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Post by DiscountDalek on May 7, 2018 20:56:58 GMT -5
Last time bot swap really cost me, I decided to start using a Griffin with Gusts and Storms.
Hadn’t even got my Galahad up to par, then I dropped in another bot with levels less than ten.
My hangar is kind of weaker than I usually see in Expert League, but I have kind of a strategy building (Shields are a major part of it with my Raijin, Lancelot and Galahad). Once the gusts and storms are higher level I an going to equip them on the Galahad and try replacing the Griffin with a Leo, equipped with Tempest (low level, ATM) and Aphids.
Alternatively, I do have two Leos and a Butch. I could go full heavies. (Butch needs guns, though)
My Kumiho is my beacon runner with orkans. Probably my best bot, but I get a lot more kills out of the others.
Does this Griffin to Leo swap sound like a downgrade to you fellows?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 21:20:40 GMT -5
I run 2 griffins, punisher / molot. Seem to get a lot of mileage out of the punisher one, also great for tag teaming the ancile guys; you strip them down, your buddy kills it.
You can use punisher as a sneak attack -kill-the-weak-guy-, which can be fun.
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Post by windcaster on May 7, 2018 21:48:05 GMT -5
I've never been a great fan of Griff.. I mean it's all the makings of a good bot I could just never warm up to it.
I've had surprisingly good results on occasion, especially in support roles if no ones targeting me, But i'd say more often than not It comes up short.
Granted I never upgraded mine and the punishers are only 9/8 but I don't really remember it ever "shining"
That's probably more my fault than the bots, Leo on the other hand in a Thunder/Pinata/Aphid setup.. This bot is a work horse and a lot more reliable for me.. sometimes I can mow thru 2-3 people taking minimal damage.. but even on bad runs it's still a beast up close.
I have plans to replace my Leo down the road but I won't ever scrap it.. It's been good to me.
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Post by DiscountDalek on May 7, 2018 21:51:41 GMT -5
Can’t believe you guys are rocking punishers in diamond league.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 21:57:21 GMT -5
Can’t believe you guys are rocking punishers in diamond league. Expert, just haven't updated the profile. With the number of anciles around, I find it handy. I keep an eye out for an Orkan guy and open up on the ancile as he's going into range. By the time he fires, the ancile is mostly gone. It's also good for stripping the ancile if they go into hiding, just aim off to the left/right of the hit box and they light up again. I've watched people try to keep changing position in their cover to avoid the ancile being hit. Carrier is the funniest one; they hide in the tunnel, you position yourself above them and fire down, hitting the ancile, while your buddies go in to kill them. The panicked 'run left and right' is fun to watch. |
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Post by windcaster on May 7, 2018 21:58:23 GMT -5
If it wasn't for the fact Im gonna replace the Griff and don't have another bot that setup would go well on I'd be maxing them out.. Kinda wonder what a Spec leadhose would be like but It's not a good setup for that bot.. Lead hose needs to be able to take hits. It's actually a LOT of fun to play a lead hose, They don't have the burst damage that a lot of other weapons do.. but they do steady damage and if it wasn't for the fact someones shooting back at you.. they melt people at close range where spread isn't an issue. Like runamok said, They will take down a ancile like no ones business.. and at a safe range. Bullet hose is a good support setup.. just get mowed down by things like orks @300 and thunders at spitting distance. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 22:06:50 GMT -5
If it wasn't for the fact Im gonna replace the Griff and don't have another bot that setup would go well on I'd be maxing them out.. Kinda wonder what a Spec leadhose would be like but It's not a good setup for that bot.. Lead hose needs to be able to take hits. It's actually a LOT of fun to play a lead hose, They don't have the burst damage that a lot of other weapons do.. but they do steady damage and if it wasn't for the fact someones shooting back at you.. they melt people at close range where spread isn't an issue. Like runamok said, They will take down a ancile like no ones business.. and at a safe range. Bullet hose is a good support setup.. just get mowed down by things like orks @300 and thunders at spitting distance. If, in the next 2 - 4 years, I get a Raven, I'd most likely run it as a Punisher one. Pretty sure it's my favourite weapon and handy too. |
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on May 7, 2018 22:42:31 GMT -5
We've been calling the Griff with punishers -"The lead hose." Since the buff they've been working well.
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Post by DiscountDalek on May 7, 2018 23:10:48 GMT -5
We've been calling the Griff with punishers -"The lead hose." Since the buff they've been working well. Been selling loads of punishers since I ditched my Cossack. Even then I preferred the Tulumba. The range of it is nice to have, splash at 500 meters has allowed me to wreck some well placed opponents, I just aim to the side of their cover. Most of the time they just stay put, getting gradually ripped to pieces. |
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Post by inhumanus on May 7, 2018 23:28:40 GMT -5
You seem comfortable with the Leo/Lance style combat up close; so until you can grab a Lance....try a Golem. I know it's days are past, but you can MK2 a Golem in a very short time and with a very small amount of silver. Over 200k HP as well as more speed than a Leo, uses only 3 slots. Shotgun Golem melts faces and can corner shoot, retreat shoot with the best at that level.
For your future, the Galahad is a fine bot, solid (of course) against plasma, rewards good piloting. I field as many as 4 Griffin's, but they have a glass chin. Besides punishers and RDB, I had a good amount of success with Scourge/Gekko, used it as a mid range Kumiho Hunter, allowing me to take up to 70% health off agressive Kumi pilots as they close in and I jump away ... allowing the Scourges to eat them for breakfast.
For your play style; I would think to save for a Bulgasari. Shield, dash, big load out...
Best of luck.
ColecoKidd
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Post by DiscountDalek on May 7, 2018 23:38:26 GMT -5
You seem comfortable with the Leo/Lance style combat up close; so until you can grab a Lance....try a Golem. I know it's days are past, but you can MK2 a Golem in a very short time and with a very small amount of silver. Over 200k HP as well as more speed than a Leo, uses only 3 slots. Shotgun Golem melts faces and can corner shoot, retreat shoot with the best at that level. For your future, the Galahad is a fine bot, solid (of course) against plasma, rewards good piloting. I field as many as 4 Griffin's, but they have a glass chin. Besides punishers and RDB, I had a good amount of success with Scourge/Gekko, used it as a mid range Kumiho Hunter, allowing me to take up to 70% health off agressive Kumi pilots as they close in and I jump away ... allowing the Scourges to eat them for breakfast. For your play style; I would think to save for a Bulgasari. Shield, dash, big load out... Best of luck. ColecoKidd Android I used to use a Golem. I did like having all three weapon slots varied. Bulgasari would fantastic, hoping to win one, someday. That will be the follow up to the Leo. |
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Post by Stapleton on May 8, 2018 4:36:13 GMT -5
Hi DiscountDalek, I used a lance with punisher Ts and a tempest for a long time, its a big part of what got me into expert league. Now though, I don't use them. As you have no doubt found being in Expert league yourself, you start getting matched against anything up to Champ standard, and they don't like to stand in the open quite so much as your typical diamond and gold players. It gets less and less damage the more you go up, although can still be a bot-wrecker if you do manage to catch them in the open. I have put an RDB griff back into my hangar as well and it's already earning its keep. Your rocketeering plans are sound. Fury with trip zeuses (or trip dragoons if you get the opportunity) will really make the reds cry as they try to chase you down. Brawling-wise, I think its been done to death but bulg-scourge is nasty to play against, and pretty much anything on a haechi or spectre likewise. If you did manage to get the inquisitor with the drops last month, its worth will probably be obvious to you by now. Use orkans/tarans/scourges and something with plenty of punch up close. |
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Post by DiscountDalek on May 8, 2018 5:05:05 GMT -5
Hi DiscountDalek , I used a lance with punisher Ts and a tempest for a long time, its a big part of what got me into expert league. Now though, I don't use them. As you have no doubt found being in Expert league yourself, you start getting matched against anything up to Champ standard, and they don't like to stand in the open quite so much as your typical diamond and gold players. It gets less and less damage the more you go up, although can still be a bot-wrecker if you do manage to catch them in the open. I have put an RDB griff back into my hangar as well and it's already earning its keep. Your rocketeering plans are sound. Fury with trip zeuses (or trip dragoons if you get the opportunity) will really make the reds cry as they try to chase you down. Brawling-wise, I think its been done to death but bulg-scourge is nasty to play against, and pretty much anything on a haechi or spectre likewise. If you did manage to get the inquisitor with the drops last month, its worth will probably be obvious to you by now. Use orkans/tarans/scourges and something with plenty of punch up close. A fair amount of components were acquired for it with the drops, but not much more than half the required amount. My brawling is mostly done with the Ancilot. It’s Tarans are not cutting it, though. |
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Post by Stapleton on May 8, 2018 5:23:01 GMT -5
Hi DiscountDalek , I used a lance with punisher Ts and a tempest for a long time, its a big part of what got me into expert league. Now though, I don't use them. As you have no doubt found being in Expert league yourself, you start getting matched against anything up to Champ standard, and they don't like to stand in the open quite so much as your typical diamond and gold players. It gets less and less damage the more you go up, although can still be a bot-wrecker if you do manage to catch them in the open. I have put an RDB griff back into my hangar as well and it's already earning its keep. Your rocketeering plans are sound. Fury with trip zeuses (or trip dragoons if you get the opportunity) will really make the reds cry as they try to chase you down. Brawling-wise, I think its been done to death but bulg-scourge is nasty to play against, and pretty much anything on a haechi or spectre likewise. If you did manage to get the inquisitor with the drops last month, its worth will probably be obvious to you by now. Use orkans/tarans/scourges and something with plenty of punch up close. A fair amount of components were acquired for it with the drops, but not much more than half the required amount. My brawling is mostly done with the Ancilot. It’s Tarans are not cutting it, though. Having been meta for so long, they seem to be struggling to cope with the era of the scourge. If you havent already, get yourself a couple of those. If you are good with your brawling bots, the griffin will always outshine the leo in my opinion as a mid ranger, you can even put the scourges on it for range flexibility. |
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Post by ganjaspartan on May 30, 2018 12:23:27 GMT -5
I run a thunder gust leo (sometimes I switch out the thunder with a Redeemer) all lvl 10 and in close combat maps I just mow everything over. The Leo's higher HP allows you to go to to toe with a haechi loaded with orkans and 50% of the time you will get the kill. It's also IMO one of the best 1st spawn bots for FFA when everyone is spawned close together so you start out with an advantage.
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Post by WattTron on Jan 8, 2019 5:47:52 GMT -5
As I see your list of robots there, you will have to phase them all out if you want to make it to the next few levels after that.
Those robots get destroyed easily. I get really happy when I see a defenseless griffin or a fat leo lolling about. I see silver falling out
of their slow and unprotected hides. It seems that most successful stables have a few stealth-bots trolling about as well.
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Post by moody on Feb 3, 2019 19:52:41 GMT -5
You sound like you are swapping between diamond level bots without really having a path forward.
My opinion. Stick with what you have and start working towards an end game hangar. Put your resources towards bots like the mercury, bulwark, mender, fury and ares and weapons like the ember, halo, scourge and trident. It will take a while but your resources are being wasted at the moment.
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