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Post by moses on Nov 13, 2017 14:28:36 GMT -5
Anyone else see this yet:
/description
I don’t know why a well funded, highly profitable company needs to do a Kickstarter project...
...but anyway, seems like it is actually a bunch of real money offers for actual War Robots mobile content / merchandise.
I wouldn't drop any real money on it, but maybe interesting to someone...
If there is already a thread I missed on this my apologies
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 13, 2017 14:39:48 GMT -5
F these greedy 「illegitimate child」s.
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Post by zer00eyz on Nov 13, 2017 14:59:15 GMT -5
Anyone else see this yet: /description I don’t know why a well funded, highly profitable company needs to do a Kickstarter project... ...but anyway, seems like it is actually a bunch of real money offers for actual War Robots mobile content / merchandise. I wouldn't drop any real money on it, but maybe interesting to someone... If there is already a thread I missed on this my apologies Market testing would be my best guess. VR is DOA - right now. Lots of VR games are getting back ported to desktop because the market just isn't there right now, and neither is the technology. |
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Post by moses on Nov 13, 2017 15:08:16 GMT -5
Anyone else see this yet: /description I donât know why a well funded, highly profitable company needs to do a Kickstarter project... ...but anyway, seems like it is actually a bunch of real money offers for actual War Robots mobile content / merchandise. I wouldn't drop any real money on it, but maybe interesting to someone... If there is already a thread I missed on this my apologies Market testing would be my best guess. VR is DOA - right now. Lots of VR games are getting back ported to desktop because the market just isn't there right now, and neither is the technology. Makes sense. Next time I have a bull「dookie」 idea with no budget I am gonna try and get the random public to pay for it.. |
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Post by krebby on Nov 13, 2017 15:14:37 GMT -5
Market testing would be my best guess. VR is DOA - right now. Lots of VR games are getting back ported to desktop because the market just isn't there right now, and neither is the technology. I think you're probably correct that this is market testing. And if so, it is incompetent market testing. The backer rewards lean heavily toward providing you content for War Robots mobile. Any person who "backs" this project because they wanted to buy a $150 Kumiho rather than spend $200 on components will be indistinguishable from someone excited about the VR concept who is willing to throw $150 at Pixonic. So the test results will not be indicative of the VR market. I mean, Pixonic could also start selling cookies by offering a free Kumiho if you buy $150 worth of cookie boxes. But that doesn't mean Pixonic suddenly knows how to compete with the Oreo. |
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Nov 13, 2017 15:17:02 GMT -5
IMO, I think VR games arent catching on like originally planned but to keep one foot in the door, Pixonic will 'finish' what they already started in the format... Kinda park it and maintain the game(s) just in case VR really catches on... And created the Kickstarter to $130k that offers material for the mobile game because
1) $130k will pay their developmental overhead cost for development of the project.
2) Theres a whole 'monkey-see monkey-do' thing with many companies anyway: THEY did it (BoT) and it worked out OK so we can AND SHOULD do it too
2A) There seems to be this tit-4-tat thing going on between BoT and War Robots considering the Dreadnought map vs. the BoT first map, the use of 'Inquisitor' (War Robots Mek vs BoT (wep)
3) If this kickstarter works, expect more for T-Shirt lines, Scale Models, War Robots board games and more. This Capain is a test... instead of spending their own $$$ they will test interest and offer real money deals and possibly withdrawing Real money for stuff offers to the game to make it look like they are not P2W.
Me? I dont have RM for the 'deals' nor kick starters.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Nov 13, 2017 15:18:15 GMT -5
Market testing would be my best guess. VR is DOA - right now. Lots of VR games are getting back ported to desktop because the market just isn't there right now, and neither is the technology. I think you're probably correct that this is market testing. And if so, it is incompetent market testing. The backer rewards lean heavily toward providing you content for War Robots mobile. Any person who "backs" this project because they wanted to buy a $150 Kumiho rather than spend $200 on components will be indistinguishable from someone excited about the VR concept who is willing to throw $150 at Pixonic. So the test results will not be indicative of the VR market. I mean, Pixonic could also start selling cookies by offering a free Kumiho if you buy $150 worth of cookie boxes. But that doesn't mean Pixonic suddenly knows how to compete with the Oreo. I bet Russian Oreos suck. |
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Post by mallexx222 on Nov 16, 2017 20:16:02 GMT -5
My guess is that the developers at Pix wanted to make a run at a VR version. It's cool and they would learn a lot and improve their resumes as Pix can't last forever especially with their current business model.
But they are not stupid and know the market is not there so they wouldn't want to fund it but want to placate their programmers. So they say hey we will provide you with in app incentives at just below what gamers would pay to get them to donate for a limited time, hence the December 4th deadline. No skin off their back regardless of outcome and yes it does serve as a test of sorts to see if they can transfer project funding costs to these types of efforts regardless of why anyone buys the in app incentives.
Just my two cents.
However it appears from progress, which usually flares in the beginning and just at the end when there is any interest, has not happened. Pix's reputation proceeds them. The trust and desire is not there.
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Post by warrobotmaddog on Nov 16, 2017 21:00:33 GMT -5
For 5k I want all the robots at level 12 with all the weapons level 12. Crazy Russians!
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Post by warrobotmaddog on Nov 16, 2017 21:01:13 GMT -5
And even then I would not pat that,
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Post by mallexx222 on Nov 26, 2017 23:11:31 GMT -5
They are still nowhere near where they need to be to have ANY chance of completing this.
No way they make it and the amounts for the prizes are ridiculous. $5,000 my 「bum-bum」! In some parallel universe maybe but not this one.
Mail.ru. owns Pix as many of you know. They spent $30M with an expected ROI of 3 years or less. They are one year in and covering purchase costs of Pix so there is NO extra money for VR ventures. Pix really does need this money but given their recent behavior there is NO WAY they will see it. Violation of Trust being paramount. Makes sense now why they came out with this request. I feel bad for the developers, new group and struggling under new rules and directives but, evil's evil guys. Maybe next time...but again...I doubt it.
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Post by moolamu on Nov 26, 2017 23:49:42 GMT -5
I've said it once, I'll say it again:
Pixonic has zero obligation to fufill any of its promises on Kickstarter. They can literally walk away with your money without doing anything.
Seriously evaluate if you trust the company before supporting then on Kickstarter.
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Post by mallexx222 on Nov 27, 2017 12:14:25 GMT -5
I've said it once, I'll say it again: Pixonic has zero obligation to fufill any of its promises on Kickstarter. They can literally walk away with your money without doing anything. Seriously evaluate if you trust the company before supporting then on Kickstarter. My thinking and hopes here are that the people that have donated have done so ONLY for the discounted rewards one receives for doing so. While I think they suck personally so do the in game so called deals. This way you get what you would have purchased in game and more for less. This in fact would constitute that you have been rewarded or compensated for your donation. But yes that money is gone either way success or failure. Once you get out of the $50 range and I am being generous the deals are just stupidly terrible. Just my thoughts. Happy Hunting. |
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Post by NerFB on Dec 11, 2017 11:24:53 GMT -5
Just to update you, the War Robots VR is going to....fail.
They’re at 20% funding with 1 day to go.
But.
Their last update says they’re going to give backers the rewards anyway.
“We have decided to reward our backers regardless of whether the project will be funded or not. Just because you're awesome.
After all, even if we don't make it, your involvement and support are the most important things.”
Technically, if the campaign fails, Kickstarter DON’T collect your money.
Just one for the brave, I think you get the reward without paying for it....
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Post by Domino on Dec 11, 2017 11:41:31 GMT -5
Mechwarrior 5 is coming and should be VR. That would spell doom for this project
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Post by taniel on Dec 11, 2017 12:19:12 GMT -5
I think they need independent funding (independent of mail.ru) for a new project so that their owner doesn't risk anything. This game is very old (4 years soon!). It looks old and feels old. Time is running, the competition is never asleep and the developers want to work on something new and exciting. From what I've learned I can see that the new owner is pushing pixo to squeez as much $$$ as possible before the game dies. No game lives forever - every one dies eventually.
What pixonic did lately (OP balance-breaking bots/weps that can't be bought by any of in game currencies - only by real $$$ ) show me that it's clear that they are well aware of how things look - the old project needs to be monetized as much as possible befofe jumping ship and going for the new one. And I'm pretty sure that you would be able to play War Robots VR even withot any VR set (it just wouldn't be as good looking/immersive - that's all).
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Post by bronzeknee on Dec 11, 2017 12:35:58 GMT -5
Just to update you, the War Robots VR is going to....fail. They’re at 20% funding with 1 day to go. But.Their last update says they’re going to give backers the rewards anyway. “We have decided to reward our backers regardless of whether the project will be funded or not. Just because you're awesome. After all, even if we don't make it, your involvement and support are the most important things.” Technically, if the campaign fails, Kickstarter DON’T collect your money. Just one for the brave, I think you get the reward without paying for it....I just pledged, let's see what happens. |
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 11, 2017 13:45:06 GMT -5
Just to update you, the War Robots VR is going to....fail. They’re at 20% funding with 1 day to go. But.Their last update says they’re going to give backers the rewards anyway. “We have decided to reward our backers regardless of whether the project will be funded or not. Just because you're awesome. After all, even if we don't make it, your involvement and support are the most important things.” Technically, if the campaign fails, Kickstarter DON’T collect your money. Just one for the brave, I think you get the reward without paying for it....I just pledged, let's see what happens. Someone should pledge over $5000. Big risk but you maybe get all the new stuff free! |
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 11, 2017 14:00:41 GMT -5
I saw some footage of the War Robots VR game. Very Mechwarrior'ish. I'd spend real money on that game, but not as a quasi "VR" game. Make it for normal use and I'll buy it.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 11, 2017 14:09:00 GMT -5
I saw some footage of the War Robots VR game. Very Mechwarrior'ish. I'd spend real money on that game, but not as a quasi "VR" game. Make it for normal use and I'll buy it. I agree. I have no interest in any VR game, ever. Give me a controller and a screen, or a phone/tablet with a touchscreen and I'm happy. I will be very sad if the entire gaming industry starts shifting towards VR. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:31:05 GMT -5
Just to update you, the War Robots VR is going to....fail. They’re at 20% funding with 1 day to go. But.Their last update says they’re going to give backers the rewards anyway. “We have decided to reward our backers regardless of whether the project will be funded or not. Just because you're awesome. After all, even if we don't make it, your involvement and support are the most important things.” Technically, if the campaign fails, Kickstarter DON’T collect your money. Just one for the brave, I think you get the reward without paying for it....I just pledged, let's see what happens. I heard the reward is a Level 1 Cossack  |
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Post by T34 on Dec 11, 2017 18:48:00 GMT -5
Just to update you, the War Robots VR is going to....fail. They’re at 20% funding with 1 day to go. But.Their last update says they’re going to give backers the rewards anyway. “We have decided to reward our backers regardless of whether the project will be funded or not. Just because you're awesome. After all, even if we don't make it, your involvement and support are the most important things.” Technically, if the campaign fails, Kickstarter DON’T collect your money. Just one for the brave, I think you get the reward without paying for it....I just pledged, let's see what happens. wow, everyone may do the same and ......
PS how much did you pledge?
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 11, 2017 19:15:13 GMT -5
Just to update you, the War Robots VR is going to....fail. They’re at 20% funding with 1 day to go. Wow. What a vote of confidence from their community. If you ever were in doubt that the recent changes have wrecked War Robots, this is the proof. I myself wouldn't have thought twice about backing this just a year ago. |
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Post by AVC on Dec 11, 2017 21:13:07 GMT -5
Like any gambling, only put forward as much as you're prepared to lose.
They may have a big funding from someone they are not disclosing till the last minute.
What's worse, even for the $5K you only get a single of any given weapon
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Post by getdabeacons on Dec 11, 2017 23:20:06 GMT -5
the big problem is they are giving rewards for the mobile game to people who will need pcs to play the vr version or care about it . i play on facebook gameroom now that it is an option for pc. getting rewards for the mobile game is 0 incentive to me.
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Post by AVC on Dec 12, 2017 4:41:07 GMT -5
From what I read the rewards are for whatever platform you play on, be it FB, iOS, 'droid etc
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Post by AVC on Dec 13, 2017 3:58:14 GMT -5
If you read the latest update, it says this:
"While we can’t deliver the game unless funded, we have prepared some digital rewards for those who believed in this project. They are different from the original ones in Tiers & Rewards list"
In other words, that cool Griffin paint job may not happen. They might just give you some silver instead. Or some table scraps.
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Post by WilsonK on Dec 13, 2017 4:23:18 GMT -5
Mechwarrior 5 is coming and should be VR. That would spell doom for this project I'd choose MechWarrior for PC anytime, any day. |
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Post by NerFB on Dec 14, 2017 18:35:28 GMT -5
Just to update you, the War Robots VR is going to....fail. They’re at 20% funding with 1 day to go. But.Their last update says they’re going to give backers the rewards anyway. “We have decided to reward our backers regardless of whether the project will be funded or not. Just because you're awesome. After all, even if we don't make it, your involvement and support are the most important things.” Technically, if the campaign fails, Kickstarter DON’T collect your money. Just one for the brave, I think you get the reward without paying for it....I just pledged, let's see what happens. - so, what happened? |
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Post by bronzeknee on Dec 14, 2017 19:03:46 GMT -5
Well it didn't reach the goal so I didn't lose 25 bucks. They sent me an email, this was the ending:
We'll see if I get 30 days and premium and 500 gold.
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