dilwale
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Post by dilwale on Jul 12, 2017 16:34:33 GMT -5
Please help me choose 5th bot since I just unlocked 5th slot. I have kept Leo for temporary. Currently in process of upgrading RDB to level 9 (weapons/bot). Once done I will need to work on 5th bot. I have a raijin but did not like due to slow speed. I have all lvl 8 plasma griffin but thinking it will not be able to compete in higher leagues. I also have doc (tulu) and I really enjoyed playing with it but thinking same as plasma griffin, its good for now but it may not help me in upper leagues. I also have natty (treb/gekko) but its sniper bot so not sure about it. I also have a couple stalkers but not a big fan of it. So should I get another carnage(trident) or another RDB Or just continue playing with LEO until I get another gold bot or dash bot (once available)? Please advice
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Jul 12, 2017 16:38:21 GMT -5
Leo is a solid Bot. Good mid-game brawler IMHO. I run the plasma/thunder variant right now but have run a pin/thunder before with good success. May want to start getting punishers/molots into your upgrade queue.
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Post by _psychø on Jul 12, 2017 16:55:13 GMT -5
Leo with pinatas is great even against ancile bot (don't forget to pop the shield first with thunder), but what I put in my 5th slot is a stalker, and found that it saved the whole team many times.
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Post by Jame-thon on Jul 12, 2017 16:57:05 GMT -5
With what you have and your comment that you are saving for the new dash bots, I personally would recommend using your Griffin plasma setup instead of the Leo. That or the stalker. Stalker is very viable in the upper leagues if you become a good stalker pilot they can be great for capping and support fighting. But if your preference and playstyle does not jive with the stalker, then by no means feel obligated to use it.
The leo is good in the lower to midrange leagues, but don't be mistaken, there are quite a bit of plasma griffins in the higher leagues. Not only that, but you'd be continuing to upgrade your tarans on it (which is a very good weapon to continue to upgrade) and the ability to jump is so much better. He works as a pop and hide bot or a finisher bot, since you have to get close, but can pack quite a bunch with the upgrade to plasma. You'll have to really understand how to move with cover, pick your battles and having patience in your movements to avoid snipers. I find that having (3) griffins in a hanger is not a terrible idea as you save for gold and nicer bots (which you mentioned you are planning). Maybe try mixing in the stalker or leo if you want to change it up. The leo is too slow for my liking and he works better as a long range if you want to extend his usage as you progress through leagues. You could try setting him up with treb/geckos or the new weapon + molots. I would stay away from having both your natasha and RDB in your lineup as your damage stats would go down and you wouldn't be helping out too much on capping. RDB is more ambidextrous and you can have a nice midrange bot while helping to cap if need be. Natasha's just too slow for it. It's a preference thing if you'd like to go with Natasha, but I think the previous buff to rockets and continuous fire of tulus/pins makes the RDB griff more useful to have in the lineup. Hope this helps and good luck.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Jul 12, 2017 18:13:43 GMT -5
Hmmn.... Couple thoughts - couple questions? - Leo is good performer in Gold, Thunder/Pin load out is fine - Hangar has all bases covered, Brawler/Mid-range/Beacon capper
Questions? - when you talk saving - what level are your respources (that gives you options) - When you say 2nd Carnage (Tridents), would you replace Leo? No I would not, possible swap with rdb, but rdb is still pretty good.
In Gold there is still a wide variey of useable bots.
One thing I have always done, is combine gaming quality(fun) vs. performance. I have always leveled to give myself variety & options. You could approach as base hangar (4) bots & rotate your 5th slot. Base hangar: 2× Griffin Galahad Leo Rotate in 5th slot, Carnage / Stalker / Rajin
For me, I always want to compete at my best, but if I get tired of playing.... that would be far worse. I would rather give up a little performance than get tired of running the same hangar and lose desire to play. I leveled my # of weapons to make them interchangeable with other bots: - Thunders/Tridents/Plasma/Orkans
Considerations: For me, while fun to play my 'Double Tap' (Thunder/Carnage). The performance is not consistent, I rotate the bot in. Galahad - w/ weapon buff, not sure of performance. Stalker - still learning & use on beacon / light tasks
I have a base hanger: Lancelot 10/11.7 Thunder/Taran Griffin 3x - Stuka 9/11.5, db 10/12, rdb 9/11 Fury - 9/11 Trident
I rotate: Carange L9 (Thunder or Trident) - put my L10 Ancile on Lancelot Plasmahad 10/11 - want more mobility Rhino L9 - heavy need for beacon capping (very little use) Light bots - Stalker / Gareth for light /beacon tasking
Hope that helps!
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Post by dilwale on Jul 13, 2017 8:17:36 GMT -5
The leo is good in the lower to midrange leagues, but don't be mistaken, there are quite a bit of plasma griffins in the higher leagues. Not only that, but you'd be continuing to upgrade your tarans on it (which is a very good weapon to continue to upgrade) and the ability to jump is so much better. He works as a pop and hide bot or a finisher bot, since you have to get close, but can pack quite a bunch with the upgrade to plasma. I will give it a try plasma griffin as Leo is little slower for me.
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Post by dilwale on Jul 13, 2017 8:33:59 GMT -5
Hmmn.... Questions? - when you talk saving - what level are your respources (that gives you options) - When you say 2nd Carnage (Tridents), would you replace Leo? No I would not, possible swap with rdb, but rdb is still pretty good. You could approach as base hangar (4) bots & rotate your 5th slot. Base hangar: 2× Griffin Galahad Leo Rotate in 5th slot, Carnage / Stalker / Rajin Questions? - when you talk saving - what level are your respources (that gives you options) - Well I just unlocked 5th slot so will get some time to get 5k gold. I have 13k WSP, 35m silver, since i dont use FB, no IP.- When you say 2nd Carnage (Tridents), would you replace Leo? - Yes. I find RDB more useful than Leo. No I would not, possible swap with rdb, but rdb is still pretty good. You could approach as base hangar (4) bots & rotate your 5th slot. Base hangar: 2× Griffin Galahad Leo Rotate in 5th slot, Carnage / Stalker / Rajin - Interesting idea. I will then keep 2x griffin, galahad & Carnage as base. Most prolly I will rotate leo/pasma griffin or may be stalker (I will learn how to pilot stalker). I get mixed performance from carnage. on open field I get little less but on closed filed where I can be close most times I get good performance. Leo is little slower to use but good once enemy is in your yard.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 13, 2017 8:40:04 GMT -5
The Leo will serve you Well for now. No carnage trident tho, it's an ungood selection. Zeus or thunders.
See what bots get released soon, save your resources for now, you're fine.
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Post by hyderier on Jul 13, 2017 9:05:08 GMT -5
As a side note, I'd switch focus away from the RDB. It just got much harder to actually hit with it. Maybe still ok, but give it some time to see if you really like the new mechanics, or if you'd rather switch to something else.
Anyway, keep the 5th slot for experimenting, don't commit to anything. Things are changing fast in this game. See what you win from the event and try it out. See what kills you in coming weeks. Almost any current advice is 50% chance of being bad advice in a month.
If you win Natasha from the event quests, note that it takes only 3 days to upgrade it from 6 to 9 (max speed, only 30kph but still) so not a big waste. A very useful step to eventually getting Fury (or deciding you don't ever want one), as it's a very good long/midrange bot (I run mine with Zeus and Geckos, but Tridents and Trebs are good non-Au options to start from).
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Post by dilwale on Jul 13, 2017 9:22:20 GMT -5
Thanks for good advice and input. I will only grow from this.
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Post by Jame-thon on Jul 13, 2017 9:54:09 GMT -5
The leo is good in the lower to midrange leagues, but don't be mistaken, there are quite a bit of plasma griffins in the higher leagues. Not only that, but you'd be continuing to upgrade your tarans on it (which is a very good weapon to continue to upgrade) and the ability to jump is so much better. He works as a pop and hide bot or a finisher bot, since you have to get close, but can pack quite a bunch with the upgrade to plasma. I will give it a try plasma griffin as Leo is little slower for me. Just remember that the Griffin isn't exactly a tank of a bot. With RDB you may be able to get away with things since the weapons have a farther range, but you've got to get a lot closer with the plasma griff to make use of the weapons. Don't feel the need to recklessly go after a beacon, work your way in. The upgrade to damage across several weapons has resulted in many players meching out a lot faster. Patience and pick your times are part of the battle. Few tactics include working your way using a teammate as a tank shield if they have a bot more suited for it and taking hits. Come in from sides as a flanker if the attention is on someone else. Get ahead in the beacon capture, make the enemies come your way and defend a spot with your plasma griff. Just a few of many strategies to maximize his usage and not being too exposed. Good luck.
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