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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Dec 6, 2017 13:58:32 GMT -5
So the last thread i made was a complete fail. So i decided to get either a fujiin or a rajjin. My hangar rn is: Leo(thunder,2x pin,aphid), The 2nd Leo(thunder,2x pinata,pin),a Natasha(2x thunder,2x magnum) and a griffin(2x magnum,2x taran) If i the thread makes me get a fujin.I will need to replace my griffin with the Fujiin because i dont have enough tarans for fujiin.So the fujiin loadout will be 2x taran and 1 orkan(because i have it) If the thread makes me get a Rajiin.I will replace somethin for it.It will have 2 thunders.
I shall put 2 polls here: fujiin or rajiin and if rajiin what bot should i replace for rajiin.
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Dec 6, 2017 14:00:29 GMT -5
Please First choose fujin or rajin. After you vote for fujin or rajin then use the 2nd vote for the bot that should be replaced with fujin or rajin
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Post by darkknight on Dec 6, 2017 14:02:32 GMT -5
Your leaugue ? Fujin is good till expert 2/3..above depends upon you skills however mostly seems useless although I haven’t climbed more than expert 2 so idk..I find them hard to kill than ancilot with my kumi Rajin on other hand is good till silver 1 unless using range weap like trebs I’ll say rather save up for fury and buy it and equip it with 3vtreb or tridents
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 14:03:27 GMT -5
Please First choose fujin or rajin. After you vote for fujin or rajin then use the 2nd vote for the bot that should be replaced with fujin or rajin What kind of natty do you have?
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Dec 6, 2017 14:04:19 GMT -5
pls vote for what bot should i replace if i buy rajin nad i only have 900 gold the previous season was in gold 3
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Dec 6, 2017 14:06:36 GMT -5
Please First choose fujin or rajin. After you vote for fujin or rajin then use the 2nd vote for the bot that should be replaced with fujin or rajin What kind of natty do you have? By natty do you mean natasha?
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Dec 6, 2017 14:14:53 GMT -5
rajin is winning and the replace that i except aswell aswell
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 6, 2017 15:00:52 GMT -5
Comes down to your play style. But, judging from your hangar, looks like you are ok with slow bots. I'll vote Raijin. That way, you can put a couple of Thunders on it. So, overall, it's cheaper than the Fujin to use. It's also a brute of a bot for BR.
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Dec 6, 2017 15:12:03 GMT -5
Comes down to your play style. But, judging from your hangar, looks like you are ok with slow bots. I'll vote Raijin. That way, you can put a couple of Thunders on it. So, overall, it's cheaper than the Fujin to use. It's also a brute of a bot for BR. But what bot should i "trash" to put rajiin there
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 6, 2017 15:14:16 GMT -5
Well, don't trash or sell anything! Shelve one of the Leos and consolidate it's weapons. Put weapons with complimentary weapon ranges. For example, Aphid and Pin don't match. Do a Leo with Thunder and all Pinatas or Punishers. And later on, change the Punishers to Magnums as you get them. Or, change them to Aphids as you get them. Leo is a pretty darn good Aphid platform.
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Dec 6, 2017 15:15:16 GMT -5
By trash i mean not use it as much as rajin
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Post by Replicant on Dec 6, 2017 15:27:15 GMT -5
Your's is a weird question... Raijin and Fujin serve very different roles, and have very different strengths and weaknesses. The bots you're looking to replace are all basically short range builds. Raijin and Fujin are not knifers. Trying to use either of the spider bots like you'd use the Leos will only frustrate you.
Raijin will feel slow and under-gunned while Fujin will feel too fragile vs. plasma. Raijin is basically a support/Long-Range platform. I like him with a pair of Zueses. If you want to take and hold a position while supporting your team, Raijin can work, but he's not very good at breaching. He's also much more effective with team-mates giving flank-support. Lack of mobility and a large model makes him vulnerable to indirect fire.
Fujin's play-style is very dependent on what you equip him with. Three Orkans will wreck bots, but if you can't get Fujin inside 300m, Plasma Griffins will eat you for lunch. Three Tarans are respectable damage too, but Fujin's relatively low health will mean you will take serious damage in a plasma vs. plasma exchange. I actually like the default Punishers on a Fujin. They shred anciles, can plink out to 500m, and many Red Knifers forget the difference charging from 300m to 100m can make in Punisher damage output. Fujin can be very ballsy vs. missiles, rockets and mid-long range ballistics.
Both of these bots have serious problems engaging K-bots.
For reference I run Workshop-bot hangers in FB Gameroom at Champion II (weapons 5, bots 9), and a somewhat stale iOS Expert 1 hanger (weapons 10, bots 9) I like both spider-bots (and prefer them over Leo and Natasha), but they're niche. If you're looking to add Mid - Long Range, I'd take a Raijin vs your Natasha when you can afford some Zueses or Trebs to go with it. If you want something Short - Mid range I'd take the stock Punisher Fujin vs. your Pin/Aphid Leo.
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Post by Replicant on Dec 6, 2017 15:33:54 GMT -5
Comes down to your play style. But, judging from your hangar, looks like you are ok with slow bots. I'll vote Raijin. That way, you can put a couple of Thunders on it. So, overall, it's cheaper than the Fujin to use. It's also a brute of a bot for BR. I'm interested in your take on the Dual Thunder Raijin (for Domination mode, I get the value in BR). Two Thunders +30% Bastion is pretty scary damage at 100ish meters, but most of the time I see them dying to rocket-fire before they can become consequential.
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Dec 6, 2017 15:34:43 GMT -5
Your's is a weird question... Raijin and Fujin serve very different roles, and have very different strengths and weaknesses. The bots you're looking to replace are all basically short range builds. Raijin and Fujin are not knifers. Trying to use either of the spider bots like you'd use the Leos will only frustrate you. Raijin will feel slow and under-gunned while Fujin will feel too fragile vs. plasma. Raijin is basically a support/Long-Range platform. I like him with a pair of Zueses. If you want to take and hold a position while supporting your team, Raijin can work, but he's not very good at breaching. He's also much more effective with team-mates giving flank-support. Lack of mobility and a large model makes him vulnerable to indirect fire. Fujin's play-style is very dependent on what you equip him with. Three Orkans will wreck bots, but if you can't get Fujin inside 300m, Plasma Griffins will eat you for lunch. Three Tarans are respectable damage too, but Fujin's relatively low health will mean you will take serious damage in a plasma vs. plasma exchange. I actually like the default Punishers on a Fujin. They shred anciles, can plink out to 500m, and many Red Knifers forget the difference charging from 300m to 100m can make in Punisher damage output. Fujin can be very ballsy vs. missiles, rockets and mid-long range ballistics. Both of these bots have serious problems engaging K-bots. For reference I run Workshop-bot hangers in FB Gameroom at Champion II (weapons 5, bots 9), and a somewhat stale iOS Expert 1 hanger (weapons 10, bots 9) I like both spider-bots (and prefer them over Leo and Natasha), but they're niche. If you're looking to add Mid - Long Range, I'd take a Raijin vs your Natasha when you can afford some Zueses or Trebs to go with it. If you want something Short - Mid range I'd take the stock Punisher Fujin vs. your Pin/Aphid Leo. ... wow an actuall good answer because of this i am problably going to go for the fujin as the primary goal but who knows maybe there will be an another good advice so i might even consider getting the rajin. thx m8
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Post by moody on Dec 6, 2017 18:16:30 GMT -5
I will say one thing. are you looking at spider bots before carnage then rhino?
If so, get a carnage.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Dec 7, 2017 21:13:36 GMT -5
I voted for fujin. The two have very different character though, I'll put my thoughts below:
Raijin: - Very boring. The recent +30% dmg buff for Bastion mode did ease the under-gunned problem of Raijin, but..in the past you activate Bastion only when you're getting hit from non-splash weapons. Now, you stay in Bastion way more often for the dmg buff, leaving you static 60~70% of the time. - Good anti-sniper in Domination. Main job is to bombard enemy snipers in the open with Kwk / Kangdang. If enemy snipers throw all their shots at you in revenge, you succeeded. Snipers are never good at dps and wasting shots at a tank like Raijin is a very bad idea. - Good defender with a pair of Thunders in BR only. Not working in Domination. - Mid-range setup does work, but there're better platforms. - Fun to climb around, but seldom useful.
Fujin: - Very squishy but toughest Ancile in game. Requires good reflex to activate Ancile just-in-time. Need to read enemy's setup before engaging for best performance. - By nature fujin is weak against energy weapons. Punisher loadout is the best way to cover this weak point, as you can out-range at 350m+ and out-gun at 200m- when facing Mag / Taran. Careful with ammo level though. - Taran / DB loadout tend to ignore this weakness and act like an assassin. I consider the Taran more reasonable. For DB, I think Thunder-carnage will be a better option.
My 2 cents.
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Post by moolamu on Dec 8, 2017 3:13:00 GMT -5
I'd recommend the Raijin strictly as a beacon bomb in BR mode.
Otherwise I would not recommend either unless buying them just for fun.
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