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Post by f4dca on Dec 11, 2017 10:46:21 GMT -5
so im thinking about upgrading my golem to mk2. but i also can buy an orkan.
i can't decide what to do. help me please
(i only have 1180Au)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 13:25:33 GMT -5
so im thinking about upgrading my golem to mk2. but i also can buy an orkan. i can't decide what to do. help me please (i only have 1180Au) Depends on what you have. Do you have your 5th slot? 4th slot? If you don't have your 4th slot then it's a no brainer, get it. Post what you already have, that should help give us an idea of what you need. Also what do you normally run? If you run a support/sniper hangar then orkans aren't important for you right away. In the end it's your decision. Your fun, your decision. |
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Post by f4dca on Dec 11, 2017 17:47:09 GMT -5
so im thinking about upgrading my golem to mk2. but i also can buy an orkan. i can't decide what to do. help me please (i only have 1180Au) Depends on what you have. Do you have your 5th slot? 4th slot? If you don't have your 4th slot then it's a no brainer, get it. Post what you already have, that should help give us an idea of what you need. Also what do you normally run? If you run a support/sniper hangar then orkans aren't important for you right away. In the end it's your decision. Your fun, your decision. i only have 4 slots my bots are 7 Gareth/Taran/Magnum 7 Carnage/Thunder/Thunder 7 Griffin/Taran²/Magnum² 10 Golem/Punisher T/Punisher/Thunder i switch my golem with my leo/pinata³/thunder when the golem is upgrading. i usually go to close range brawling or knifing. |
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Post by f4dca on Dec 11, 2017 17:55:20 GMT -5
so im thinking about upgrading my golem to mk2. but i also can buy an orkan. i can't decide what to do. help me please (i only have 1180Au) Depends on what you have. Do you have your 5th slot? 4th slot? If you don't have your 4th slot then it's a no brainer, get it. Post what you already have, that should help give us an idea of what you need. Also what do you normally run? If you run a support/sniper hangar then orkans aren't important for you right away. In the end it's your decision. Your fun, your decision. and I'm in Silver 2 League |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 18:41:35 GMT -5
Assuming your bot levels and weapon levels are the same, I would definitely get the orkans. Get a rhino as your next WSP bot, and I would replace the gareth with the rhino, because the Rhino is a great beacon capper with great firepower. When you get it, I would go for the hellfire setup (orkans and magnums) because of its ability to do a bit of damage to bots with energy shields, and deal damage to shielded bots.
You can grind for both at the same time (rhino takes 28 days to get enough WSP for), and you probably already have enough gold for your 1st orkan. Assuming you earn 70 gold daily (60 from missions, 10 from battle rewards) you can have that 2nd orkan in about 17 days (give or take a couple gold). How quick you can get your rhino depends on how much WSP you have.
Also, I would even out the bot levels in your hangar. Don't get me wrong, Golem MKII is a great thing, but once you MKII it you have to get it back up again. I wouldn't recommend a MKII unless all your bots are/are close to level 11 or 12, and you have something to replace it with while it is upgrading up again.
Thunder/pinata leo works, but it has a high burst damage and then goes to baby hits. I would suggest thunder punisher leo, as it can dish out serious damage from <300 m and it can sustain even fire for longer.
What levels are your weapons? If they are the same as your bot level then do what i said. If not, then focus on upgrading them before you get the orkan. It is Ideal to have your weapon levels 1-2 levels above your bot level, but I like to run even level bots.
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 11, 2017 21:01:53 GMT -5
Assuming your bot levels and weapon levels are the same, I would definitely get the orkans. Get a rhino as your next WSP bot, and I would replace the gareth with the rhino, because the Rhino is a great beacon capper with great firepower. +1 on that. After the Orkans, get the 5th slot, even though it takes some time to grind for the AU. Or 5th slot and then Orkans. (There are dozens of threads on that decision. Both sides have fans.) A Mk2 Golem is nice, but it would probably push you up to leagues where you need rockets, and your hangar is not ready for that. Also, I would even out the bot levels in your hangar. Don't get me wrong, Golem MKII is a great thing, but once you MKII it you have to get it back up again. I wouldn't recommend a MKII unless all your bots are/are close to level 11 or 12, and you have something to replace it with while it is upgrading up again. No. The whole point of the Mk2 Golem is that it can compete with some popular Mk1 builds. You can compare a Mk2 level 12 Golem with maybe a Mk1 level 10 Lancelot. It is cheap to get, but no longer feasible when the hangar approaches level 12 (Mk1). But it could be a very good robot for half a year or so. But instead of the Golem, have a look at the Natasha, which is also cheap to upgrade to level 12 Mk2 but more viable in higher leagues. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 22:09:35 GMT -5
Assuming your bot levels and weapon levels are the same, I would definitely get the orkans. Get a rhino as your next WSP bot, and I would replace the gareth with the rhino, because the Rhino is a great beacon capper with great firepower. +1 on that. After the Orkans, get the 5th slot, even though it takes some time to grind for the AU. Or 5th slot and then Orkans. (There are dozens of threads on that decision. Both sides have fans.) A Mk2 Golem is nice, but it would probably push you up to leagues where you need rockets, and your hangar is not ready for that. Also, I would even out the bot levels in your hangar. Don't get me wrong, Golem MKII is a great thing, but once you MKII it you have to get it back up again. I wouldn't recommend a MKII unless all your bots are/are close to level 11 or 12, and you have something to replace it with while it is upgrading up again. No. The whole point of the Mk2 Golem is that it can compete with some popular Mk1 builds. You can compare a Mk2 level 12 Golem with maybe a Mk1 level 10 Lancelot. It is cheap to get, but no longer feasible when the hangar approaches level 12 (Mk1). But it could be a very good robot for half a year or so. But instead of the Golem, have a look at the Natasha, which is also cheap to upgrade to level 12 Mk2 but more viable in higher leagues. Hehe, I'm not at the point where I can dish out a lot of info like this. Well, I tried, thanks for pointing out my mistakes! |
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Post by f4dca on Dec 12, 2017 1:53:52 GMT -5
Assuming your bot levels and weapon levels are the same, I would definitely get the orkans. Get a rhino as your next WSP bot, and I would replace the gareth with the rhino, because the Rhino is a great beacon capper with great firepower. When you get it, I would go for the hellfire setup (orkans and magnums) because of its ability to do a bit of damage to bots with energy shields, and deal damage to shielded bots. You can grind for both at the same time (rhino takes 28 days to get enough WSP for), and you probably already have enough gold for your 1st orkan. Assuming you earn 70 gold daily (60 from missions, 10 from battle rewards) you can have that 2nd orkan in about 17 days (give or take a couple gold). How quick you can get your rhino depends on how much WSP you have. Also, I would even out the bot levels in your hangar. Don't get me wrong, Golem MKII is a great thing, but once you MKII it you have to get it back up again. I wouldn't recommend a MKII unless all your bots are/are close to level 11 or 12, and you have something to replace it with while it is upgrading up again. Thunder/pinata leo works, but it has a high burst damage and then goes to baby hits. I would suggest thunder punisher leo, as it can dish out serious damage from <300 m and it can sustain even fire for longer. What levels are your weapons? If they are the same as your bot level then do what i said. If not, then focus on upgrading them before you get the orkan. It is Ideal to have your weapon levels 1-2 levels above your bot level, but I like to run even level bots. my weapons are mostly lvl 5-6 and im using 300WSP daily for a Storm which is already at 7000components |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 7:41:47 GMT -5
Assuming your bot levels and weapon levels are the same, I would definitely get the orkans. Get a rhino as your next WSP bot, and I would replace the gareth with the rhino, because the Rhino is a great beacon capper with great firepower. When you get it, I would go for the hellfire setup (orkans and magnums) because of its ability to do a bit of damage to bots with energy shields, and deal damage to shielded bots. You can grind for both at the same time (rhino takes 28 days to get enough WSP for), and you probably already have enough gold for your 1st orkan. Assuming you earn 70 gold daily (60 from missions, 10 from battle rewards) you can have that 2nd orkan in about 17 days (give or take a couple gold). How quick you can get your rhino depends on how much WSP you have. Also, I would even out the bot levels in your hangar. Don't get me wrong, Golem MKII is a great thing, but once you MKII it you have to get it back up again. I wouldn't recommend a MKII unless all your bots are/are close to level 11 or 12, and you have something to replace it with while it is upgrading up again. Thunder/pinata leo works, but it has a high burst damage and then goes to baby hits. I would suggest thunder punisher leo, as it can dish out serious damage from <300 m and it can sustain even fire for longer. What levels are your weapons? If they are the same as your bot level then do what i said. If not, then focus on upgrading them before you get the orkan. It is Ideal to have your weapon levels 1-2 levels above your bot level, but I like to run even level bots. my weapons are mostly lvl 5-6 and im using 300WSP daily for a Storm which is already at 7000components I think you should stop doing that. Save up all your daily wsp for a rhino, because if you finish the day with like 245 WSP, then it will take you like 2 months to get a rhino. How much WSP do you already have? |
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Post by endyu on Dec 12, 2017 13:23:34 GMT -5
Depends on what you have. Do you have your 5th slot? 4th slot? If you don't have your 4th slot then it's a no brainer, get it. Post what you already have, that should help give us an idea of what you need. Also what do you normally run? If you run a support/sniper hangar then orkans aren't important for you right away. In the end it's your decision. Your fun, your decision. i only have 4 slots my bots are 7 Gareth/Taran/Magnum 7 Carnage/Thunder/Thunder 7 Griffin/Taran²/Magnum² 10 Golem/Punisher T/Punisher/Thunder i switch my golem with my leo/pinata³/thunder when the golem is upgrading. i usually go to close range brawling or knifing. You should think about what you're going to do with the Orkans first. As is, your bots have good weapons and one single orkan won't do much for you. Would you be running Punisher/Orkan/Thunder on your Golem? I would level up your bots and save up for a 5th slot first, then worry about getting a bot to put Orkans on. |
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Post by f4dca on Dec 13, 2017 5:37:36 GMT -5
my weapons are mostly lvl 5-6 and im using 300WSP daily for a Storm which is already at 7000components I think you should stop doing that. Save up all your daily wsp for a rhino, because if you finish the day with like 245 WSP, then it will take you like 2 months to get a rhino. How much WSP do you already have? i have 1500wsp. im like 3days away from storm. after that i will save up. and i have 6k wsp before i purchased a taran (now its on my golem) and i purchased an orkan too. because i just found out that i could get 70gold* everyday with just watching ads and 3 matches. and i need that orkan for my gareth, im tired of that red gareths/galahads with they physical sheilds up. |
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Post by f4dca on Dec 13, 2017 5:42:26 GMT -5
i only have 4 slots my bots are 7 Gareth/Taran/Magnum 7 Carnage/Thunder/Thunder 7 Griffin/Taran²/Magnum² 10 Golem/Punisher T/Punisher/Thunder i switch my golem with my leo/pinata³/thunder when the golem is upgrading. i usually go to close range brawling or knifing. You should think about what you're going to do with the Orkans first. As is, your bots have good weapons and one single orkan won't do much for you. Would you be running Punisher/Orkan/Thunder on your Golem? I would level up your bots and save up for a 5th slot first, then worry about getting a bot to put Orkans on. no, im putting it on gareth |
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Post by f4dca on Dec 13, 2017 6:02:06 GMT -5
now, my current hangar is
7Gareth/Magnum/Orkan
7Carnage/Thunder x2
7Griffin/Taran x2/Magnum x2
10Golem/Thunder/Storm/Punisher
i switch golem with when its upgrading
Leo/Thunder/Punisher x3
Boa/Thunder/Taran
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Post by AzureAura on Dec 13, 2017 7:04:42 GMT -5
I would stick 3 pinatas on that leo instead of punishers.
They can pierce physical shields and make for a great brawling bot. You could use magnums but they can't do as much damage as pinatas can in a short time span. But at least they pierce energy shields.
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Post by endyu on Dec 13, 2017 11:37:31 GMT -5
now, my current hangar is 7Gareth/Magnum/Orkan 7Carnage/Thunder x2 7Griffin/Taran x2/Magnum x2 10Golem/Thunder/Storm/Punisher i switch golem with when its upgrading Leo/Thunder/Punisher x3 Boa/Thunder/Taran How do you like the Gareth with Orkan/Magnum vs Taran/Magnum? |
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Post by f4dca on Dec 13, 2017 17:44:59 GMT -5
now, my current hangar is 7Gareth/Magnum/Orkan 7Carnage/Thunder x2 7Griffin/Taran x2/Magnum x2 10Golem/Thunder/Storm/Punisher i switch golem with when its upgrading Leo/Thunder/Punisher x3 Boa/Thunder/Taran How do you like the Gareth with Orkan/Magnum vs Taran/Magnum? i prefer orkan magnum. because it could pierce any kind of sheild |
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Post by f4dca on Dec 13, 2017 17:46:27 GMT -5
I would stick 3 pinatas on that leo instead of punishers. They can pierce physical shields and make for a great brawling bot. You could use magnums but they can't do as much damage as pinatas can in a short time span. But at least they pierce energy shields. yes, i have done that to my second leo. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 13, 2017 18:00:45 GMT -5
RE: Puns vs Pinatas on the Leo.
6 in 1 hand 1/2 a dozen in the other... I prefer the Punishers on my Leos over the Pinatas... both are more than viable nowadays, and the Punishers actually do well in the 400m range and knock down Anciles all the way out to 500m.
JMO tho.
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Post by WizardSpartan on Dec 13, 2017 18:34:47 GMT -5
General order of buying anything:
1. Slots
2. Weapons
3. Robots
Get that 5th slot ASAP. No matter how the meta swings, 5th slot will always be useful. After 5th slot, buy 1-2 more Orkans (DB Griffin would be a good setup). After that, well, I don’t know. If you enjoy sniping, maybe some Zeuses (good on a Carnage). If you feel your Golem/Leo isn’t pulling its weight, then buy a Lancelot (good starting setup would be Thunder Taran). If you go the Lancelot route, then consider an Ancile to go on it with Tarans. If instead, your Gareth is getting destroyed too much by rockets, then get a Rogatka (good with Tarans or Orkans). Then, probably a few more Orkans because, really, there is no such thing as too many Orkans. In terms of WSP, I agree about the Rhino first. Then, get your number of Tarans up to 6. Tridents have sort of fallen out of favor, but I still unconditionally love my Carnage with 'em. If you plan on getting those Zeuses and want to keep your Thunder Carnage, then get another Carnage. I run the TriCarny and Thunder Carnage, and, while squishy, they have lasted me up through Gold and Diamond Leagues. Nevertheless, just my humble opinion.
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Post by f4dca on Dec 14, 2017 9:11:07 GMT -5
General order of buying anything: 1. Slots 2. Weapons 3. Robots Get that 5th slot ASAP. No matter how the meta swings, 5th slot will always be useful. After 5th slot, buy 1-2 more Orkans (DB Griffin would be a good setup). After that, well, I don’t know. If you enjoy sniping, maybe some Zeuses (good on a Carnage). If you feel your Golem/Leo isn’t pulling its weight, then buy a Lancelot (good starting setup would be Thunder Taran). If you go the Lancelot route, then consider an Ancile to go on it with Tarans. If instead, your Gareth is getting destroyed too much by rockets, then get a Rogatka (good with Tarans or Orkans). Then, probably a few more Orkans because, really, there is no such thing as too many Orkans. In terms of WSP, I agree about the Rhino first. Then, get your number of Tarans up to 6. Tridents have sort of fallen out of favor, but I still unconditionally love my Carnage with 'em. If you plan on getting those Zeuses and want to keep your Thunder Carnage, then get another Carnage. I run the TriCarny and Thunder Carnage, and, while squishy, they have lasted me up through Gold and Diamond Leagues. Nevertheless, just my humble opinion. uhh, i dont have a lot of gold though... i will try to save up. thanks for the tip. |
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Post by Pythraithia on Dec 14, 2017 10:28:00 GMT -5
As many people said before, your gold, your decision. But, if you're willing to take my advice, I highly suggest you don't upgrade your golem until your other bots and weapons are at a minimum of level 9. And, I also suggest you replace your gareth with a 2xorkan + 2xmagnum rhino (I know, it's hard shelve a shiny new gold-bought robot, but it's necessary once you fight better players with higher firepower - then the mobility and shield fade in face of rhinos, rogatkas, and dash robots, as well as high level rocket weapons). for similar beacon-capturing speed, massively increased shield health and bot health, and double the firepower. You can use the rush similar to the gareth's while beacon capping, but make sure to look for flankers and drop the shield in close combat. Raise it against plasma opponents once your orkans are expended, and drop to empty another salvo once reloaded. Your other robots are solid, with heavy anti-energy shield support plasmigriff (my nickname for full plasma griffins), and the two great knife-fighters thunder carny (carnage) and thunder-punisher golem. (Sorry, I typed a lot more than you probably expected in response) And for your gold, save up for two orkans (believe me, the massive firepower is much worthwhile and needed as you advance) and put them on the rhino I mentioned above. Once you bought the 1st orkan, you can still mount it on the gareth with a pinata while you save up for the other orkan and rhino. Otherwise, that's all I have to say! You have my congratulations, if you actually read all of this.
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