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Post by Stapleton on Jan 16, 2018 13:07:27 GMT -5
Im struggling here. I sacrificed a good deal of WSP and then AG getting a storm up and running (byproduct of going for hover initially but obviously comes much more quickly). Upgraded it to lvl 7 in keeping with most of the rest of my hangar at the moment but can't find a natural fit for it. I just don't feel like i'm hurting anyone with my puny little blue gun.
Played a few games with it and about the best use i have found so far was a thunderstorm boa.
I only have one at the moment, I am still after a hover anyway so probably will end up with another one but not sure if its worth the AG to bring it up to level.
Are there any Storm users out there who could offer advice? Any good loudouts/bots/light at the end of the tunnel?
Stapleton
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 16, 2018 13:21:23 GMT -5
My Storms are at level 8. I didn't really see good damage until I had 2 Storms. Devastating damage with 3. Good damage means I can see good sized chunks of health being chewed up with every blast. Devastating means I can take out a full health bot before I run out of ammo. Mind you, I have to get very close. How close? Close enough to smell the machine oil!
With only 1 Storm, you're pretty much stuck for now. If you had a Gust, you could do a Shotgun Golem or a Shotgun Gareth.
I've shelved my Storms until I can get another dash bot, preferably a Haechi, but I have more Bulgasari components. The thing with shotgun types of weapons is that you really need a bot that can close to point blank range FAST. That's why Thunder Carnages are so deadly. A Gust armed Stalker is pretty darned deadly too. A Gareth has the potential of getting in close as long as it doesn't run into rockets. Ditto with a Galahad. A Shotgun Hover ambushed me from above once. I didn't even get a shot off cause I was so focused on my target. So, if you have another Storm by the time you get a Hover (like me), you might want to consider putting them on the Hover. Gusts are ridiculously easy to get. Or you can slap a decent level Punisher on the top spot. Or a Pinata for that bursty goodness.
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Post by ironstar on Jan 16, 2018 13:41:13 GMT -5
My kid runs a storm/mag Gary in upper gold. Storm is lvl 8 and pretty devastating up close. You must be close enough to circle the enemy bot
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Post by Stapleton on Jan 16, 2018 14:06:20 GMT -5
My Storms are at level 8. I didn't really see good damage until I had 2 Storms. Devastating damage with 3. Good damage means I can see good sized chunks of health being chewed up with every blast. Devastating means I can take out a full health bot before I run out of ammo. Mind you, I have to get very close. How close? Close enough to smell the machine oil! With only 1 Storm, you're pretty much stuck for now. If you had a Gust, you could do a Shotgun Golem or a Shotgun Gareth. I've shelved my Storms until I can get another dash bot, preferably a Haechi, but I have more Bulgasari components. The thing with shotgun types of weapons is that you really need a bot that can close to point blank range FAST. That's why Thunder Carnages are so deadly. A Gust armed Stalker is pretty darned deadly too. A Gareth has the potential of getting in close as long as it doesn't run into rockets. Ditto with a Galahad. A Shotgun Hover ambushed me from above once. I didn't even get a shot off cause I was so focused on my target. So, if you have another Storm by the time you get a Hover (like me), you might want to consider putting them on the Hover. Gusts are ridiculously easy to get. Or you can slap a decent level Punisher on the top spot. Or a Pinata for that bursty goodness. Thank you Koalabear. You have much wisdom. I shall do as you say and give 2 storms a chance. My patience/bank account wont permit me to get a dash bot, unless it comes in the superchest I am SLOWLY working towards at the moment, but i'll bear it in mind for my hypothetical future hover. I cant pretend to be pleased with your reference to bursty goodness though. You made me do a laugh-snort on the train, breaking the strict code of silence my fellow commuters and I have been observing for months now. People might start thinking I'm "fun" now. They might start...talking...to me. DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE KOALABEAR? DO YOU???
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Post by Stapleton on Jan 16, 2018 14:08:01 GMT -5
My kid runs a storm/mag Gary in upper gold. Storm is lvl 8 and pretty devastating up close. You must be close enough to circle the enemy bot Thank you Ironstar. I have a storm, a magnum and a gary, so i might just give this a go!
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 16, 2018 14:34:09 GMT -5
Stapleton, a little off topic, but I do love my DB Hover. I like it better than a DB Griffin in many respects. Sure, I can't melt a bot with a full burst the way I can with a DB Griffin, but I can do major damage in a single pass and then get to cover. I actually have more fun with my Hover than I do with the Bulgasari that I won last year. As for the Gareth, I would consider focusing some WSP on a Gust and run a full shotgun Gareth.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jan 16, 2018 15:27:49 GMT -5
A Golem (level 9 or higher for maximum speed) is a workable platform for a Storm, paired with a Thunder and a Gust (or lacking a Gust, with a Punisher or Magnum). You have to be careful where you deploy, since you're a bit too squishy to cross large open areas safely, but on maps with plenty of cover it can be devastating.
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Post by Stapleton on Jan 16, 2018 15:47:16 GMT -5
A Golem (level 9 or higher for maximum speed) is a workable platform for a Storm, paired with a Thunder and a Gust (or lacking a Gust, with a Punisher or Magnum). You have to be careful where you deploy, since you're a bit too squishy to cross large open areas safely, but on maps with plenty of cover it can be devastating. Worth a look, thank you kamikazejohnson. All signs are pointing to me needing to couple it up with a gust it would seem. Stapleton.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 15:54:48 GMT -5
I love the storm, and have three at level 11 that I tried running on dash bots. Shotguns are fun. But they are not really that effective unless you are really good at hugging the reds.
Orkan will do everything storm can do from 300m out. And Tarans out damage storm at 350m. And storm does little damage to anything but anciles beyond 350m.
Its a fun build. Who doesn't want to play this game with three mossbergs strapped up to a giant robot. But unfortunately, it takes a lot more work to use them well than it does to just hit the orange orkan button on a DB build.
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Post by hyderier on Jan 16, 2018 16:22:35 GMT -5
I took 2 Storms to level 9. It's totally meh. Way way too short range (100 meters is good...).
Don't get more of them for now. Keep the components, it may become possible to exchange them to different types, or Storm may get buffed (like, just less spread) and you will then want more. Storm is just not worth the effort. This also makes Hover much more expensive btw, when the Storm components that come with it aren't really very much value.
If you want to play with the one you have, then that Boa sounds like a perfect bot for it, it has the HP and speed so you may find yourself at 100m often enough to make it worth it. But then it needs a few levels more. So if you like to pilot the Thunder-Storm Boa, it won't be a bad setup to upgrade a bit. Just remember, you have to get close... And only do it if you like it... And if you do like it, then at some point in future you may consider Storms on a P2W component bot.
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Post by endyu on Jan 16, 2018 16:56:55 GMT -5
Without dashes, the only bot I can think of that would be pretty good with storms is a Doc with Storms/Orkans.
Storms to take down Anciles, Orkans to finish them. Or, storms for more sustained damage after your Orkans are depleted.
Docs have the run speed to be effective with them and they have decent HP now.
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Post by blueb4sunrise1 on Jan 16, 2018 17:49:26 GMT -5
Yep. I'm saving components for a Hover and I reckon I'll have at least 2 storms by the time. I boosted the first one to level 6 and realised it needs to be point blank do do good. But like some of you I have shelved for now, I'm gonna bring it back out if I ever get my hands on a dash bot.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Jan 16, 2018 18:20:16 GMT -5
I'd second using it on a Gary (then getting a gust when you can). Storms and gusts work well on highly mobile bots. Gary has mobility and a shield allowing him to close and still be tough enough to dish out damage. Theyre great against energy load outs. I've dispatched bots as big as a distracted bulgasari. Storms and gust are also good on the hover and griffin. Ive also seen rogs used to good effect as well but have yet to try.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Jan 16, 2018 18:36:02 GMT -5
Once i tried 2 level 6 storm on kumiho its really deadly on 1v1 its good in 2v1 it dies instantly on 3v1 even carnages (king of shotgun) didnt stand a change But orkans are better especially on kumiho
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Post by freerιde on Jan 16, 2018 18:40:57 GMT -5
I leveled 2 storms to 10 and haven’t found a use for them yet. Tried them on an inquisitor, lance and Heichi and still prefer orks.
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Post by inesb on Jan 17, 2018 6:28:35 GMT -5
I´m in the same boat, I have two Storm but I don´t know on which bot I could use them. My thoughts were Lancelot, with a Thunder on top, or Rhino, with two Magnums. I´m going to test both. Unfortunaly my Storms are not leveled up very high yet, so this experiment will take some time.
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Post by eco on Jan 17, 2018 6:44:16 GMT -5
Storm are only effective at high level 10 up and only very near range less 200m you need to put them on a fast bot (maybe stealth bot) to be able to get in close range quickly
once you are there you rip appart your opponent with a few shots (does not matter what lance, bulg, fury etc.). Heach can quickly dash into distance though.
Check out recent youtube videos of adrian and manni gaming (he has a impressive one with stalker gust)
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Jan 17, 2018 6:47:36 GMT -5
Im struggling here. I sacrificed a good deal of WSP and then AG getting a storm up and running (byproduct of going for hover initially but obviously comes much more quickly). Upgraded it to lvl 7 in keeping with most of the rest of my hangar at the moment but can't find a natural fit for it. I just don't feel like i'm hurting anyone with my puny little blue gun. Played a few games with it and about the best use i have found so far was a thunderstorm boa. I only have one at the moment, I am still after a hover anyway so probably will end up with another one but not sure if its worth the AG to bring it up to level. Are there any Storm users out there who could offer advice? Any good loudouts/bots/light at the end of the tunnel? Stapleton Wish you could gift items to friends.. I have like 8 of the pea shooters. They blow dude. Though my gust /storm Griffin setup is pretty bad 「bum-bum」 at 9/9
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Post by schlongb on Jan 17, 2018 13:37:28 GMT -5
I run 2 lvl 10 Storms on a Rogatka. I thoroughly enjoy the bot with them. Up close it really does some damage. I can get in and jump around and usually kill whoever I am up against on a 1v1. Especially against a red with Orkans who tend to lose 3/4 of the salvo hitting nothing but air after I jump.
They also work good from over 400 yards or so to slowly strip away Ancile. I keep just out of Taran/Orkan reach and piss off reds, usually Ancilots. Gets the Ancile low so other blues can kill them. Works well in a dogfight.
Working on a 3rd so I can run a shotty Golem. it is my re-spawn in BR bot.
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Post by Sub Z on Jan 17, 2018 15:03:29 GMT -5
Im struggling here. I sacrificed a good deal of WSP and then AG getting a storm up and running (byproduct of going for hover initially but obviously comes much more quickly). Upgraded it to lvl 7 in keeping with most of the rest of my hangar at the moment but can't find a natural fit for it. I just don't feel like i'm hurting anyone with my puny little blue gun. Played a few games with it and about the best use i have found so far was a thunderstorm boa. I only have one at the moment, I am still after a hover anyway so probably will end up with another one but not sure if its worth the AG to bring it up to level. Are there any Storm users out there who could offer advice? Any good loudouts/bots/light at the end of the tunnel? Stapleton I have 3 Storms and 3 Gusts in iOS Masters/Champ league. I tested all the Gust, Storm, and Thunder combo on a Golem in Custom mode against light, medium, and heavy bots. Suggest you test these weapons also, as I found that you really need to find for yourself the true effective distances of these weapons against each size bot. I found that these weapons effective only at <125m against standing heavies and almost useless against moving lights or dashing bots unless you are <75m. Above 125m, even slight movement by the target or lag will cause significant misses. Since triple Orkan setups are used the most in my league, I could not find any setup using Storm/Gust weapons that could out duel consistently any triple orkan setup at under 300m. Unfortunately, I've not found any reason to displace Orkans or even Punishers for Storm/Gusts. Perhaps when the Strider gets here the Gust will come out. Maybe quad Storms on a Specter, though I can't see using Storms over Shocktrains on a Specter. Overall, I just don't think the Storm/Gust make sense considering what weapons are already out there.
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