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Post by garunixreborn on May 17, 2018 5:46:20 GMT -5
I was bored and had nothing to do, so I decided to make a tier list to reflect the overall usefulness of all the bots. So brace yourselves, this may get ugly. S+ Tier: These are undeniably the most powerful bots in the game. Extremely difficult and sometimes impossible to fight against without premium gear S Tier: These bots are not as strong as those in S+, but with a bit of extra skill, they can be just as menacing A Tier: These bots are usually very powerful, but sometimes have difficulty competing against higher tiered bots. With the right weapons sets and specific playstyles, these bots can be almost as dangerous as those in tier S - Kumiho
- Strider
- Lancelot
- Fury
- Natasha
- Rhino
- Butch
B Tier: These bots are overall well balanced and still have a range of roles where they perform well, though those in the higher tiers are oftentimes much better for that role. - Raijin
- Mercury
- Rogatka
- Hover
- Pursuer
- Raven
- Hellburner
- Leo
- Doc
- Carnage
C Tier: These are weaker bots that need a lot of careful gameplay and skill to be used effectively. Their roles are very niche, though they can still make a difference on the battlefield when used in the correct situations - Griffin
- Fujin
- Stalker
- Jesse
- Patton
- Gareth
- Golem
- Boa
D Tier: These bots are very vulnerable and have many situations where they are always at a disadvantage. They usually have almost no roles where they can perform at a standard level, but still in uncommon cases, can be decent support to teammates - Gepard
- Cossack
- Galahad
- Vityaz
F Tier: These bots have absolutely no place in this meta and are completely useless. Only the most skilled of players can make some use out of these bots.
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Post by LEGEND on May 17, 2018 5:50:31 GMT -5
Move Inquisitor up to S+, Griffin and Fujin up to B, Fury into S tier. Also, I do think that the Raijin is a nice bot personally, depending on your playing style.
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Post by LEGEND on May 17, 2018 5:50:50 GMT -5
Why is Galadhad in D tier? It should be in C or B...
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Post by brozart on May 17, 2018 5:52:25 GMT -5
Its a good list but I would not rate Natasha as A
But Pursuer would be A or S And raven / griffin/ galarhead have weak spots but i still take any of them over a natasha
I think about replacing my Kumiho with a raven as my cap bot right now
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Post by Estoplast on May 17, 2018 6:01:24 GMT -5
Raven and Pursuer are stronger. Galahad? Rhino, Strider and Butch are weaker. Natasha so-so...
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Post by locutis on May 17, 2018 6:21:40 GMT -5
Rogatka is better than Fury, Natasha, rhino, and Butch. Nearly equal to Kumiho imo. The 4 I mentioned belong in B tier.
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Post by kukurukukuk on May 17, 2018 6:27:02 GMT -5
Rearranged according to my perception and based on your tier descriptions.
S+: Spectre, Haechi, Bulgasari, Inquisitor S: Fury, Kumiho, Pursuer (?) A: Lancelot, Mercury (?), Raven (?) B: Griffin, Hover, Rogatka, Natasha, Carnage, Strider (?)
C: Butch, Doc, Rhino, Fujin, Raijin, Leo, Galahad, Hellburner (?) D: Stalker, Jesse, Gareth, Gepard, Cossack, Boa, Golem, Patton, Vityaz
F: Destrier, Schutze
Those with question marks are bots that I can only speculate what their performance will be, when they become more common.
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Post by taniel on May 17, 2018 6:33:43 GMT -5
Kukuruku - better lost than OP's but I'd definitely move Rogatka and Hover to the same tier as Raven. Oh, and also Doc should be moved one tier up.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 6:46:21 GMT -5
Fury with dragoons or flux are meta, provided it is only played on a long range map and you have 3-4 brawling/capping bots in the same hangar. Which goes to show that you cannot effectively rank bots but need to look at the bigger picture.
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Post by kukurukukuk on May 17, 2018 6:50:05 GMT -5
Kukuruku - better lost than OP's but I'd definitely move Rogatka and Hover to the same tier as Raven. Oh, and also Doc should be moved one tier up. You are probably right. The differences are small though. Oh, and Griffin should move up a tier if we promote Hover and Rog.
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Post by Lainz on May 17, 2018 6:53:16 GMT -5
Rearranged according to my perception and based on your tier descriptions.
S+: Spectre, Haechi, Bulgasari, Inquisitor S: Fury, Kumiho, Pursuer (?) A: Lancelot, Mercury (?), Raven (?) B: Griffin, Hover, Rogatka, Natasha, Carnage, Strider (?)
C: Butch, Doc, Rhino, Fujin, Raijin, Leo, Galahad, Hellburner (?) D: Stalker, Jesse, Gareth, Gepard, Cossack, Boa, Golem, Patton, Vityaz
F: Destrier, Schutze
Those with question marks are bots that I can only speculate what their performance will be, when they become more common.
Mostly agree (although I didn't play all those bots, especially the new ones), I think Rhino belongs to group B. Maybe Butch too (although with only one build - maybe this limitation could classify it a rank lower).
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Post by FlashAhAhh on May 17, 2018 7:00:03 GMT -5
Rearranged according to my perception and based on your tier descriptions.
S+: Spectre, Haechi, Bulgasari, Inquisitor S: Fury, Kumiho, Pursuer (?) A: Lancelot, Mercury (?), Raven (?) B: Griffin, Hover, Rogatka, Natasha, Carnage, Strider (?)
C: Butch, Doc, Rhino, Fujin, Raijin, Leo, Galahad, Hellburner (?) D: Stalker, Jesse, Gareth, Gepard, Cossack, Boa, Golem, Patton, Vityaz
F: Destrier, Schutze
Those with question marks are bots that I can only speculate what their performance will be, when they become more common.
Spot on imho.
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Post by SGT D00M! on May 17, 2018 9:52:01 GMT -5
You rated the Griffin lower than the Leo and Natasha? Ummmm, no.
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Post by optimusprime on May 17, 2018 10:31:56 GMT -5
You rated the Griffin lower than the Leo and Natasha? Ummmm, no. He lost me with Natasha
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Post by kukurukukuk on May 17, 2018 11:11:07 GMT -5
You rated the Griffin lower than the Leo and Natasha? Ummmm, no. He lost me with Natasha The Natasha can be a very decent range bot. Not too far behind from the Fury.
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Post by optimusprime on May 17, 2018 11:33:12 GMT -5
The Natasha can be a very decent range bot. Not too far behind from the Fury. I know it can but it has no place in that category
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Post by xelraon on May 17, 2018 11:38:27 GMT -5
Natasha is too slow and squishy. Always a welcome target even to an ankle biter. Id rate it a B.
Pursuer should be at least an A. 88 movespeed 10s stealth 3x lvl 12 gusts will rip through almost anything. A well piloted pursuer can kill a whole squad. 1 dead every 20s.
Rhino at A? Id give it a B, even a C. Its too easy to kill a rhino. A griffin is better since it can jump over obstacles. But a rhino can only run a straight line. Cant turn even when standing. It's movement is easily predictable. Its just forward. Easy to bait out of the formation even for a stalker to kill.
Inquisitor should be s+. Thats a jumping stealth with 2 medium 1 heavy weapon 40movespeed with good hp.
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Post by wildboar on May 17, 2018 11:47:12 GMT -5
I have an inquisitor and don't rate it that well ... maybe cos I am a 「dookie」 pilot ... hey ho
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Post by >bobby_digital< on May 17, 2018 12:37:42 GMT -5
While the list is fairly representative, a lot depends on league. I used to run a gep or cossack in gold and take out at least 3 grifs before retiring. Even though it's really not one of my go-to's, Galahad is a tough cookie in lower leagues. Past diamond, the list is pretty accurate though, except I would switch galahad and garath...Maybe drop natasha to B league because it's super situational depending on build; not tanky enough for a brawler yet just enough firepower and mobility for a sniper. Butch could be relegated to tier C as it excells at sniping, but is a glass cannon for any other role. Anyway, good list.
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Post by RightOn on May 17, 2018 13:21:22 GMT -5
S+ Tier: These are undeniably the most powerful bots in the game. Extremely difficult and sometimes impossible to fight against without premium gear
Spectre
S Tier: These bots are not as strong as those in S+, but with a bit of extra skill, they can be just as menacing
Bulgasari Haechi
A Tier: These bots are usually very powerful, but sometimes have difficulty competing against higher tiered bots. With the right weapons sets and specific playstyles, these bots can be almost as dangerous as those in tier S
Inquisitor Kumiho Strider Pursuer Raven Rogatka Hover
B Tier: These bots are overall well balanced and still have a range of roles where they perform well, though those in the higher tiers are oftentimes much better for that role.
Fury Butch Rhino Lancelot Mercury Hellburner Carnage Griffin
C Tier: These are weaker bots that need a lot of careful gameplay and skill to be used effectively. Their roles are very niche, though they can still make a difference on the battlefield when used in the correct situations
Galahad Natasha Fujin Doc Jesse Golem Leo Raijin
D Tier: These bots are very vulnerable and have many situations where they are always at a disadvantage. They usually have almost no roles where they can perform at a standard level, but still in uncommon cases, can be decent support to teammates
Gepard Vityaz Stalker Gareth Boa Patton
F Tier: These bots have absolutely no place in this meta and are completely useless. Only the most skilled of players can make some use out of these
Destrier Schutze Cossack
Revised and finalized with my stamp of approval lol
4got jess
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Post by windcaster on May 17, 2018 13:40:11 GMT -5
EDIT: On 2nd examination of your list.. I'd say it's ok.
I was thinking about stalker being in C but I think your explanation is pretty spot on... it's not a bot you can just hop in you have to get use to being fragile.
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Post by krebby on May 17, 2018 14:13:14 GMT -5
I think your list is, in general, reasonable. Thus, I voted "ok."
I rate some bots higher than you (like the Pursuer, Raven, and Hover); and others lower (like the Natasha and Rhino). But even where I disagree, I can see why you placed bots where you did.
I think the next logical step is to think about weapons. One of the reasons that the Fury remains a meta fixture is because it packs 3 Heavy slots and midrange heavy weapons are VERY strong right now. Even mid-tier bots can perform reasonably well if they are equipped with top-notch midrange weapons.
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Post by foxypotato on May 17, 2018 14:30:27 GMT -5
Raijin is not B tier.
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Post by endyu on May 17, 2018 15:23:17 GMT -5
Fury with Dragoons should be S.
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 17, 2018 15:48:30 GMT -5
Rogatka is better than Fury, Natasha, rhino, and Butch. Nearly equal to Kumiho imo. The 4 I mentioned belong in B tier. whne a rog can carry 3 dragoons or 3 flux it can be be better than the fury. Til then it's not even close to being in the same league as a fury. Hell, even a zeus fury is better than a rog these days.
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Post by LEGEND on May 17, 2018 17:30:31 GMT -5
Rearranged according to my perception and based on your tier descriptions.
S+: Spectre, Haechi, Bulgasari, Inquisitor S: Fury, Kumiho, Pursuer (?) A: Lancelot, Mercury (?), Raven (?) B: Griffin, Hover, Rogatka, Natasha, Carnage, Strider (?)
C: Butch, Doc, Rhino, Fujin, Raijin, Leo, Galahad, Hellburner (?) D: Stalker, Jesse, Gareth, Gepard, Cossack, Boa, Golem, Patton, Vityaz
F: Destrier, Schutze
Those with question marks are bots that I can only speculate what their performance will be, when they become more common.
Spot on imho. Mostly, but take Haechi down to S tier and Raijin and Fujin up to A tier; they are actually very powerful bots if played corrrectly. Otherwise, perfect list.
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Post by LEGEND on May 17, 2018 17:32:36 GMT -5
Fury with Dragoons should be S. S+ IMO.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on May 17, 2018 18:19:17 GMT -5
Mostly, but take Haechi down to S tier and Raijin and Fujin up to A tier; they are actually very powerful bots if played corrrectly. Otherwise, perfect list. Haechi is still a top level bot. The ancile and dash is a hefty combination. Spiders might still play in the lower leagues but are just silver in the upper meta. It's been a looong time since either gave me any trouble.
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Post by leavemealone on May 17, 2018 18:28:25 GMT -5
I was bored and had nothing to do, so I decided to make a tier list to reflect the overall usefulness of all the bots. So brace yourselves, this may get ugly. S+ Tier: These are undeniably the most powerful bots in the game. Extremely difficult and sometimes impossible to fight against without premium gear S Tier: These bots are not as strong as those in S+, but with a bit of extra skill, they can be just as menacing A Tier: These bots are usually very powerful, but sometimes have difficulty competing against higher tiered bots. With the right weapons sets and specific playstyles, these bots can be almost as dangerous as those in tier S - Kumiho
- Strider
- Lancelot
- Fury
- Natasha
- Rhino
- Butch
B Tier: These bots are overall well balanced and still have a range of roles where they perform well, though those in the higher tiers are oftentimes much better for that role. - Raijin
- Mercury
- Rogatka
- Hover
- Pursuer
- Raven
- Hellburner
- Leo
- Doc
- Carnage
C Tier: These are weaker bots that need a lot of careful gameplay and skill to be used effectively. Their roles are very niche, though they can still make a difference on the battlefield when used in the correct situations - Griffin
- Fujin
- Stalker
- Jesse
- Patton
- Gareth
- Golem
- Boa
D Tier: These bots are very vulnerable and have many situations where they are always at a disadvantage. They usually have almost no roles where they can perform at a standard level, but still in uncommon cases, can be decent support to teammates - Gepard
- Cossack
- Galahad
- Vityaz
F Tier: These bots have absolutely no place in this meta and are completely useless. Only the most skilled of players can make some use out of these bots. $+ tier - player with the most deep pocket come out on top, they are difficult to compete these player since they have the latest premium which give them huge advantage over none paying player's
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Post by blueb4sunrise1 on May 17, 2018 18:49:46 GMT -5
These are fun lists. I think that it is a fairly subjective topic though, for example my list would place Galahad and Carnage higher than most and religate Lance and Kumi a fair bit, plus piloting style/skill and league position are all game changers.
There do however seem to be some clear trends emerging: Spectre, quizzy and Dashes are featuring in the S+ and S tiers, Destrier and Schutz in F tier. And somehwere inbetween there is everything else with most classic bots towards the bottom and component or special ability robots nearer the upper part.
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