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Post by arakos on Nov 20, 2017 11:56:22 GMT -5
I mean: why do they want to limit the number of players that can build more hangars?
Every additional hangar means buying bots and weapons and then upgrading them. That means more money for Pixonic
This is a clear example of greed getting in the way of profit
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 20, 2017 12:03:46 GMT -5
Because they dont want to impact the meta too much, too soon. Theyre gathering more data first.
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Nov 20, 2017 15:10:31 GMT -5
Remember kids, bots before slots. If you don't have enough bots to fill a 2nd hangar with bots that can play in your league, forget about the 2nd hangar until you do. In reality that means until you have 4+ dash bots armed, additional hangars are meaningless
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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 20, 2017 15:21:36 GMT -5
The second hangar does give the ability to choose bots based on the map. But not as easy as we would like. But I do wonder why use this method to do it? I mean was the goal to make it tough for people? If the goal was to see how it works in the production environment why not implement as they did with TDM? Then if it doesn't work well, like TDM didn't work well, then remove it.
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Post by noobcake on Nov 20, 2017 16:01:24 GMT -5
Shocktrain Dash bots are so powerful that a second hangar isn't really necessary.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 20, 2017 16:07:28 GMT -5
I think this falls in the same area as MKII stuff. Its not meant for everybody in the game, just those who have been playing a while and already have the bots/weapons for a second hangar.
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Post by ogpondskum on Nov 20, 2017 16:20:19 GMT -5
I think it's crazy that you can't share bots between hangers. I think they would work good if you could. Assuming that you have the spare Au for it. Currently there is a Facebook contest and a Reddit contest to win some free hangers. If I win one, I'll use it but I'd rather spend my Au on something else as I only switch out a bot or two.
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Post by stokr on Nov 20, 2017 16:39:59 GMT -5
All of my bots are CQC (3 Orkan builds and 2 Taran builds). I dunno what I'd do with a second hangar.
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Post by ogpondskum on Nov 20, 2017 17:02:57 GMT -5
All of my bots are CQC (3 Orkan builds and 2 Taran builds). I dunno what I'd do with a second hangar. I just counted and I have 43 bots that are currently not in my hanger. Most of the bots have been won though events but some, like my Rhinos and Griffins, were purchased when I first started War Robots. Many of the bots I won are still at level one. I guess if I had an extra hanger, it would be a nice place to sort the bots that I'm upgrading. With my luck, I'd chose a level one hanger for a Champion league match.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 20, 2017 17:51:22 GMT -5
I think Pixo should just give additional hangars for free but with level caps for each hangar.
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Post by Domino on Nov 20, 2017 18:44:58 GMT -5
I mean: why do they want to limit the number of players that can build more hangars? Every additional hangar means buying bots and weapons and then upgrading them. That means more money for Pixonic This is a clear example of greed getting in the way of profit The main and most important issue is why give the users a competitive edge over the competition by allowing them to choose a hangar after they see the level they are playing. They've chosen to appeal to the people who want a competitive edge and feeding on them and them only. They could put their energy into more universal and non-disruptive money generating ideas but they didn't even try. Not in the 14+ months i've been playing.
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Post by Refuse2GrowUp on Nov 20, 2017 18:51:11 GMT -5
I'm a newb, but I would get several additional hangers if each permitted an upgrade (i.e. simultaneious upgrades for each hanger you own; two hangers, two simultaneous upgrades, four hangers, four upgrades, etc). As a newb, I wouldn't care that I couldn't share bots between hangers if each hanger did its own upgrade of something in that hanger. But without such a feature, I will never need or purchase additional hangers. It will take eons to get my first hanger to competant levels. No time to fluff around with extras
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 20, 2017 19:04:24 GMT -5
They are following the same format as World of Tanks. No surprise there. Both Russian games.
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Post by BLYTHE on Nov 20, 2017 19:12:20 GMT -5
I think having a second hangar's overkill; a 'reserve' slot should suffice. That way I have a choice to run another KF or a Zeus Fury.
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Post by T34 on Nov 20, 2017 19:27:03 GMT -5
The second hangar does give the ability to choose bots based on the map. But not as easy as we would like. But I do wonder why use this method to do it? I mean was the goal to make it tough for people? If the goal was to see how it works in the production environment why not implement as they did with TDM? Then if it doesn't work well, like TDM didn't work well, then remove it. You wonder why? It’s a money grab. It’s the biggest money grab so far should some take it up.
By setting up different hangers a player has to double down in terms of expenditure to equip the additional hanger. Pixonic does not muck around in terms of pricing when it comes to going after the biggest whales. The pricing of the dashes worked, so did MK2 and now they want more and pushing their luck further.
The expense for the privilege is huge in terms of the marginal benefit. But it does provide a competitive advantage and a move deeper into P2W. While most are collecting one or two premium equipment the blue whales are setting up a second specialised hanger comprised of premium equipment.
This sort of stuff will only stop when people don't take up the offers. If this works just wait for the next OTT development.
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Post by ogpondskum on Nov 21, 2017 8:50:32 GMT -5
I think having a second hangar's overkill; a 'reserve' slot should suffice. That way I have a choice to run another KF or a Zeus Fury. Personally, I think this would be the perfect solution.
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Post by wildboar on Nov 21, 2017 9:13:27 GMT -5
you're all missing the point ... it allows tankers to equip a tanking hanger full of cossacks without the aggravation of having to swap out their dash bots one by one
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Post by Domino on Nov 21, 2017 9:54:26 GMT -5
you're all missing the point ... it allows tankers to equip a tanking hanger full of cossacks without the aggravation of having to swap out their dash bots one by one If the Hangar selection was prompted before the level began, I might agree with your point, however It was deliberately put after the level was selected. It's a huge competitive edge aimed squarely at TT league.
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Post by javelinaut717 on Nov 21, 2017 9:54:45 GMT -5
well I couldn't agree more. I've been farming for less than half a year to get the 5th slot and now for second hanger? its seen much necessary for select a bot for suitable map. But now you have to farming for more than half a year for this? i rather buy doc or lancelot instead or buying more golden weapon.
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Post by ma'ElKoth on Nov 21, 2017 14:16:41 GMT -5
The second hangar does give the ability to choose bots based on the map. But not as easy as we would like. But I do wonder why use this method to do it? I mean was the goal to make it tough for people? ... Well, obviously the way it is now, allows for more income. If you need duplicate bots and weapons, you might spend more to get them. However, I believe there is another reason as well, one that makes me hope that it will be changed to some extent, like re-using a bot in several hangars. That other reason I could imagine is that it simply happened to fit much better into what they already had, requiring less changes and thus allowing earlier release. Right now, you might see the whole inventory of a player like a box labeled "warehouse" and any number of "bot-boxes". Each bot you buy, is like a "box". You then move weapons between the warehouse-box and the bot-boxes. Obviously any weapon would always be in a single box at all times - the same "good" cannot be put into two different storage boxes, right? The hangar is like a shelve where you put some bot-boxes in. Again, a bot-box will always either be on the shelve or not - no way to put the same box there twice? For the new hangar slots, they did not have to change any of that. They basically just needed to add more shelves. All the rest could stay as is. Less work, easier, sooner release. To use the same bot-box twice, you already need to replace the "shelve" concept. You need to be able to place the same bot-box multiple times. I believe simple enough if one changes the "shelve" for a "packing list". You could add the same bot-box onto multiple lists. Just need to make sure you cannot list the same box multiple times on the same packing list. Now, if you go full blown and re-use weapons as well as bots in several hangars and even allow to use the same bot with different weapons in different hangars....you need to change a whole lot in your existing data schema. Just my 2cc.
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 21, 2017 19:56:53 GMT -5
Because they dont want to impact the meta too much, too soon. Theyre gathering more data first. How dare you
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 21, 2017 20:00:16 GMT -5
They should just allow the same Robot/Weapons to be in multiple hangers. That would make a feature that isn't just for whales.
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Post by DBCooper on Nov 21, 2017 20:13:11 GMT -5
So does the second hangar come with only its first slot open ? lol
It would be so cool to have a special hangar with just a single hyrdancilot, to troll everyone, red and blue alike !
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 21, 2017 20:28:18 GMT -5
So does the second hangar come with only its first slot open ? lol It would be so cool to have a special hangar with just a single hyrdancilot, to troll everyone, red and blue alike ! Won't that be hysterical, spend 7500 au, only to find out you need to unlock al 5 for that for 6k more. I wouldn't put it past them.
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Post by moolamu on Nov 21, 2017 20:40:13 GMT -5
So does the second hangar come with only its first slot open ? lol It would be so cool to have a special hangar with just a single hyrdancilot, to troll everyone, red and blue alike ! Won't that be hysterical, spend 7500 au, only to find out you need to unlock al 5 for that for 6k more. I wouldn't put it past them. I don't have the exact quote, but they did say the second deck will have the same number of slots at your first deck. I think 7500au has the positive effect of making new players get 5 slots before ever even considering getting a second deck. With the advent of Mk.II and Dashes the second deck mostly benefits huge spenders only. EDIT: I take back my "7500au benefit" comment. There are a million other ways to do this and have the same effect.
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Post by creepshow on Nov 21, 2017 21:16:44 GMT -5
I've been wanting this feature for a while. Now I can switch between my brawling hangar, my capping hangar, and my "fun" hangar at will. I don't reuse weapons or mechs between any so no problems for me there
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Post by Domino on Nov 22, 2017 8:52:38 GMT -5
I've been wanting this feature for a while. Now I can switch between my brawling hangar, my capping hangar, and my "fun" hangar at will. I don't reuse weapons or mechs between any so no problems for me there your the 1%
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Post by creepshow on Nov 22, 2017 9:15:48 GMT -5
I've been wanting this feature for a while. Now I can switch between my brawling hangar, my capping hangar, and my "fun" hangar at will. I don't reuse weapons or mechs between any so no problems for me there your the 1% Occupy creepshow? Is that a drum circle I hear?
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 22, 2017 15:08:28 GMT -5
I've been wanting this feature for a while. Now I can switch between my brawling hangar, my capping hangar, and my "fun" hangar at will. I don't reuse weapons or mechs between any so no problems for me there Glad this is all working out for *you*. The rest of us aren't so fortunate as to have life come up all millhouse these days, and this is just another slap in the face. But hey, glad *you* have it so good.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 22, 2017 15:18:55 GMT -5
I think this falls in the same area as MKII stuff. Its not meant for everybody in the game, just those who have been playing a while and already have the bots/weapons for a second hangar. Exactly! I literally have a hangar of bots that I don't use ready to go into a second hangar. Many don't have upgraded weapons yet, but now that my main hangar is pretty static now at level 8, I can start focusing my upgrades on the bots and weapons I never use. I'm excited because I'm tired of fighting snipers on big maps with my knife fighters. I'm tired of facing homing missile spams that take me down to half health before I can even get close. If I see a big map, I plan to use my second tier hangar which I plan to fill with long/mid and spam bots. Sure, it's contrary to my style, but it beats tanking!
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