warrobotsnoob
Destrier
Posts: 19
Karma: 5
Pilot name: Never Die
Platform: iOS
Clan: IGC
League: Expert
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Post by warrobotsnoob on Nov 15, 2017 21:56:58 GMT -5
orkan has strong burst damage which makes it able to dash out, fire full salvo then get back into cover
taran has more sustained damage and range but does damage over a longer period of time which may result in death
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Post by Nexsan on Nov 15, 2017 21:58:34 GMT -5
Hydras
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Post by T34 on Nov 15, 2017 22:12:25 GMT -5
has to be shocktrains at the moment.
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Post by Mammoth Mk-2 on Nov 16, 2017 1:46:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 4:27:34 GMT -5
Orcans or Tarans. If you're hunting other dash bots, likely tarans. If your hunting anything without an ancile, orcans.
Even if they have an ancile, rush into their shield and open up.
Of the two, I'd go with Orcans.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Nov 16, 2017 4:39:33 GMT -5
Orkans. It is more deadly.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 16, 2017 5:04:29 GMT -5
While I don’t actually run orkans currently on my haechi, mainly because it would get steam rolled heads up by mk2 haechi (plentifully abundant in expert... despite it being ... expert),
Haechi are beyond the best choice for a high level haechi. I say beyond best choice, becsuse it’s not really even s question. It’s a silver giveaway when you roll a toughed up haechi.
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Post by javelinaut717 on Nov 16, 2017 5:10:15 GMT -5
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Nov 18, 2017 8:13:10 GMT -5
3x ecu of course
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Post by hyderier on Nov 18, 2017 9:39:19 GMT -5
There's really no contest IMO, Haechi is the best Hydra platform. Biggest worry of Hydra shooter is Spirals, Hydras, Zenits and Noricums. And energy shield is best defence against these, so this rules out Bulgasari. Fujin is just a much worse version of Haechi in every respect, so there's no contest. Now Doc might do, it does have more firepower, but it so much less survivable without shield and without dash, that it is possible to die before match ends. So Hydras are best on Haechi, use them. |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 18, 2017 9:43:59 GMT -5
Orkans if you like hit and run. Shocktrain if you want to dominate a game with only a handful of bots realizing it and everyone out to kill you everytime you fire.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 18, 2017 11:22:50 GMT -5
as long as your always in red im cool. Seems like a waste. Now you just took a potentially ridiculous OP bot and made it to were now it cant even hold a beacon if someone wants to take. With Orks, I can hide around the corner, pop out and kill 2 reds and maintain beacon control. I think with any build the key question you need to ask yourself honestly, " can this loadout capture AND hold a Beacon effectively?" If the answer is No as with any hydra load out, then you need to limit your hangar to only one of these kind of rigs. Playing solo I see tons of Expert League players with 3 and as many as 4 loadout that are range or just slow in general that can not capture or hold a beacon from something as basic as a Plasma Griffin or any other common brawler loadout. The game is all about map control. As fun and annoying as hydras are and even with the buff they got it still isnt an effective rig in most applications especially with all the Ancile bots out. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 18, 2017 11:29:43 GMT -5
Shocktrains can engage and do fast max damage while beyond the range of the other two. At the moment it can also punch through the physical shields of the gareth and galahad.
Death star haechi.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 18, 2017 12:37:34 GMT -5
as long as your always in red im cool. Seems like a waste. Now you just to a ridiculously OP bot and made it to were now it cant even hold a beacon if someone wants to take. With Orks, I can hide around the corner, pop out and kill 2 reds and maintain beacon control. I think with any build the key question you need to ask yourself honestly, " can this loadout capture AND hold a Beacon effectively?" If the answer is No as with any hydra load out, then you need to limit your hangar to only one of these kind of rigs. Playing solo I see tons of Expert League players with 3 and as many as 4 loadout that are range or just slow in general that can not capture or hold a beacon from something as basic as a Plasma Griffin or any other common brawler loadout. The game is all about map control. As fun and annoying as hydras are and even with the buff they got it still isnt an effective rig in most applications especially with all the Ancile bots out. It's surprisingly effective. |
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 18, 2017 13:27:20 GMT -5
Sorry, I guess I am just not seeing it. Everytime I have some hydra loadout on my side there in the back hiding. When they are near a beacon, if any red with just about any brawler rig comes after them, they have to retreat to keep from getting killed and lose the beacon.
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Post by Mammoth Mk-2 on Nov 18, 2017 13:53:07 GMT -5
as long as your always in red im cool. Seems like a waste. Now you just to a ridiculously OP bot and made it to were now it cant even hold a beacon if someone wants to take. With Orks, I can hide around the corner, pop out and kill 2 reds and maintain beacon control. I think with any build the key question you need to ask yourself honestly, " can this loadout capture AND hold a Beacon effectively?" If the answer is No as with any hydra load out, then you need to limit your hangar to only one of these kind of rigs. Playing solo I see tons of Expert League players with 3 and as many as 4 loadout that are range or just slow in general that can not capture or hold a beacon from something as basic as a Plasma Griffin or any other common brawler loadout. The game is all about map control. As fun and annoying as hydras are and even with the buff they got it still isnt an effective rig in most applications especially with all the Ancile bots out. Oh, thanks. I had no idea -.- |
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Post by arakos on Nov 18, 2017 16:33:53 GMT -5
What about scourges or tarans? Which would be best on Haechi considering the +5% buff scourges are about to get?
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Post by F-A-H-Q on Nov 18, 2017 17:29:02 GMT -5
I used to run one orkan and one taran haechi.
Now I run two orkan haechi-often I can do over 1 million damage and cap 4-5 beacons with just those two bots.
I moved my tarans over to bulgasari and ancilot.
Orkan haechi is crazy strong against everything except out in the open against long range.
Please stop with this hydra haechi nonsense.
I'm not sure what would posses anyone to put the worst weapon in the game on the best bot in the game and lose all this bot was meant to do-kill and take beacons. No hydra build does either of these.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 18, 2017 17:38:55 GMT -5
I used to run one orkan and one taran haechi. Now I run two orkan haechi-often I can do over 1 million damage and cap 4-5 beacons with just those two bots. I moved my tarans over to bulgasari and ancilot. Orkan haechi is crazy strong against everything except out in the open against long range. Please stop with this hydra haechi nonsense. I'm not sure what would posses anyone to put the worst weapon in the game on the best bot in the game and lose all this bot was meant to do-kill and take beacons. No hydra build does either of these. Yup, Pretty much what I said.. lol.. But what do we know Fahq?  |
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Post by Nexsan on Nov 18, 2017 18:37:38 GMT -5
as long as your always in red im cool. Seems like a waste. Now you just took a potentially ridiculous OP bot and made it to were now it cant even hold a beacon if someone wants to take. With Orks, I can hide around the corner, pop out and kill 2 reds and maintain beacon control. I think with any build the key question you need to ask yourself honestly, " can this loadout capture AND hold a Beacon effectively?" If the answer is No as with any hydra load out, then you need to limit your hangar to only one of these kind of rigs. Playing solo I see tons of Expert League players with 3 and as many as 4 loadout that are range or just slow in general that can not capture or hold a beacon from something as basic as a Plasma Griffin or any other common brawler loadout. The game is all about map control. As fun and annoying as hydras are and even with the buff they got it still isnt an effective rig in most applications especially with all the Ancile bots out. You're overthinking it. I was being negative 'cause I don't own a Haechi. I agree that Hydras are largely ineffective, hence why I suggested it. It can either be a blessing or a curse depending on which side it lands on  |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Nov 18, 2017 19:23:36 GMT -5
I vote for three of these.  |
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Nov 18, 2017 20:11:36 GMT -5
3 ECU shields
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Post by moolamu on Nov 19, 2017 1:54:15 GMT -5
Unequip all weapons. People get triggered just by the sight of it.
Psycological warfare, my man.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 19, 2017 2:24:12 GMT -5
What about scourges or tarans? Which would be best on Haechi considering the +5% buff scourges are about to get? Shocktrain is best on a haechi, followed by orkans. Scourge is a sustained damage weapon that requires a lock that is easy to break when you dash and eliminates much of the benefit of dashing in the first place. |
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Post by arakos on Nov 19, 2017 4:10:05 GMT -5
What about scourges or tarans? Which would be best on Haechi considering the +5% buff scourges are about to get? Shocktrain is best on a haechi, followed by orkans. Scourge is a sustained damage weapon that requires a lock that is easy to break when you dash and eliminates much of the benefit of dashing in the first place. Thank you! Would you switch tarans for orkans then? I was thinking of energy weapons to fight other Haechi. Hence the tarans/scourges question |
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Post by maverick on Nov 19, 2017 5:18:01 GMT -5
A self destruct button
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 19, 2017 9:42:57 GMT -5
Shocktrain is best on a haechi, followed by orkans. Scourge is a sustained damage weapon that requires a lock that is easy to break when you dash and eliminates much of the benefit of dashing in the first place. Thank you! Would you switch tarans for orkans then? I was thinking of energy weapons to fight other Haechi. Hence the tarans/scourges question I'd run orkans but would try either/both and see what I prefer. t will be a beast ether way. The key is how you use it. Hit-and-run is the big advantage they have. |
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 19, 2017 13:37:19 GMT -5
Buy Shocktrains. Max them (MK2) and kick some butt.
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