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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Dec 10, 2017 12:03:48 GMT -5
Gather ‘round boys and girls. It’s Story time.
I want to get real for a moment. I am not posting this as a moderator but as a player and a person.
I stopped posting on the subject of F2P vs. P2W shortly after the release of components and there was a reason for it other than the fact that we were flogging a dead horse. The reason being, that we don’t know what is going on with someone in real life.
Over the past few months I have seen a lot of posts ridiculing others for the amount of time spent playing and of course, plenty of hate for “Whales”. I can understand why it’s easy to think negatively about both of these, especially the latter.
One of the things I (along with many others) have been accused of is having “no life” for playing too much. Another one is, “being able to spend more money on the game and just not wanting to”. I have seen many others be accused of “spending too much money” because they have “an addiction” or because “they suck”.
These things may be true in some instances, but we can not always assume that they are. Most times we have no way of knowing.
Now I am going to get personal.
When I found this game, I was still pretty fresh out of rehab trying to stay clean for the umpteenth in the past 20 years. I knew this time would be different from all the others because I had literally lost EVERYTHING I had in my life. My friends, family, job, vehicles, house, apartments, even my life as I was clinically dead for 11 minutes. My last drug induced DUI, I woke up doing 55 mph down the sidewalk and thankfully, all I smashed into was a guard rail and some trees and not someone’s family.
I was real bad off. I was a daily user for 20 years. Near the end, I was under the care of pain management and had prescriptions that if I sold them on the street would bring in about $2500 USD a month. But I took & injected them all and ran out in 15 days or so every time and on top of that, I was spending roughly $50-$100 on street drugs and knocking back about a case of beer a day. I knew if I didn’t change, I was going to die, or worse - end up killing someone else.
The reason that I’m telling you this, is that after I got out of rehab, in order to stay clean, I needed something to do instead of what I used to. Something to keep me busy. To keep my mind busy. Through this game, I found it. It worked because I couldn’t think “Ok, two enemies heading toward me. How am I going to handle this?” AND “I want drugs” at the same time.
I’ve been clean for 14 months now and things have gotten much better. I almost never get cravings anymore. But there were times that I didn’t even know how I was going to make it through the next 5 minutes. This is where War Robots has been so instrumental in my life and my sobriety.
I still have bad social anxiety and I much prefer to spend most of my free time alone playing the game than “going out with friends” or something. I do spend a few hours outdoors every day but I play about 4-6 hours a day because that’s what I enjoy and it works.
So you see, maybe it’s not much of a life to someone else but the alternative could be much worse. I could LITERALLY have “no life” if I kept heading down the self destructive path I was on.
And no, I really CAN’T afford to spend more money on the game than a dollar here and there because I have none. Everything I own could fit in a few boxes. As pissed off as I am at Pix, I WOULD spend more money on the game if I could. A lot more. But it wouldn’t be because I switched addictions to “spending money” or because “I need to to compete” cause “I suck”. It would be because aside from it being my preferred source of entertainment, as silly as it sounds, War Robots helped save my life.
My point is that I really don’t take much offense to things people say, especially online. But others might. It just got me thinking, “who are we to judge and make such assumptions” You never know what someone has gone through and why they have chosen to play the game the way they do. Be mindful of that. There may be a good reason for it.
P.S. I want to make it clear that I am not upset in the least. I did not make this post out of resentment or hurt and nothing in particular has happened recently that made me decide to finally post it. It’s just something that’s been on my mind for a while.
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Post by Replicant on Dec 10, 2017 12:14:10 GMT -5
Good on you for taking your life back, and good luck! I've let go of my feelings regarding Pixonic: The frog and the scorpion. I am curious about why people do the things they do though. If people feel like they're getting value for their money, spend away. One of the things I really like about this forum is if what I really want to do is War Robots, and Matchmaker is fritzing, I can come here and engage until the game becomes more appealing.
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Post by inspirace on Dec 10, 2017 12:18:29 GMT -5
I would never point out whether a person does or should "have a life". I myself spend most of the day (and night) in front of a computer (for both work and play), wearing ridiculous-looking anti-blue light goggles. I am also quite introvert, socially uncomfortable and awkward, and depressed and stressed from time to time. Still, I believe everyone deserves and will find his/her own equilibrium among whatever constitute his/her life and, if lucky, find a "happy spot", like an all-level-six-ish hangar sitting in the Gold~Diamond league (hmm maybe not that happy these days, may have to go lower). It's nobody's business to judge, unless it harm someone else (or him/herself).
About those spending a lot of money, I may rejoice and brag when I defeat or play better against them since I consider some of them as a challenge. But I wouldn't blame them unless they tank. The blame should be on Pix who have been introducing unbalanced and poorly conceived bots and weapons with ridiculous price tags.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 10, 2017 12:18:45 GMT -5
I'm floored, bud. Nice to see you're well on the path to a better life. I'm also glad that this game for all the joys and frustrations its given a lot of people, has been a useful vehicle for you. I dont have a story anywhere similar to that which probably accounts for my quick assumptions and even quicker judgement at times. Thanks for setting me straight. Keep at it. And if your'e ever in my part of the world, there's a cold beer and warm camaraderie waiting.
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Post by Kanshou on Dec 10, 2017 12:48:26 GMT -5
Your story sounds rough Robo. I'm glad you made it through
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 10, 2017 13:30:44 GMT -5
That's why the PTB made him a Mod. He's seen a lot, and can keep an open mind to what's going on with the Forum. My hat's off to him.
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Post by NerFB on Dec 10, 2017 14:02:06 GMT -5
Great post, puts it all into context.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Dec 10, 2017 14:09:30 GMT -5
Robotrippin, I can dig where you're coming from in a sense. We all have things in life that we have to struggle with. The lucky ones recognize it and take up the battle fresh every day. Somedays we are more successful than others, but every morning is another chance to do better.
My struggle isn't with drugs, but 「popcorn」. Weird to not want something and crave it at the same time. War Robots helps with that for me. Any time is pend on War Robots is time I could do worse with, right?
Anyway, I think one of our biggest obstacles we face is the idea that we're alone and NOBODY else would understand and that we'd be viewed as freaks if anyone found out. You're not alone, and I appreciate your candor, opening up with us here.
It may be the same for you - the craving is like tinnitus...always there, but sometimes you notice it more. Hang in there man. Better days ahead.
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Post by Poopface on Dec 10, 2017 14:10:20 GMT -5
Meh. He’s just trying to up his karma count. ?
In all seriousness, congratulations. The son of one of my friends at work (and a former employee of mine)!became addicted to pain killers (then heroin) and lost most of what he had as a result. It can truly ruin everything if the right help and right mindsets don’t hit st the same time. I’m glad the needle is pointing in the right direction for you.
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 10, 2017 14:17:48 GMT -5
I’m glad the needle is pointing in the right direction for you. Hey! I'm the punmaster here. Stop trying to steal my thunder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 14:25:41 GMT -5
Wow moderator :O
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 10, 2017 15:09:20 GMT -5
It just got me thinking, “who are we to judge and make such assumptions” You never know what someone has gone through and why they have chosen to play the game the way they do. Be mindful of that. There may be a good reason for it. Quite a story. My life was derailed once pretty badly too (even though it was no addiction), and playing games helped me keep sane back then. So I guess I have an idea what you're going through, I wish you all the best, and hope that you find your way to bounce back. And yes, a lot of hate comes down on other players or whales. To players it may seem that the maxed hangar tanker destroyed their match, but of course Pixo is to blame for that, period. We had a game that was almost perfect a year ago, until Pixo (or presumably mail.ru) decided to squeeze players for whatever they're willing to give.
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Post by Poopface on Dec 10, 2017 15:14:30 GMT -5
I’m glad the needle is pointing in the right direction for you. Hey! I'm the punmaster here. Stop trying to steal my thunder. Honestly, no pun intended.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Dec 10, 2017 16:20:39 GMT -5
It takes guts to open up. I'm glad you are still clean and may you always stay so!
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Dec 10, 2017 17:56:58 GMT -5
Thank you all for the kind and supportive words. What you all have done for me as a community is invaluable and without these forums, I probably would not be still playing the game.
But the OP is only half about me. There are many others who have encountered situations in their lives that impact how much they play and/or how much they spend. We shoul always keep that in mind and try to respect their decisions - even if we don’t agree or like it.
Oh and for the record, I still feel great when I tear up a whale in the game with my Ag bots/weapons too ?. But I try not to make assumptions about why they have spent so much.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Dec 10, 2017 18:08:32 GMT -5
Good for you xXrobotrippinXx. Good post and good foy you. One day at a time,one step in front of the other. Proud of you and glad you turned things around. Keep up the good work.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 18:24:49 GMT -5
Hats off to you for pulling it all together, man! You are a great addition to this forum (this isn't pity-praise BTW, I really mean it) and wish you well for the future!
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Post by mechtout on Dec 10, 2017 21:33:59 GMT -5
Great job op. Puts everything into perspective.
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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 10, 2017 21:42:58 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing. I'm happy you were able to turn things around. Thing about addictions is that it's so very easy to fall back into them. Always be on the lookout!
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Post by AVC on Dec 11, 2017 8:06:28 GMT -5
Great post. And well written to boot. It was the opposite to a block of text. Nice work. It's good to see you have turned it around too. In my time in the Services I have seen many who didn't. And 4-6 hours a day is hardly "get a life" level. Hell, I do at least 3. If it were 12 hours a day, then I'd be saying to get outside a bit. Even if was only to get your eyes checked. Keep up the good work.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 11, 2017 8:17:54 GMT -5
What an incredible story! War Robots has also taken me away from another hobby that costs more and is potentially more destructive. My story isn't nearly has tragic as yours, but it could have been. Luckily for me, I had friends who helped me see the truth before things got too bad. I don't judge the whales. Hey, it's their money and their life, and if they're out of control, I hope they have friends who can help pull them back. Good for you that you were able to pull your life together!
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Post by Alpha on Dec 11, 2017 8:57:33 GMT -5
Great Post and WoW takes guts to open up like that! But more so to keep clean, good on you, keep it up. Coming from a guy who if not for gaming would be probably be a serous alcoholic.
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Post by Domino on Dec 11, 2017 12:38:13 GMT -5
Takes courage to come out and say that, a lot of people have too much pride to admit mistakes.
Making you my hero for the month, you definitely earned it. I decided to quite smoking, took a major flu and video games/tons of gum to distract me enough to get over that first couple weeks of major cravings, nothing compared to the battle you fought through. Look in the mirror and see a stronger person at the end.
I'm glad you opened up to your digital family, proud of you and keep up the good fight!
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Post by arakos on Dec 11, 2017 13:06:50 GMT -5
I'm impressed
Your experience is waaaay more important than anyone's thoughts on "whales", so I'll keep my opinion for myself
Congratulations, I hope life goes better day by day
If you ever come any close to Valencia, Spain, you are invited to the best 「fluffernutter」ing paella of the world
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Post by Loganspawn on Dec 11, 2017 13:26:05 GMT -5
I lost my little brother 5 years ago to Oxy addition. Worst thing in the word was holding my dads hand and having to see the pain in his eyes especially as I have three sons of my own grown now.
I play allot to keep my sanity. At work I am a supervisor with allot of stress so every break and lunch I sneak away and play for relief. Then once I am home the wife is normally at work until late, the kids are grown and gone so its workout time and then play War Robots. I WAS a drinker so I understand the need to distract the mind as it can suck being home alone with a lunatic.....
Thanks for reminding me we are all here for different reasons and to live and let live.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Dec 11, 2017 13:58:14 GMT -5
I hope I'm not one of those who disparage other players because of their choices on how to spend their time (and money). I like to think my issue has been with the game developers that not only allowed, but forced the growing gap between high payers and everyone else (and stupid players who wouldn't recognize a beacon if you bludgeoned them over the head with it). However, this thread will certainly make me a little more aware of the personal nature of my gripe-o-grams in the future and be sure to avoid passing judgment. xXrobotrippinXx, good on you for cleaning up and getting your life back on track. Stay strong.
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Post by slipknot1325 on Dec 11, 2017 14:09:58 GMT -5
Gather ‘round boys and girls. It’s Story time. I want to get real for a moment. I am not posting this as a moderator but as a player and a person. I stopped posting on the subject of F2P vs. P2W shortly after the release of components and there was a reason for it other than the fact that we were flogging a dead horse. The reason being, that we don’t know what is going on with someone in real life. Over the past few months I have seen a lot of posts ridiculing others for the amount of time spent playing and of course, plenty of hate for “Whales”. I can understand why it’s easy to think negatively about both of these, especially the latter. One of the things I (along with many others) have been accused of is having “no life” for playing too much. Another one is, “being able to spend more money on the game and just not wanting to”. I have seen many others be accused of “spending too much money” because they have “an addiction” or because “they suck”. These things may be true in some instances, but we can not always assume that they are. Most times we have no way of knowing. Now I am going to get personal.When I found this game, I was still pretty fresh out of rehab trying to stay clean for the umpteenth in the past 20 years. I knew this time would be different from all the others because I had literally lost EVERYTHING I had in my life. My friends, family, job, vehicles, house, apartments, even my life as I was clinically dead for 11 minutes. My last drug induced DUI, I woke up doing 55 mph down the sidewalk and thankfully, all I smashed into was a guard rail and some trees and not someone’s family. I was real bad off. I was a daily user for 20 years. Near the end, I was under the care of pain management and had prescriptions that if I sold them on the street would bring in about $2500 USD a month. But I took & injected them all and ran out in 15 days or so every time and on top of that, I was spending roughly $50-$100 on street drugs and knocking back about a case of beer a day. I knew if I didn’t change, I was going to die, or worse - end up killing someone else. The reason that I’m telling you this, is that after I got out of rehab, in order to stay clean, I needed something to do instead of what I used to. Something to keep me busy. To keep my mind busy. Through this game, I found it. It worked because I couldn’t think “Ok, two enemies heading toward me. How am I going to handle this?” AND “I want drugs” at the same time. I’ve been clean for 14 months now and things have gotten much better. I almost never get cravings anymore. But there were times that I didn’t even know how I was going to make it through the next 5 minutes. This is where War Robots has been so instrumental in my life and my sobriety. I still have bad social anxiety and I much prefer to spend most of my free time alone playing the game than “going out with friends” or something. I do spend a few hours outdoors every day but I play about 4-6 hours a day because that’s what I enjoy and it works. So you see, maybe it’s not much of a life to someone else but the alternative could be much worse. I could LITERALLY have “no life” if I kept heading down the self destructive path I was on. And no, I really CAN’T afford to spend more money on the game than a dollar here and there because I have none. Everything I own could fit in a few boxes. As pissed off as I am at Pix, I WOULD spend more money on the game if I could. A lot more. But it wouldn’t be because I switched addictions to “spending money” or because “I need to to compete” cause “I suck”. It would be because aside from it being my preferred source of entertainment, as silly as it sounds, War Robots helped save my life. My point is that I really don’t take much offense to things people say, especially online. But others might. It just got me thinking, “who are we to judge and make such assumptions” You never know what someone has gone through and why they have chosen to play the game the way they do. Be mindful of that. There may be a good reason for it. P.S. I want to make it clear that I am not upset in the least. I did not make this post out of resentment or hurt and nothing in particular has happened recently that made me decide to finally post it. It’s just something that’s been on my mind for a while. Good for you bro, quitting pain pills/herion is on of the hardest things I ever had to do. To this day I still go to methadone clinic to help keep me off the hard stuff. I play this game for a lot of the same reasons and can relate where you are coming from. Good luck on your struggle I know for people like us there will always be that temptation to use. The fact that you been clean this long shows how strong you truly are. If you ever need to talk I’m always here to lend an empathetic ear. ?
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Dec 11, 2017 15:04:55 GMT -5
Gather â??round boys and girls. Itâ??s Story time. I want to get real for a moment. I am not posting this as a moderator but as a player and a person. I stopped posting on the subject of F2P vs. P2W shortly after the release of components and there was a reason for it other than the fact that we were flogging a dead horse. The reason being, that we donâ??t know what is going on with someone in real life. Over the past few months I have seen a lot of posts ridiculing others for the amount of time spent playing and of course, plenty of hate for â??Whalesâ?. I can understand why itâ??s easy to think negatively about both of these, especially the latter. One of the things I (along with many others) have been accused of is having â??no lifeâ? for playing too much. Another one is, â??being able to spend more money on the game and just not wanting toâ?. I have seen many others be accused of â??spending too much moneyâ? because they have â??an addictionâ? or because â??they suckâ?. These things may be true in some instances, but we can not always assume that they are. Most times we have no way of knowing. Now I am going to get personal.When I found this game, I was still pretty fresh out of rehab trying to stay clean for the umpteenth in the past 20 years. I knew this time would be different from all the others because I had literally lost EVERYTHING I had in my life. My friends, family, job, vehicles, house, apartments, even my life as I was clinically dead for 11 minutes. My last drug induced DUI, I woke up doing 55 mph down the sidewalk and thankfully, all I smashed into was a guard rail and some trees and not someoneâ??s family. I was real bad off. I was a daily user for 20 years. Near the end, I was under the care of pain management and had prescriptions that if I sold them on the street would bring in about $2500 USD a month. But I took & injected them all and ran out in 15 days or so every time and on top of that, I was spending roughly $50-$100 on street drugs and knocking back about a case of beer a day. I knew if I didnâ??t change, I was going to die, or worse - end up killing someone else. The reason that Iâ??m telling you this, is that after I got out of rehab, in order to stay clean, I needed something to do instead of what I used to. Something to keep me busy. To keep my mind busy. Through this game, I found it. It worked because I couldnâ??t think â??Ok, two enemies heading toward me. How am I going to handle this?â? AND â??I want drugsâ? at the same time. Iâ??ve been clean for 14 months now and things have gotten much better. I almost never get cravings anymore. But there were times that I didnâ??t even know how I was going to make it through the next 5 minutes. This is where War Robots has been so instrumental in my life and my sobriety. I still have bad social anxiety and I much prefer to spend most of my free time alone playing the game than â??going out with friendsâ? or something. I do spend a few hours outdoors every day but I play about 4-6 hours a day because thatâ??s what I enjoy and it works. So you see, maybe itâ??s not much of a life to someone else but the alternative could be much worse. I could LITERALLY have â??no lifeâ? if I kept heading down the self destructive path I was on. And no, I really CANâ??T afford to spend more money on the game than a dollar here and there because I have none. Everything I own could fit in a few boxes. As pissed off as I am at Pix, I WOULD spend more money on the game if I could. A lot more. But it wouldnâ??t be because I switched addictions to â??spending moneyâ? or because â??I need to to competeâ? cause â??I suckâ?. It would be because aside from it being my preferred source of entertainment, as silly as it sounds, War Robots helped save my life. My point is that I really donâ??t take much offense to things people say, especially online. But others might. It just got me thinking, â??who are we to judge and make such assumptionsâ? You never know what someone has gone through and why they have chosen to play the game the way they do. Be mindful of that. There may be a good reason for it. P.S. I want to make it clear that I am not upset in the least. I did not make this post out of resentment or hurt and nothing in particular has happened recently that made me decide to finally post it. Itâ??s just something thatâ??s been on my mind for a while. I lost my best friend 5 years ago to heroin (amongst other things) and to this day anytime I have a good time I think of him and feel guilt, partly because he isn't there and also because I probably could have done more to help him, but I chose to think that everything would take care of itself and he (we) would straighten out and "grow up" and move out of that phase. Sadly now I live with it, as do all of our close friends. A long time went by before I even did the things I used to enjoy again, mostly playing music (he was our drummer), so I totally feel where you are coming from. I too enveloped myself in gaming as a distraction as I sorted out a lot of things in my life. A lot of people say it gets easier, and it does in a sense, but in another way it gets harder. Now I have two little kids and I wish with all of my heart he could see my family now or play with my boys. It takes a lot to change Robo, even though it feels like you lost everything you never lose true friendship and I'm willing to bet that even if they don't realize it now, someone out there would be devastated if you hadn't cleaned up and you were gone. Proud of you, keep it up and every change as insignificant as it seems all adds up being a better person, just like when you roll 10 shocktrain components, you're still 1/1000th of the way closer to that zappy ?female dog?. -Rob
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Post by deputy666 on Dec 11, 2017 15:29:32 GMT -5
Well done on kicking the bad stuff OP.
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