Will the Zeus Carnage Still Be Viable?

You can never have too many Orkans Ok well you can, but another set would not go astray! That being said, Zues Carnage is a solid build and because it's anti-dash it should do well., you just have to remember that the Furys and Butches of this world will eat you alive if you stay exposed. You need to be very aware and don't focus on one target for the hell of it, hit them and move, Switch targets, don't be predictable. You more mobility than any other midranger, use it.


Personally I LOVE zues, it's just a different play style and very, very nice to have. You can also put them on a Carnage and start levelling them while you work towards another zues and a big fat fury to put them on.

Recently swapped out Thunders for Zeus on my Carny. Only 7 and 6 at the mo, but it is good fun popping up and zapping the campers. Low damage at the mo, but can't wait to get them at a usable level.

In iOS champ-yep it's viable. I'm seeing mk2 zeus and wow they mess up a haechi. Also ember is an alternative on carny and very viable.
I played a game last night where some guy next to me on valley kept getting super fast kills...yep mk2 thunder carny. He was obliterating fools.
So carnage is a very viable bot in the TT meta. He needs to be leveled up and his weps should be a priority.
Zeus is the best anti-dash in the game (I often run a maxed zeus fury-3 zaps and and maxed haechi is gone).
He is a great investment.

Thank you all for your help! I feel more comfortable with the taran bulgasari due to its low reload time and longer range compared to orkans, but if orkan bulgasari will become more viable in this meta, please let me know if there are any differences in strategy between the orkan and taran bulgasari.

With the current meta (not sure if the hover bot will break the meta like the dash bots did), I find the that my RDB Griffin has become much weaker with bots such Lancelots and Haechis in expert league. I currently have 1000 gold to spend (I recently bought three orkans), and I plan on later spending this on:
- 2 Zeus
- Lancelot
- Rogatka
- Fury
- More orkans? 
- Other

Is there a particular order for which I should spend my gold?

So you think I should buy the rogatka, and then an ancilot?

Well, you have a very solid hangar. Not many bots which would make it better... Ancilot is still the only double-shielded tank (even if Haechi is better with its 50% more firepower, as dash trumps Lances shield). And Rog is the capper-brawler 2nd only to Kumiho (2 upgraded Orkans are surprisingly powerful).

But I am not saying you should or shouldn't. I am saying, if you want something new, these are the good options.

Thank you for your advice. Would you think rogatka or ancilot is a better investment? And are these options better than buying two zeus?

Awesome, thank you! I have 5 tarans at the moment. So I guess, keep my RDB griffin in my hangar instead of replacing it with a thunder carnage? And save up for the lance?

Well, it is very much personal preference. My order would be this, but it's totally subjective.

Seeing how your hangar lacks a fast bot, I'd get Rogatka first. It's much cheaper than than Ancilot, and you do have the Bulgasari, which also serves similar role. Rogatka is hit-and-run experience. I use it as opening bot and go for the initial beacons grab. It is also good at going for beacons later too, of course.

Zeus are fun too. I personally prefer them on Natasha with a pair of Geckos, which is a very versatile setup because of Gecko range, and because Geckos and Zeus work very well together (because Zeus requires locking, they don't get fired accidentally when target is out of range). Many prefer speed of Carnage, and then 3 Zeus on Fury gives the ultimate zapping power (well, unless you can afford 3x Mk2-12 Shocktrains for Bulgasari...). I consider Zeuses to be sort of like sniping experience on steroids, getting into position, getting firing angle, keeping target in sight, using cover to avoid counter-fire... I guess if you like RDB, you probably like Zeus too.

And third Ancilot. Well, it is slow, rush doesn't last long, so not very tactical bot. Stomp into a situation, get the job done, then keep doing the job when the next wave of reds comes. If you like Bulgasari but die to rockets too much to your liking, then Ancile helps with that. On the other hand if you like Bulgasari but think it is a bit slow and it's dash recharges too slowly, Ancilot will be even slower... But seeing how you don't have any fast bots now, you will probably not consider Lancelot too slow.