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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 9:30:33 GMT -5
For some time I have been running a capping hangar,but now I want to equip a high damage bot. I was considering a thunder schutze or a Vityaz. Please don't recommend me any bot that goes less than 40 kmph. I ran a leo but it felt too slow,since the average speed of the rest of my bots is 58 kmph.
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Post by K A Z on Jun 28, 2017 9:35:05 GMT -5
If you have Au - Rog If you have WSP - Carnage If have Ag only - Boa does up to 42kmh.
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Post by Russel on Jun 28, 2017 9:35:41 GMT -5
For some time I have been running a capping hangar,but now I want to equip a high damage bot. I was considering a thunder schutze or a Vityaz. Please don't recommend me any bot that goes less than 40 kmph. I ran a leo but it felt too slow,since the average speed of the rest of my bots is 58 kmph. Hello Lynx! You might consider Jesse. I've been running 2xDoc + 3xJesse hangar in a iOS Gold2-1-Diamond3. I know that it's not exactly the same as Android, but mind you mine Jesse's were lvl4~6 with weapons lvl5~9 equipped. Springfield with commentary: It definitely works on the Moon: Of course the DeadCity: And also surprisingly good on Yamantau:
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 10:06:51 GMT -5
If you have Au - Rog If you have WSP - Carnage If have Ag only - Boa does up to 42kmh. This is my current hangar I want the bot to be lvl 9 by the time the event starts.Also have a lvl 7 fujin but the tulumbas on it are lvl 5 only.
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 10:08:37 GMT -5
For some time I have been running a capping hangar,but now I want to equip a high damage bot. I was considering a thunder schutze or a Vityaz. Please don't recommend me any bot that goes less than 40 kmph. I ran a leo but it felt too slow,since the average speed of the rest of my bots is 58 kmph. Hello Lynx! You might consider Jesse. I've been running 2xDoc + 3xJesse hangar in a iOS Gold2-1-Diamond3. I know that it's not exactly the same as Android, but mind you mine Jesse's were lvl4~6 with weapons lvl5~9 equipped. Uh..I don't have a Jesse or a doc.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jun 28, 2017 10:12:42 GMT -5
High damage light bot is a unicorn. Best you'll do is some rogatka variant. Edit: or, as Russel pointed out below, a carnage is an excellent choice.
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Post by Russel on Jun 28, 2017 10:18:31 GMT -5
Hello Lynx! You might consider Jesse. I've been running 2xDoc + 3xJesse hangar in a iOS Gold2-1-Diamond3. I know that it's not exactly the same as Android, but mind you mine Jesse's were lvl4~6 with weapons lvl5~9 equipped. Uh..I don't have a Jesse or a doc. If you are looking for a _budget_ bot - then get a Carnage, it's very good, but you need to learn to pilot it. Or Rhino is somewhat good, too. But a lot harder to pilot and you might like your Gal better.
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 10:24:14 GMT -5
Uh..I don't have a Jesse or a doc. If you are looking for a _budget_ bot - then get a Carnage, it's very good, but you need to learn to pilot it. Or Rhino is somewhat good, too. But a lot harder to pilot and you might like your Gal better. I have plenty of wsp ,and Ag.What I don't have is time before the event starts.My low damage gets me demoted pretty quickly if I lose a match. I was gold 2 in the morning and now I am gold 3. Also I hate losing the beacon gold due to slow bots, so wanted something with respectable speed(40 +) and damage
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 10:25:49 GMT -5
High damage light bot is a unicorn. Best you'll do is some rogatka variant. I don't necessarily want a light bot with high damage.I want a fast bot with high damage
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Post by Russel on Jun 28, 2017 10:28:12 GMT -5
If you are looking for a _budget_ bot - then get a Carnage, it's very good, but you need to learn to pilot it. Or Rhino is somewhat good, too. But a lot harder to pilot and you might like your Gal better. I have plenty of wsp ,and Ag.What I don't have is time before the event starts.My low damage gets me demoted pretty quickly if I lose a match. I was gold 2 in the morning and now I am gold 3. Also I hate losing the beacon gold due to slow bots, so wanted something with respectable speed(40 +) and damage You just need to be careful with a Carny, and not run into an enemy face. Attack from behind. More than that, you already got 1 Thunder upgraded from a Leo for Carnage. I would go with Thunder Carnage. Here's an example of what it can do singlehandedly (my other bots were killed by a snipers while trying to grab a farm\center beacon, dealing 50k damage the most):
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 10:40:29 GMT -5
I have plenty of wsp ,and Ag.What I don't have is time before the event starts.My low damage gets me demoted pretty quickly if I lose a match. I was gold 2 in the morning and now I am gold 3. Also I hate losing the beacon gold due to slow bots, so wanted something with respectable speed(40 +) and damage You just need to be careful with a Carny, and not run into an enemy face. Attack from behind. More than that, you already got 1 Thunder upgraded from a Leo for Carnage. I would go with Thunder Carnage. Here's an example of what it can do singlehandedly (my other bots were killed by a snipers while trying to grab a farm\center beacon, dealing 50k damage the most): I am interested in the Carnage,but it'll take 5-6 days to bring to lvl 9,so my weapons stay at the same level by the time the event starts. Also how long will the event last?If it lasts 15 days or more then I might actually be able to level up the Carnage and the thunders to lvl 9
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Jun 28, 2017 10:47:35 GMT -5
Well - how much wsp do you have? Thunder carnage is an excellent suggestion imo. Fast, high damage potential, considerably fast to level up. But you also might think of an Tulumbas/pin or plasma griffin. Yes - not exactly fast but the jump does really help.
also Orkans really help damage wise, but they need to be leveld to really shine. And you'll need a lot of resources..
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Post by drake1588 on Jun 28, 2017 10:48:01 GMT -5
High damage light bot is a unicorn. Best you'll do is some rogatka variant. That's exactly the conundrum. Orkan Rog Thunder Carnage That's pretty much it. Taran Rog is good as well, but the way you have to play the bot to keep it alive tends to drive the actual damage down despite the high potential damage.
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Post by Russel on Jun 28, 2017 10:50:01 GMT -5
You just need to be careful with a Carny, and not run into an enemy face. Attack from behind. More than that, you already got 1 Thunder upgraded from a Leo for Carnage. I would go with Thunder Carnage. Here's an example of what it can do singlehandedly (my other bots were killed by a snipers while trying to grab a farm\center beacon, dealing 50k damage the most): I am interested in the Carnage,but it'll take 5-6 days to bring to lvl 9,so my weapons stay at the same level by the time the event starts. Also how long will the event last?If it lasts 15 days or more then I might actually be able to level up the Carnage and the thunders to lvl 9 While you need 7days and 2hours to get to lvl9, I think you could start the event at lvl6 easily, it would take only 35 hours. The one in the picture above is exactly lvl6 Carnage with lvl9 Thunders. More than that, you got almost full week till the event. And yes, it would be pretty long event (judging by the previous ones), 15 days or so.
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Post by drake1588 on Jun 28, 2017 10:57:34 GMT -5
IMHO - The two tipping levels for Carnage are 7 and 9. At 7, he's at 38km speed, at 9 he's at his full 40. Thunder is usable by level 6 or 7 and just keeps getting better.
For gold 3, tier, at least. I ran a 7/7/5 thunder Carnage for a bit in gold 1 and while he was my worst bot, he was still very playable if I was choosy about where I was going and what I was targeting.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jun 28, 2017 11:01:28 GMT -5
High damage light bot is a unicorn. Best you'll do is some rogatka variant. That's exactly the conundrum. Orkan Rog Thunder Carnage That's pretty much it. Taran Rog is good as well, but the way you have to play the bot to keep it alive tends to drive the actual damage down despite the high potential damage. Keeping in mind neither option we present is an actual light robot, both are medium. These are just the nearest next best thing in the absence of an actual viable option. Edit: aaaand after reading the other post he quoted me, looking for fast, not necessarily light, the point of this post is invalid. Retracted.
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 11:03:04 GMT -5
I am interested in the Carnage,but it'll take 5-6 days to bring to lvl 9,so my weapons stay at the same level by the time the event starts. Also how long will the event last?If it lasts 15 days or more then I might actually be able to level up the Carnage and the thunders to lvl 9 While you need 7days and 2hours to get to lvl9, I think you could start the event at lvl6 easily, it would take only 35 hours. The one in the picture above is exactly lvl6 Carnage with lvl9 Thunders. More than that, you got almost full week till the event. And yes, it would be pretty long event (judging by the previous ones), 15 days or so. Also how is the boa?Carnage shield seems too weak with low regeneration rate?
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jun 28, 2017 11:07:12 GMT -5
While you need 7days and 2hours to get to lvl9, I think you could start the event at lvl6 easily, it would take only 35 hours. The one in the picture above is exactly lvl6 Carnage with lvl9 Thunders. More than that, you got almost full week till the event. And yes, it would be pretty long event (judging by the previous ones), 15 days or so. Also how is the boa?Carnage shield seems too weak with low regeneration rate? Carnage is One of the better choices currently. Certainly a better option than the boa, if carnage is available to you. Edited for clarity.
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 11:13:28 GMT -5
Also how is the boa?Carnage shield seems too weak with low regeneration rate? One of the better choices currently. Certainly a better option than the boa, if carnage is available to you. Will I be able to get good damage in my tulu fujin?Fujin is at lvl 7 and tuls at 5.If I start upgrading them now will I be able to average 400k damage?
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Post by Russel on Jun 28, 2017 11:21:02 GMT -5
One of the better choices currently. Certainly a better option than the boa, if carnage is available to you. Will I be able to get good damage in my tulu fujin?Fujin is at lvl 7 and tuls at 5.If I start upgrading them now will I be able to average 400k damage? I believe you won't average 400K damage with 4 slot hangar in the league you in. The further you go - the more Ancile+Shield will be. And damage dealt to Ancile\Shield is not accounted for.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jun 28, 2017 11:25:17 GMT -5
One of the better choices currently. Certainly a better option than the boa, if carnage is available to you. Will I be able to get good damage in my tulu fujin?Fujin is at lvl 7 and tuls at 5.If I start upgrading them now will I be able to average 400k damage? Too many variables to say unequivocally yes or no. Are you any good? ? What league are you in? How much plasma are you facing? Can you hit the broad side of a barn? ? How long do you want your silver/upgrade times to last as a function of longevity? I.e., how long do you want it to be viable? Fujiin equity burns out fast as you progress in leagues. I'd never recommend a fujiin, but if it's what you have, run it. At the very least you'll learn a thing or 2. But if you have the resources, I'd say grab a Griffin and run an rdb. More versatile and flexible bot on all fronts, and it will serve you well in any league you're in. For example, I run 3 Lancelots of various flavors. It's what I have, so I use them, and i dont have anything else suitable to change into in the league i run in, but I'd never recommend doing so to anyone else. Same logic applies here. Run it if you have it, just be aware of its limitations and plan your battles accordingly and you'll be ok, but if you have better options, don't waste your resources, you'll need them sooner rather than later.
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Post by Russel on Jun 28, 2017 11:43:58 GMT -5
Can you hit the broad side of a barn? ? Is this a running joke? I haven't heard that one before.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jun 28, 2017 12:09:43 GMT -5
Can you hit the broad side of a barn? ? Is this a running joke? I haven't heard that one before. Old saying, very old.
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 12:28:47 GMT -5
Will I be able to get good damage in my tulu fujin?Fujin is at lvl 7 and tuls at 5.If I start upgrading them now will I be able to average 400k damage? Too many variables to say unequivocally yes or no. Are you any good? ? What league are you in? How much plasma are you facing? Can you hit the broad side of a barn? ? How long do you want your silver/upgrade times to last as a function of longevity? I.e., how long do you want it to be viable? Fujiin equity burns out fast as you progress in leagues. I'd never recommend a fujiin, but if it's what you have, run it. At the very least you'll learn a thing or 2. But if you have the resources, I'd say grab a Griffin and run an rdb. More versatile and flexible bot on all fronts, and it will serve you well in any league you're in. For example, I run 3 Lancelots of various flavors. It's what I have, so I use them, and i dont have anything else suitable to change into in the league i run in, but I'd never recommend doing so to anyone else. Same logic applies here. Run it if you have it, just be aware of its limitations and plan your battles accordingly and you'll be ok, but if you have better options, don't waste your resources, you'll need them sooner rather than later. I used to run an rdb griffin.But got bored to death of using it.Natty was OK as a sniper but too slow,same with leo. I am willing to upgrade vityaz/golem but only if I'm sure of it being a viable build. I don't run slow builds because I've lost a lot of matches due to not being able to reach a beacon on time. Tried using heavy bots today,but the same thing happened,so reverted to the fujin. Also most of my matches involve me sneaking to the enemy spawn and capping beacons, so bots that can't go fast enough are useless for me. After trying different builds all day,I am considering upgrading my event T-Rex stalker. But didn't want to run 2 of the same bots at a time so asked for recommendations.
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 12:38:43 GMT -5
This is my current hangar I want the bot to be lvl 9 by the time the event starts.Also have a lvl 7 fujin but the tulumbas on it are lvl 5 only. So you want Schutze or Vityaz but already have Rogatka, Galahad and Stalker? Are you serious??? Your hangar is not optimized, the weapon configurations are a mess. What other weapons do you have? Ditch the Gekko from the Leo and use only with Pinatas. Or 2 Pinatas and 1 Aphid Use the Rogatka with Tarans. Use Fujin with 3 Tulumbas from the Rog On Galahad if you can afford Orkan+Pinatas or if you can get 2 more Magnums + Taran. These are the recommended weapon configs that work on the bots you have. Jesse is not that good bot. Doc is better with Tulumbas but they need to be leveled so it's better to play with RDB Griffin or Tulu Fujin. Only Butch with Trebs can be viable because it can deal more damage per second than Fury with Trebs and it's faster. My style of play is capturing beacons and defending them. But I use cheap Griffins. My only premium weapon are the 2 Orkans I tried the rogatka with tarans on the test server,but it turned out to be too squishy.I don't have any orkans. The gal is in its particular configuration because it allows me to deal with both energy and physical shields I have only upgraded one Magnum to lvl8, the other is not upgraded. I already have tulumbas for the fujin. The mess in the Leo's configuration is due to combining all my high level weapons into the Leo.
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Post by Russel on Jun 28, 2017 12:42:32 GMT -5
Too many variables to say unequivocally yes or no. Are you any good? ? What league are you in? How much plasma are you facing? Can you hit the broad side of a barn? ? How long do you want your silver/upgrade times to last as a function of longevity? I.e., how long do you want it to be viable? Fujiin equity burns out fast as you progress in leagues. I'd never recommend a fujiin, but if it's what you have, run it. At the very least you'll learn a thing or 2. But if you have the resources, I'd say grab a Griffin and run an rdb. More versatile and flexible bot on all fronts, and it will serve you well in any league you're in. For example, I run 3 Lancelots of various flavors. It's what I have, so I use them, and i dont have anything else suitable to change into in the league i run in, but I'd never recommend doing so to anyone else. Same logic applies here. Run it if you have it, just be aware of its limitations and plan your battles accordingly and you'll be ok, but if you have better options, don't waste your resources, you'll need them sooner rather than later. I used to run an rdb griffin.But got bored to death of using it.Natty was OK as a sniper but too slow,same with leo. I am willing to upgrade vityaz/golem but only if I'm sure of it being a viable build. I don't run slow builds because I've lost a lot of matches due to not being able to reach a beacon on time. Tried using heavy bots today,but the same thing happened,so reverted to the fujin. Also most of my matches involve me sneaking to the enemy spawn and capping beacons, so bots that can't go fast enough are useless for me. After trying different builds all day,I am considering upgrading my event T-Rex stalker. But didn't want to run 2 of the same bots at a time so asked for recommendations. Sneaking to enemy base would be harder and harder as you move up the leagues, do not get any bot just for this task. I was facing same problem as you, don't like slow bots. Replaced them with faster ones, now slowest one runs (at least with use of abilities) around 45~48 rm/h. Weapons are lvl8-9, for the most part (two Tulumbas are 7)
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 12:52:47 GMT -5
I used to run an rdb griffin.But got bored to death of using it.Natty was OK as a sniper but too slow,same with leo. I am willing to upgrade vityaz/golem but only if I'm sure of it being a viable build. I don't run slow builds because I've lost a lot of matches due to not being able to reach a beacon on time. Tried using heavy bots today,but the same thing happened,so reverted to the fujin. Also most of my matches involve me sneaking to the enemy spawn and capping beacons, so bots that can't go fast enough are useless for me. After trying different builds all day,I am considering upgrading my event T-Rex stalker. But didn't want to run 2 of the same bots at a time so asked for recommendations. Sneaking to enemy base would be harder and harder as you move up the leagues, do not get any bot just for this task. I was facing same problem as you, don't like slow bots. Replaced them with faster ones, now slowest one runs (at least with use of abilities) around 45~48 rm/h. Weapons are lvl8-9, for the most part (two Tulumbas are 7) Well, while I can trust my random teammates to shoot other robots,I can't rely on them to cap beacons other than the home beacon. Even if I can't cap the enemy spawn beacon,I draw off atleast 2-3 reds,which contributes immensely towards the win. Also infiltrating the red's base gives me a high.
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Post by Russel on Jun 28, 2017 12:57:11 GMT -5
Sneaking to enemy base would be harder and harder as you move up the leagues, do not get any bot just for this task. I was facing same problem as you, don't like slow bots. Replaced them with faster ones, now slowest one runs (at least with use of abilities) around 45~48 rm/h. Weapons are lvl8-9, for the most part (two Tulumbas are 7) Well, while I can trust my random teammates to shoot other robots,I can't rely on them to cap beacons other than the home beacon. Even if I can't cap the enemy spawn beacon,I draw off atleast 2-3 reds,which contributes immensely towards the win. Also infiltrating the red's base gives me a high. I am not telling that it's bad thing to do, I am telling that you won't be able to when you move higher. And Carnage (FASTEST bot in a rush - faster than a Stalker) + Rogatka (60 km/h PLUS jump ability) provides enough possibilities for beacon capping.
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Post by Lynx on Jun 28, 2017 13:00:28 GMT -5
I tried the rogatka with tarans on the test server,but it turned out to be too squishy.I don't have any orkans. The gal is in its particular configuration because it allows me to deal with both energy and physical shields I have only upgraded one Magnum to lvl8, the other is not upgraded. I already have tulumbas for the fujin. The mess in the Leo's configuration is due to combining all my high level weapons into the Leo. Upgrade your other Magnums then and put them on the Galahad for 2 Mags it would take 6 days to upgrade them to level 8. Level 9 Rog with Tarans is not that squishy if you can pilot it right. Leo in my opinion is better with Pinatas or Magnums. But still they call it "Bag of silver" in higher leagues. So I might use Griffin on his place if I was you. No.The Gal stays in the current combination.I use it to hunt brit bots and rhinos,and can survive carnages too. Turning it into pure plasma or pure splash would make it squishy. I might follow your suggestion with the Rog,the tuls are not damaging enough
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Post by vigusfatbelly on Jun 28, 2017 14:27:54 GMT -5
There are some old tried and true methods. an AphidGep does a good amount of damage and is also speedy. A PlasmaGary will also do a good amount of damage, if piloted correctly and is the most durable light bot. ThundarCarnage is an absolute bot killer. Learn to pilot it and use it to decimate other bots. As anecdotal evidence...my current typical hanger loadout when squadding is aphidgep-8/8 Plasma Gary-8/8 Thunder Carny- 8/10 zeussCarny- 8/8
I'm in gold1/diamondIII typically, and I average 450K to 600K in damage per match. You can swap the zeussCarny out with a Gunboat Griffen and get slightly better results if you want to give up one team play bot for a pure assault bot.
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