual fun with Storms... especially on a closed in map with a lot of cover. I used to love the Thunder Carn days of yore, though, and I play it similarly. If stalking and ambushing is your game, then Stormichi is your name. But it's very situational... so I don't recommend unless you have better platforms for your Orks or Tarans. So, Orks, Tarans, and maybe Scourges if you don't have a better bot for them, out of the most readily available weapons.
They do good as long as you can close, but it's a waste of a bot spot if you get a big wide open map. Generally, I like Storms on the Kumiho more than Haechi. It's fast enough that you can quickly close to within 100m for maximum dmg even on the big maps, something Haechi struggles with if you're smart enough to save your dashes for combat.
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Post by xCHIEFx on Sept 13, 2018 15:52:20 GMT -5
I definitely prefer Orkan as I mainly play FFA, but have also had success with Tarans in some of the random modes.
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Post by RightOn on Sept 18, 2018 14:35:11 GMT -5
Orks
Reload 23 sec
12 sec per dash
Ancile regen 3% per sec
You need to strategize and wait. Haechi is extremely durable if you soak physical and dash energy. Use that splash opportunity...
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Post by kevmac on Sept 18, 2018 21:25:57 GMT -5
Unless grandfathered I don't know how anyone Mk2s anything in this new economy.
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