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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Nov 11, 2017 8:02:36 GMT -5
? won 2 tridents what to do with them tripin natty?
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Post by BastionOW on Nov 11, 2017 8:16:33 GMT -5
Shelve them. They're practically no use.
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Post by darkknight on Nov 11, 2017 8:47:23 GMT -5
? won 2 tridents what to do with them tripin natty? Equip em with fury and they are killer..ofc if you have one more though idk if they could be useful in higher leaugues but are deadly till diamond atleast |
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Post by moolamu on Nov 11, 2017 9:39:27 GMT -5
I have 3 now. But the amount of bubble shields these days is too damn high for them to be as effective as before.
I'm not sure about their value anymore.
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Post by BastionOW on Nov 11, 2017 10:07:30 GMT -5
I have 3 now. But the amount of bubble shields these days is too damn high for them to be as effective as before. I'm not sure about their value anymore. Exactly why I said to shelve them. |
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Nov 11, 2017 10:58:42 GMT -5
Shelve them. They're practically no use. Ok |
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Post by elcheapo on Nov 12, 2017 7:05:20 GMT -5
They are not useless , people just complain about the DPS . If you dont have a zeus , trident is your next best option for mid range . Dont knife fight and you will be fine .
I have a trident Natasha , carnage and fury in my garage . I also found the least useless gun to put onto a Shutze is a trident .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 7:15:10 GMT -5
When Brit Bots were the big thing, they were awesome to level up. Now, with anciles being so common at high level, not really worth levelling. In the low tiers, still a good weapon to have. It depends where you are.
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Post by elcheapo on Nov 12, 2017 7:31:16 GMT -5
Lucky for noobs and higher ups you will find 2-3 bouncing griffins for every ancile bot . Tridents are worth leveling .
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Post by moody on Nov 13, 2017 6:32:56 GMT -5
As to best equipment on nat. Two tridents two pins is the go-to.
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Post by BastionOW on Nov 13, 2017 6:35:20 GMT -5
As to best equipment on nat. Two tridents two pins is the go-to. Just casually Strolling into Shocktrain range... |
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Post by moody on Nov 13, 2017 6:39:25 GMT -5
As to best equipment on nat. Two tridents two pins is the go-to. Just casually Strolling into Shocktrain range... At this point if there are shocktrains on the field and you still use a nat there is no hope anyway. There are options for 600+ range but none are great. Molots and gekko don't have splash so aren't usable against 'round-the-corner' targets. Best is probably spirals but the damage is low. |
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Post by BastionOW on Nov 13, 2017 6:41:29 GMT -5
Just casually Strolling into Shocktrain range... At this point if there are shocktrains on the field and you still use a nat there is no hope anyway. There are options for 600+ range but none are great. Molots and gekko don't have splash so aren't usable against 'round-the-corner' targets. Best is probably spirals but the damage is low. Noricums  |
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Post by moolamu on Nov 13, 2017 11:45:56 GMT -5
I've tried out a Pin-Trident-Tasha, and the ye old triple trident Fury in diamond.
I did not like the Tasha. Getting into 500m of anything in this set-up is asking to be killed. But staying at 500m+ is a waste of two whole hardpoints.
The Fury fairs better. Much higher survivability because that extra 100m gives you a lot more options for positioning. Against non-shielded targets it is absolutely brutal, but worthless against shielded ones.
Overall, I think 1 trident is nothing, 2 is solidly meh, and 3 is where it's possibly good. How good it is highly depends on how many bubble shields are out there the moment you spawned your Fury.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 13, 2017 11:56:35 GMT -5
I've tried out a Pin-Trident-Tasha, and the ye old triple trident Fury in diamond. I did not like the Tasha. Getting into 500m of anything in this set-up is asking to be killed. But staying at 500m+ is a waste of two whole hardpoints. The Fury fairs better. Much higher survivability because that extra 100m gives you a lot more options for positioning. Against non-shielded targets it is absolutely brutal, but worthless against shielded ones. Overall, I think 1 trident is nothing, 2 is solidly meh, and 3 is where it's possibly good. How good it is highly depends on how many bubble shields are out there the moment you spawned your Fury. I have a couple of them that I have never used since I got some tempests at the same time. I feel kinda stupid for levelling one of them, so take the suggestion with a grain of salt b/c I don't like them, but what about throwing a couple of noricum on a natty with them to take out the anciles first? |
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Post by moolamu on Nov 13, 2017 12:17:53 GMT -5
I will have to upgrade some noricums to try that. Those things have been collecting dust since forever. Maybe someone else have an answer to this.
If I own the Tempest, I would use that over the tridents no questions asked. Tridents are just meh, with a few shining moments of "holy crap I literally melted that Griffin in 2 salvos."
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Post by Lainz on Nov 14, 2017 8:05:15 GMT -5
Well if the question is "in which bot should I put them?" I'll pick a Natasha along with a couple of pins or molots. I never tried to remove ancile with molots then unload tridents, so I can't tell you if it works fine. The biggest issue I felt with pins is their inferior range compared to tridents. So if you really like tridents wait until you can spend 5000au a Fury, I didn't regret the purchase. BTW there are higher priority gold must-have.  If the question is "should I use them" well it really depends. Can't say are trash and I think they are worthy a try. But if you are just looking for a splash dmg support platform an RDB griffin is more affordable than a fury and works fine. |
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Post by moolamu on Nov 14, 2017 8:39:27 GMT -5
I did try the molot-trident-tasha.
The Molots are not strong enough in popping bubbles. Not only do they barely make a dent on the Ancile (yes, even the Carnage's), but they regenerate while you reload. You'd be better off shooting someone else while waiting for your teammates to pop it for you.
In which case, you might as well be running a Fury. But nobody says "might as well run a Fury" because there are higher priorities for 5000au.
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Post by inesb on Nov 14, 2017 8:42:33 GMT -5
What about a Trident Carnage? That works fine! Carnage is fast enough to get in shooting position, unload and get back behind cover before a target can react. And Carnage is protected by its Ancile. You just have to stay out of range of plasma bots and you´ll be fine.
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Post by wildboar on Nov 14, 2017 8:52:55 GMT -5
Trident Carnage is slooooow ... the Zeus is much better suited ...
I now have 4 Tridents that I don't use ... 2 are level 8/9 ..the others L1 ...
Need a serious buff to be worthwhile to me ... maybe not fire all three with one press of the fire button ... maybe reload mechanism like every other rocket weps seems to have got ...
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Post by moolamu on Nov 14, 2017 10:58:59 GMT -5
Need a serious buff to be worthwhile to me ... maybe not fire all three with one press of the fire button ... maybe reload mechanism like every other rocket weps seems to have got ... That, would be so good, without even touching the damage. So much more control. |
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Post by drone42 on Nov 14, 2017 16:49:40 GMT -5
Tridents aren’t quite the cannons of death that people think they should be, but they are still useful.
- Firing delay can be annoying, but can be useful if the target is moving and you slightly miss when you initially press the button.
- 100m range advantage over Tulumbas/pins, and equal range to Zeus's. (I don’t come across many shocktrains or scourges in Diamond 2, so I’m not familiar with their ranges or effective ranges).
- Carnage Trident is my preferred Trident loadout. The extra mobility helps you get in and out of cover when reloading. The ancile helps protect against RDBs and other Trident builds.
- Natasha with Tridents/Pins. More firepower, but slower and no Ancile, so more vulnerable if caught by other bots.
- Leo with Trident/Pins. More health, so better against plasma than either of the other bots. But lower firepower than the Natasha, and no Ancile when compared to the Carnage.
- Trident Fury. Most firepower at 600m, but slow and no Ancile. Does require more Tridents than you may have, and a bot that costs 5000 gold. (I’ve not got a Fury, so I’ve never been able to try this build.)
- Raijin Trident. Same firepower as Carnage when moving, a bit more in Bastion mode. But Bastion mode basically turns it into rocket-bait in a mid-range fight.
It’s a matter of personal preference, really. I prefer the Carnage for the mobility and Ancile if I’m running Tridents.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 14, 2017 17:03:56 GMT -5
Was gonna say, if you aren't already using the Carny for Zeuses or Thunders... 2x Tridents would work better there than on a Natty... IMO.
But if you do use the Natty... the Noricum idea may work to a point... but you had better have those puppies maxed if you want to drop a shield completely with just 2 of them... and be facing folks a few levels below you. Might as well just fire all weapons if their shield is full. IF it is down a bit... sure, why not? From about 500-350m the Noris fire pretty fast now... and they do drain shields pretty well if all of the munitions hit... try it 1 at a time and then the Tridents. But not on a Fujin that is in Sentry mode. Just look away and find another target.
Personally, I would use Puns for the lights and only worry about using them if I get attacked or if I am advancing on purpose. Otherwise, just worry about the Tridents at 600m and using splash. That is how I approached Natty when I played it and it worked out. Basically, play it like a Carny that has no Ancile, is slower, but has pretty decent close up self defense (if you use Puns).
Still... Carny if you just HAVE to run them, is my advice.
Fury with 2 Tridents and a Zeus, or even a Nashorn, may even be better than a Natty of any kind, overall... I don't know. Carny just works though. But you have to think less like it is a death cannon and more like you are just providing splash support. Which is what they are meant for... old times notwithstanding.
IMO, YMMV
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 3:48:08 GMT -5
I tried a Natasha Trident today. Still good. Most are used to staying 500m away, not 600m so they are easy to hit. Most bots can dash or jump, so single fire if you suspect that. I pair it w Noricums if they hide. Then flush them out.
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Post by elcheapo on Nov 16, 2017 4:19:22 GMT -5
I am not quite too happy with pins on my Trident Tash . Pins seem to be as helpful as cotton balls .
I wonder if Molots will gimme more oomph ?
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Post by BastionOW on Nov 16, 2017 4:50:20 GMT -5
I am not quite too happy with pins on my Trident Tash . Pins seem to be as helpful as cotton balls . I wonder if Molots will gimme more oomph ? They can help you take down Ancile shields before firing into them. |
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Post by robocain on Nov 16, 2017 14:28:56 GMT -5
Raijin because extra damage in bastion mode.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 16, 2017 15:07:41 GMT -5
I am not quite too happy with pins on my Trident Tash . Pins seem to be as helpful as cotton balls . I wonder if Molots will gimme more oomph ? They can help you take down Ancile shields before firing into them. Hmmm... I object! IMO... Just 2 Molots barely does a whole lot... even to Carny shields. Even 2x Noris do better than Molots at their current state since so many hit at once, vs the long Molot cycle time. Personally, I echo my previous suggestion... Puns ftw! |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 16, 2017 15:08:36 GMT -5
Ya know... this is actually worth testing in a custom match with a friend, clanmate, or alt account. I will if I get the chance, just because.
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Post by sugarbird on Nov 16, 2017 15:09:21 GMT -5
I'm with ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48. Not as good as Zeus but I think Carnage is a great bot and I have had lots of FUN with Tridents on Carnage. Also easy access for F2P. |
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